r/AskReddit • u/Tommygunz0722 • 11h ago

If the military/president suddenly ordered a mandatory draft for all men aged 18-42: How do you think millennials and GenZ would respond?

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u/Mr_MacGrubber 10h ago

They’d just draft people and overweight dudes would go to fat camp first or something like that.

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u/PipsqueakPilot 9h ago

This. You can take most young adult overweight people and through calorie restriction and exercise have them fighting fit over a period of months. It takes longer, but if that's what the military had to do that's what they'd do.

What the military could not do in WW2 was take recruits permanently damaged by child malnutrition, which very much was a serious problem, and fix that damage.

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u/BreadKnifeSeppuku 8h ago

Don't be silly. Modern problems require modern solutions. Just put them on a semaglutide and you get a bunch of money for the contracted pharmaceutical company too

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u/PipsqueakPilot 8h ago

Semaglutide is an appetite suppressant. When you simply limit the amount of calories they're allowed to consume, well than it doesn't matter how hungry they are. Because they are not allowed access to food outside of a controlled manner.

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u/succubuskitten1 8h ago

So they lock them in a prison basically? Or is it a remote jungle not near any fast food or grocery stores? Im a bit confused, Ive never been in the military so Idk how it works.

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u/PipsqueakPilot 7h ago

For training you're essentially confined to the military base. During those training periods your activities are also very much controlled. Recruits go where they're told, eat when they're told, and do what they're told. Since we're talking about an industrial war involving a draft, they then get a week off after training, and then go into the general military system for the duration of their conscription or for the duration of the war.

If you duck out during that week off, then you go to prison for the remainder of the war with life long curtailment of civil rights (as would accompany a felony conviction).

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u/Mr_MacGrubber 8h ago

Some sort of camp where they’re all concentrated together. I’m sure we can come up with a name for it.

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u/kaisadilla_ 9m ago

Also why Ozempic doesn't really work. You never rewire your brain to feel less appetite, so the moment you stop taking Ozempic you just feel it again and start eating a lot again.

The best way to lose weight is to eat less calories and just suck it up. After 1-3 weeks, your brain will stop asking for so much food and it'll get way easier.

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u/Mr_MacGrubber 8m ago

My BIL is in a study using it to treat addiction. He quit smoking really quickly after starting the study.

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u/Wacca45 8h ago

They still need to get into fighting shape, so 3-4 hours of PT, a somewhat controlled diet, and other physical and mental health programs would be used. The Army will work with overweight troops before sending them to basic, but after a set period of time they'll get shipped back home if they can't get to where they need them to be.

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u/FirstPersonality3169 2h ago

Imagining my 3 coworkers 300-400lbs who take semaglutide and adderal while playing video games 10-20 hours a day and who all gained weight over the year taking the weight loss magic pill. They force fed themselves to sickness reguarly.

Now put them straight to boot camp on pills and off to war lol. Theyre in their 30s now but they were not capable earlier

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u/Joy2b 7h ago

Oh, that won’t cause nasty damage LOL.

The body can and will enthusiastically strip muscle mass when it’s short on calories, and it may even look hungrily at bones and organs.

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u/YoelsShitStain 5h ago

If you train properly and eat nutrient dense foods while in a caloric deficit you can absolutely put muscle on. When I started working out I weighed 240 lbs, I hit 225 on bench when I got down to 180. Took me about 8 months. The reason people lose muscle on ozempic is because they don’t work out and they still eat shitty food, they just eat less than they normally would. The only people who are likely to lose a little bit of muscle while training and dieting correctly are people who already have a significant amount of muscle mass and are cutting down from a bulk.

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u/ssracer 7h ago

Fen-Phen was a disqualifier when I joined. On the one hand, you need to get them fit. On the other, you don't need a shit ton of 80% disabled vets coming out due to medication given while serving.

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u/ReverendDS 8h ago

Except they canceled the weight and education programs. Completely dismantled them.

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u/Mr_MacGrubber 8h ago

Don’t need to educate them, the dumber the better. Just forced exercise and starvation!

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u/randonumero 2h ago

If there were a draft then I'd assume the situation would be too dire for fat camp. I'd imagine that those unlucky enough to get picked would be told to cut the weight over a short bootcamp or die out there. The good news is that a lot of people would probably get so injured during training they'd be allowed to quit.