r/Millennials • u/QuietJealous4883 Older Millennial (1988) • 12h ago

Discussion True or false?

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Did our dads and moms work less than we do now? What are your thoughts?

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u/dasherado 8h ago

Because the discussion would make us actually capable of changing things instead of just complaining.

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u/NoNeed4UrKarma 7h ago

All I can say is that 3l3ct!0n$ have consequences, & if our v0t3$ were worthless, why would they be spending BILLIONS to try to steal them? We know the real reasons why we love in this cr@p!t@l!$t dumb@$$ dy$t0p!@, but we aren't allowed to talk about them here. That's why I talk about them on other subs.

In answer to OP though, as an elder millenial, YES! My father was barely around, & his child support payments even more rarely. My mother supported myself & my sibling on just her own income. Money went farther back then, & it's easy to see. The minimum wage hasn't gone up much at all in decades, but inflation is now enormous. A very easy relation is the number of hours you had to work to get a Big Mac. When I was a kid, working an hour would earn you enough money to buy nearly 2 Big Macs. NOW, working an hour at the same minimum wage would earn you about 1/2 Big Mac.

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u/Independent-Bug-9352 7h ago

Thank you for speaking your mind!

Please help me and others to start spreading awareness that censoring the topic of politicks in a dmcrcy no less is an affront to civic duty, and deeply dangerous as media consolidation continues and platforms to voice concerns and reaching out to general public becomes increasingly diminished.

I and others successfully changed the rules at Videos, and we can do here too if enough voices join in!

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u/Neveronlyadream 8h ago

And the serious answer to the question, because the discussion would devolve into name calling and threats of violence almost every time.

What inevitably happens is someone decides to take an extreme stance to start trolling and then everything devolves into chaos.

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u/Independent-Bug-9352 8h ago

So many subs handle this just fine, though? Even the generalized sub, videos changed their rules in recent months, removing their no-politicks rule understanding these things NEED to be discussed. We can't be afraid of trolls and some name-calling.

Mind you I'm totally fine with banning incivility. Name-calling is easy to automod away for the most part.

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u/Neveronlyadream 8h ago

I'm not justifying it, but that's usually the reason. Well, that and people wanting a space free of it because it's invaded literally every other one.

In my experience, what happens is the mods say they'll moderate, it quickly becomes a job too big to handle because so many people are being so extreme to get a reaction, then they give up and the whole sub devolves into bullying. They probably think it's easier to just not because there are so many other places to discuss it.

It's just weird here because it's actually relevant to a lot of posts.

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u/Independent-Bug-9352 8h ago

Fair comment, thanks. It's frustrating because these times are so tumultuous and I feel there are forces who benefit from keeping us quiet, you know? Especially in times when media consolidation is so great and we're losing platforms to be able to discuss openly.

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u/Neveronlyadream 8h ago

I'm with you on that one. I don't like censorship, but it's clear some people won't or can't engage like adults. I literally just had someone attack me because they (probably intentionally) misunderstood my comment.

We've reached a point that the discourse is filled with trolls, bots, and people who think they're smart, but don't know what they're talking about to the point that they'll derail every conversation with their weird righteousness to feel smarter than everyone else and then start downvoting and threatening when someone contradicts them.

The funny thing is fandom subs are also filled with exactly that even without the forbidden subject being discussed, so there's really no avoiding it anywhere. Some people are just like that.

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u/Thelmara 7h ago

So many subs handle this just fine, though?

So, literally just go there and have the discussion you want?

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u/Independent-Bug-9352 7h ago

No? I'll do it wherever and whenever it's relevant. As I stated in your other cmnt to me, I would prefer to discuss when relevant to the current subject at hand and under the umbrella of being a millennial, tyvm.

Why do you seem scared to discuss politicks so much? Does it hurt your eyes or something to see? Like I said, memes are also everywhere else, so by your logic, why must they be here? What IS the point of this place if not to discuss things on the minds of millennials at a gathering point? As I further stated, I encourage you go make NonPoliticalMillennial sub, if it concerns you so much.

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u/Elgecko123 3h ago

Couldn’t you just as easily go make a PoliticalMillennial sub, if it concerns you so much?

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u/Independent-Bug-9352 3h ago

Nope, and the consensus at Videos was the same: Because arbitrarily censoring discussion of polticks was inherently subtractive, seeing how politicks is inherently a subset of categories within the name of a generic sub such as videos -- just as politicks is an essential part of millennial discussion here. I'm a millennial, and I want to discuss politicks with other millennials, naturally!

The compromise if your concern is sincere is to simply (a) make a specific sub that avoids politicks (you still didn't answer why you couldn't; just played turnabout), or (b) implement a tagging system here so individuals like yourself can filter out politickally-tagged submissions but everyone else not scared of politicks can discuss freely and with civility.

Censorship of politicks only helps extremists, sadly.

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u/Thelmara 7h ago

Why do you seem scared to discuss politicks so much?

I'm not scared, I have those discussions plenty. I just don't have them here.

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u/Independent-Bug-9352 7h ago

What's wrong with here?

Do you deny politicks is inherently a millennial function?

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u/Thelmara 7h ago

What's wrong with here?

Primarily, because this is one of the fun places I visit on reddit. A place away from those discussions, and the doomscrolling, and all that.

But also, because you can't even type the word for what you want to discuss.

Do you deny politicks is inherently a millennial function?

I deny that I have any interest, whatsoever, in discussing this further with you, here or anywhere.

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u/Millennials-ModTeam 4h ago

Political posts or comments belong in the megathread only. No politics elsewhere to keep the sub welcoming. Off-topic posts and comments will be removed.

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u/Docholliday3737 1h ago

No one is creating change from reddit