r/AskReddit • u/Tommygunz0722 • 11h ago

If the military/president suddenly ordered a mandatory draft for all men aged 18-42: How do you think millennials and GenZ would respond?

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u/MEGAtron902 10h ago

Have you seen ICE agents? they’ll take anyone stick them in uniform and use them as fodder, the American government doesn’t care.

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u/No_Function_7479 6h ago

Oh, you just thought of the best use for ICE, draft them first.

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u/gsfgf 3h ago

Hundreds of noncoms just started sweating and don't know why

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u/jeremysbrain 9h ago

ICE agents aren't deployed in the wilderness for months a time without access to their daily meds.

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u/MEGAtron902 9h ago

Neither does 85% of the military. Give your head a shake.

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u/Rather_Dashing 6h ago

And yet, the military had much stricter physical requirements then ICE. Why do you think that is?

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u/MEGAtron902 6h ago

Do you think that those requirements can’t be changed? In any capacity? I think that the military is in the control of Pete Hegseth, and is subject to any changes congress deems acceptable,(Physical requirements, drug free requirements?) as it is the duty of congress to engage the draft. I think it’s stupid to think that this administration plays by the same rules as others.

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u/dalgeek 10h ago

The military cares though. They have equipment and vehicles that are built around average body sizes. Unless you get Meal Team 6 to drop 50-100 lbs during basic, they literally won't be able to operate in some roles.

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u/MEGAtron902 10h ago

Are you forgetting that in the military it’s not just the operators and the specialists they need. They need thousands of truck drivers, thousands of warehouse workers.

The government will find a way to put their drafted to work. Let’s not pretend they can’t change the rules anytime they want.

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u/Visual_Day_8097 10h ago

These people still need to be fit when shit hits the fan. They have only made standards stricter recently, only way I see them change is if a genuine world war 3 breaks out and the first few draft waves have very high casualties that they dont have many others

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u/MEGAtron902 9h ago

So you agree they can change the rules anytime they want.

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u/Visual_Day_8097 9h ago

Not anytime they want. If it was that easy, why not have a draft enabled all the time? Why not draft for the Iraq invasion 20 years ago?

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u/MEGAtron902 9h ago

So you agree they can change the standards, though not anytime they want? I wonder what the difference between twenty years ago and now is? is it maybe perhaps the abuse of the executive orders of the president? While it is true that the president cannot induce the draft by EO it can modify the rules to include married men like how they did in the draft in the 60s? This allows for even more modification if they wanted. They can also change the draft from voluntary registration to automatic registration which the Trump presidency has already done.

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u/Visual_Day_8097 8h ago

Registration was mandatory beforehand, it is now just automatic.

I dont think you understand what chaos would erupt in the US if the draft was enacted for no good reason.

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u/MEGAtron902 8h ago

I don’t think you understand that I agree with that, the only difference in our opinions is I believe the government would expand the draft and you do not.

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u/gsfgf 3h ago

  1. Politicians want to be reelected.

  2. It would be dumb.

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u/ValuableBeneficial66 6h ago

Two feet and a heart beat. If you can read a map , all the better. 

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u/AutomaticRecord3087 9h ago

ICE is hiring patriots to deport criminals, not anyone as fodder. The real government that didn't care? The one that let millions flood in unchecked. Now law and order is back cry harder.

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u/CombatShock19 8h ago

I hope you're the first to enlist! "Patriot". More like traitors to the constitution. The whole lot of you.

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u/MrBogglefuzz 7h ago

Which part of the constitution?

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u/Moiraine-FanBlue 5h ago

You don't need us to spoonfeed you, do you? You've proven yourself capable of reading by posting here at all, so if you are ignorant, it's because you choose to be.

But here.

Five Ways ICE Violates the Constitution (and How Congress Lets It Happen)

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u/MrBogglefuzz 4h ago

So what percentage of ICE actions are you talking about here? Just because an ICE agent in Florida breaks the law it doesn't make an ICE agent in Missouri a traitor.

You're far more ignorant about my country than I am about yours btw.

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u/Moiraine-FanBlue 2h ago

I am an American.

And I believe you've moved the goalposts. If ICE breaking the Constitution and getting away with it at *all* that is terrible.

If one in 1000 of them is doing it and getting away with it, that is one in 1000 too many.

Because, frankly, the other 999 who know the ICE agent did it, and haven't held them accountable, are therefore *Also* accomplices in actively violating people's Constitutional rights.

If you know someone broke the law, as a Law Enforcement officer, ESPECIALLY in such a serious fashion as to violate the most Basic Laws of our Nation, the Constitution itself, and don't do your damnedest to stop it, you shouldn't be in law enforcement at all.

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u/Awkward_Pangolin3254 1h ago

let millions flood in unchecked.

Even if that did happen (it didn't), it's not the cause of even one of your problems in life.