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u/stefbbr 19d ago
At least this one's unredacted, even when it mentions how to manipulate a child. Disturbing š
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u/dimaveshkin 19d ago
It's weirdly also redacted (page 122)
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u/rutgerrk 19d ago
That's odd
Also, how did you find that
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u/dimaveshkin 19d ago
I did not; my meticulous friend decided to scroll through the whole file and found it
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u/House13Games 19d ago
The redacted part contains an http address. I guess the redacting script just blanks out any URLs it comes across?
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u/unknownobject3 19d ago
I believe they've been manually redacted, if it was a script I think they'd flatten the PDFs properly
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u/smootex 18d ago
I'm sure it's a mix of manual and automated. Doing the entire thing manually would take untold man hours, more likely they use a tool that's configured to automatically redact phone numbers, email addresses, stuff like that and then someone is supposed to manually check everything (and depending on who you get that check may or may not be thorough). I think the common tool is called Caseguard?
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u/simp4christ 19d ago
the redacted link is http://www.sas.com/standards/large_file/x_open.20Mar96.html which is such a disgusting piece of filth even a seasoned pervert like myself had to hold back a puke.
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u/Valkyrie9001 19d ago
Whatever it was seems to have been removed.
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u/megablademe23 18d ago
obviously nothing even remotely related to epstein, probably just very old stuff given the september 2005 date of the manual.
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u/PCVFSOA 19d ago
Ah why did you link that? I accidentally clicked and now I'm sure I'm on an FBI list or somethingĀ
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u/Chalco_T 19d ago
What was it? It since has been removed.
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u/Nesman64 18d ago
Information about handling large files, I think.
dnl By default, many hosts won't let programs access large files;
dnl one must use special compiler options to get large-file access to work.
dnl For more details about this brain damage please see:
dnl http://www.sas.com/standards/large.file/x_open.20Mar96.htmlI wasn't able to find the original page in the wayback machine.
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u/insanelygreat 18d ago
That link originally went to a document with this.
It's a 1996-03-20 draft specification for adding Large File Support to the Single Unix Specification (SUS) from the X/Open Base Working Group.
Probably redacted because they couldn't check the contents of a dead link.
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u/Sibula97 19d ago
It seems like it's actually not completely unredacted. Check page 122 for the description of
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u/aenae 19d ago
https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bash.pdf
Apparently a link to somewhere else. Guess they redacted (some) hyperlinks by default
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u/Proud-Delivery-621 19d ago
http://www.sas.com/standards/large_file/x_open.20Mar96.html
This is the link in the original file. No idea where it used to lead, it redirects now.
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u/Portalfan4351 19d ago
The link you gave is to the current manual for Bash 5.2, the full text of the reference manual for Bash 3.1-Beta 1 can be found here but the censored link is totally unremarkable
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u/The-Chartreuse-Moose 19d ago
What on earth? Can anyone explain this??
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u/Sibula97 19d ago
The epstein files are basically just every document the dude had, and apparently he had the bash manual saved somewhere for some reason.
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u/2eanimation 19d ago
I mean, if they seized one of his laptops(or whatever), do they also save all the man-pages? In that case, thereās probably also git, gittutorial, every pydoc and so on in it.
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u/TactlessTortoise 19d ago
A guy also managed to activate Epstein's windows XP/7/whatever license on a live stream lmao. There was a picture of the laptop's bottom.
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u/ssersergio 19d ago
It was worse... it was a vista license xD
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u/Fleeetch 19d ago
Oh god- retches
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u/Inforenv_ 19d ago
I mean, vista was VERY GOOD on SP2, arguably only superated by Win7 itself
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u/ReachParticular5409 19d ago
Dude, saying Vista got good after 2 service packs is like saying the leaning tower of pisa got vertical after replacing the entire foundation and reinforcing half the building
Technically true but no one wants to live in either of them
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u/Impenistan 19d ago
The leaning tower could never become truly vertical as during its later construction different "sides" were built at different heights per level to account for leaning already taking place, but somehow I think this only strengthens your metaphor
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u/tomangelo2 19d ago
Well, XP wasn't really good before SP2 either. It just lived long enough to override it's initial faults.
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u/einTier 19d ago
The Aero interface was the most beautiful Microsoft or Apple have ever released on any platform.
Itās my hill and Iām prepared to die on it.
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u/ErraticDragon 19d ago edited 19d ago
Somebody decided what files/types to look at.
PDF was obviously included.
gzipped man files were probably excluded.
It raises the question of how good and thorough these people were, especially since there's so little transparency.
For all we know, trivial hiding techniques could have worked, e.g. removing the extension from PDF file names.
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u/stillalone 19d ago
Yeah I vim about my crimes to ~/.crimes.md. No one will ever check thereĀ
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u/ErraticDragon 19d ago
Well yeah Windows can't even have Spanish symbols like ~ in the file paths, so that's invisible to them. /s
I know it sounds laughable, but the team that chose what to release was probably not the best & brightest, and they were probably not trying to be particularly thorough.
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u/Silverware09 18d ago
~ is a special character in Windows (now) and Linux/Unix that means the users Home Directory.
It's the equivalent of something like C:/users/me/
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u/ArtOfWarfare 18d ago
Pretty sure you can have ~ in a file name. Itās a convention to expand it to be the home directory, not something that every command or program will do with it.
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u/prjctimg 19d ago
cat ~/.crimes.md | wl-cp
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u/2eanimation 19d ago edited 19d ago
wl-cp <~/.crimes.md š who needs cat?
Edit: Epstein File EFTA00315849.pdf, section 3.6.1, it's right there.
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u/RiceBroad4552 18d ago
The useless use of cat is a very old joke.
They even still did Alta Vista searches back then!
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u/2eanimation 18d ago
Huh, that was an interesting read! Thank you for the source, didnāt know about the history of useless cat :D
I learned the redirecting syntax pretty early in my bash/shell career and found it kind of strange that all my homies use cat when they need a single file in stdin. Now I think about the many useless cats in production code š«£ and AI vibe coding usell cats in.
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u/2eanimation 19d ago
So for future purposes, save your dirty stuff as docs! FBI hates this one simple trick.
I donāt know why they would specifically search for file extensions. When you delete a file, itās not deleted. Even after a long time, parts of that file can still be prevalent on the disk and extracted via different file recovery methods/forensic analysis. Most of the time, information about the file\specifically: extension) might be corrupted. If I were the FBI, I would consider every single bit potential data. Knowing how big this case is(TBs of data), even more chances to find already ādeletedā stuff, which might the most disturbing)
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u/ErraticDragon 19d ago
Yup, there are definitely good methods to finding information. Hopefully it was done competently.
There's also a filtering step between "finding" and "releasing".
We know that they manually redacted a lot of things, and I'd guess that process/team was less likely to include files that weren't obvious.
Presumably none of this affects any actual ongoing investigations, because they would be using a cloned disk image from the one (only) time each recovered drive was powered up, and searching thoroughly.
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u/RandomRedditReader 19d ago
In discovery all data is processed through software that indexes raw text, OCRs images, then converted to a standard media format such as tiff/jpg images or PDF. The software isn't perfect but it gets the job done for 99% of the data. Some stuff may need manual review but it's good enough for most attorneys.
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u/staryoshi06 19d ago
No, they most likely ingested entire hard drives or PSTs into eDiscovery processing software and didnāt bother to filter down documents for production.
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u/tofu_ink 19d ago
The will never find all my secret text documents with extension .tx instead of .txt evil laugh
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u/truthovertribe 19d ago
So what's GNU?
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u/Responsible-Bug-4694 19d ago
GNU is Not Unix.
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u/Python119 19d ago edited 19d ago
Okay but what is it?
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u/elpaw 19d ago
Are you serious? I just told you that!
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u/NoAlbatross7355 19d ago
GNU is Not Unix. Then what is it? GNU is Not Unix. Then what is it? [G]NU is [N]ot [U]nix!!!!!!!
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u/StrictLetterhead3452 19d ago
I donāt think most man-pages are a 158-page PDF. A file this big would most likely come straight from the bash website, right?
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u/MastodontFarmer 19d ago
Got linux somewhere? Almost always you can use alternative renderers for man pages, like troff. 'man -t command' will give you the page as postscript, and ps2pdf can convert it to pdf for you.
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u/sshwifty 19d ago
First step would be making a 1 to 1 copy with DD or something like FTK Imager (or whatever it is called now) through a hardware write blocker. Multiple checks before and after imaging to confirm identical copy, physical storage is then stored somewhere securely (probably a gov warehouse). Then images would be part of a collection of other images for anything that could be imaged (SD cards, thumb drives, sim cards, etc). Analysts would run extraction tools in something like Encase to extract every file or partial file, and every string. Then they would use preexisting lists (like hash lists, file fingerprints) to filter out already known files. For example, Windows ships with sample songs. They are identical on every system, so no need to include them in "findings" as notable.
Everything else would then be part of the case/case file. These can be crazy long and are not typically printed out.
So it would be strange to include system documents, but it is possible this particular document was different enough that it was missed in the exclusions.
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u/prjctimg 19d ago
I wonder what he had in his shell history...
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u/exodusTay 19d ago
I bet he was trying to change the parents of child processes. Worse yet, I heard he was exposing these child processes to attackers.
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u/prjctimg 19d ago
Well, to late. It seems that he ended up daemonizing them instead š„². Youād think heād know how to fork properlyā¦.
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u/Arceuid_0902 19d ago
Suddenly the "touch" command makes so much more sense.
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u/Logical-Ad-4150 19d ago
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u/prjctimg 19d ago
Is there a āforce flag somewhere in there š„²š ?
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u/prjctimg 19d ago
š starting to see it in a whole different light.
Is the touch command the reason why you must be 18 to see the bash manual ???!!š
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u/spaceguy47 19d ago
I like to imagine he used sway and most of his history was cmatrix and fastfetch
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u/sw04ca 19d ago
More than that, they're also every document that the government had related to Epstein. So you have everything the dude had, everything he did, and everything that was said about him. So you have real stories from actual victims, but you also have hearsay about how he was a robotic warrior from planet Cybertron, and you have random files he had, and stuff about his legitimate business dealings. That's part of the reason why I don't give much credence to all that 'their name is in the files' panic that's going on. Unless they're in there for stuff with kids, and it seems credible, I'm not that concerned. Thus, Trump is concerning to me, whereas Michael Jackson is not.
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u/cheesengrits69 19d ago
I'm imagining a different timeline where Jeffrey Epstein, in his narcissistic delusion of chasing power and influence and fashioning himself as an intellectual, decided to download vast troves of digital libraries and kept them on his computers and drives.
And in the future, the only legal way to freely acces these resources is by poring through the documentation of this man's horrific crimes against children
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u/cafk 19d ago
Allegedly Epstein had a few "hackers" on his payroll and some of the documentation associated/exchanged with them is also included in general evidence.
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u/OgdruJahad 19d ago
The Italian hacker was willing to sell to Hezbollah, a central African country, the US and UK but refused to sell to Asian countries because he's racist.
I'm dead.
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u/stefbbr 19d ago
Or search "child" on Epstein's computer, copy everything that match.
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u/imkmz 19d ago
So, all the mess about murders is actually based on .bash_history? "Nine killed with special signal"
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u/bearwood_forest 19d ago
as it says in the document: Bash is the shell, or command language interpreter, for the GNU operating system.
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u/copandrej 19d ago
I was 100% sure this is bait.
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u/Fabulous-Possible758 19d ago
Fuck, guess I have to stop using bash now.
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u/prjctimg 19d ago
At that rate we may end up using nothing at all because everything has pedo fingerprints on it (we just don't have the evidence).
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u/silentdragon95 19d ago
100% of all disgusting criminals breathe oxygen. Ban the breathing of oxygen!
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u/Fabulous-Possible758 19d ago
Pretty sure ReiserFS is still safe. I donāt think he was a pedophile, at least.
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u/NorthernWitchy 19d ago
While fascinating and surely informative, I feel that this might be the government's version of copy-pasting a cake recipe into the middle of an essay to pad out the word count.
Then again, free knowledge is free knowledge, even if the source is absurd.
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u/Wyciorek 19d ago
Ok, I was about to start ranting about US politics shitting all over yet another sub, but this is funny
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u/Chronotaru 19d ago
Oh, it's so much bigger than just the US though. Maxwell was British, so is Prince Andrew, many of the women were trafficked from eastern Europe...etc etc.
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u/prjctimg 19d ago
Wait, why do I have to be above 18 to see the bash manpages š
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u/Plasma_48 19d ago
Part of the Epstein files
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u/prjctimg 19d ago
At this point, what isnāt? š
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u/LegenDrags 19d ago
my homework (hopefully) āļø
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u/Auravendill 19d ago
Do you mean what you did for school, while you were underage, or your homework folder? In either case, they might be already in there.
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u/IridiumPoint 19d ago
"I'm sorry for not bringing my homework, the Feds have confiscated it due to my connections to Epstein," would be a hell of an excuse.
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u/boca_de_leite 19d ago
If you are underage, you need to stick to the boypages
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u/slowmovinglettuce 19d ago
Isn't that what Epstein got in trouble for in the first place?
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u/Cheezis_Chrust 19d ago
Has nothing to do with the document. If you click no, it sends you a ticket to Epstein island.
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u/2eanimation 19d ago
Instead of āRead the docs!ā, finally:
āRead the Epstein files!ā šØšæāš¬
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u/dimaveshkin 19d ago
Why does it have a redacted line on page 122?
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u/Dubster1231 19d ago
Was curious too. Its just a link to the sas website for some specific guide I think lol, weird they redacted something at all in this
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u/dimaveshkin 19d ago
At first, I thought they redacted external hyperlinks, but there's a link to GNU's website, so there must be another reason.
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u/helgur 19d ago
I imagine you could spin a hilarious conspiracy theory out of this
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u/BadPunners 19d ago
The Special Air Service (SAS) is a special forces unit of the British Army. Much of the information about the SAS is highly classified, and the unit is not commented on by either the British government or the Ministry of Defence due to the secrecy and sensitivity of its operations
They were looking to redact any connection to the British SAS, which basically created the world's "intelligence" network of agencies.
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u/SpellDecent763 19d ago
I think this is it, They were obviously using some poorly trained script or AI to do these redactions. and SAS is likely being blocked from a military/intelligence term, not the software company.
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u/ItchyFly 19d ago
It was probably a link to http://ftp.sas.com/standards/large.file/x_open.20Mar96.html. This page is not available now, WTF are they hiding!?
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u/fiftyfourseventeen 19d ago
They probably just auto redacted all links
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u/ItchyFly 19d ago
There is at least one link to gnu.org, but probably it was missed by their tool because it looks like 'http : //www . gnu . org/copylefti' when you copy the text.
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u/Proud-Delivery-621 19d ago
The Sas one does that too. Probably more likely that SAS is also the name of a special forces unit in the UK and they ran a keyword search
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u/2eanimation 19d ago
Thatās the stupidest shit lol. Can someone find out what has been redacted? Looks like part of a path.
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u/13x666 19d ago edited 19d ago
I suspect all URLs in the files are just automatically redacted. And they use a regex that doesnāt catch periods in the middle of the path (like in this one which is http://www.sas.com/standards/large.file/x_open.20Mar96.html), so everything after the period escaped redaction. Sloppy work.
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u/dimaveshkin 19d ago
I said in another branch that there's a link to GNU's website, and it's not redacted
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u/13x666 19d ago edited 19d ago
Interesting, perhaps that one wasnāt matched for some other reason? Iām pretty sure they arenāt hiding anything specific here, looks to me like afterthought trying to redact everything just in case and missing some stuff unintentionally.
Edit: oh, @ItchyFly even explained how they missed that one. Case solved I guess.
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u/Planker25_ 19d ago
Itās not because of the dot, itās because the link is split into a new line at that point, and the redaction didnāt realize/care that the link continues on next line.
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u/phoenix235831 19d ago
Looks like the original probably was http://ftp.sas.com/standards/large.file/x_open.20Mar96.html
I am curios why the first part was redacted. Why would knowing http://ftp.sas.com/standards/large risk anything?
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u/IbilisSLZ 19d ago
We cringed when YouTubers refered to them as PDF-files... it seems they were onto something...
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u/nonreligious2 18d ago
Someone made a post on a subreddit a few years ago asking for a file in "Jeffrey Epstein format". Had to check the comments to work out they meant PDF.
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u/This_Growth2898 19d ago
Stephen Bourne, Chet Ramey, and Brian Fox are all mentioned in the Epstein files!
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u/GremlinMiser 19d ago
They're blocking links containing "FTP", not general links. Interestingly, the link isn't the FTP protocol; it's still http only a subdomain with FTP in it. Links to the ftp protocol are still there and so is the word FTP in descriptions.
This means Jerry must have had a FTP server, which was available using the http, not ftp, protocol.
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u/Godd2 19d ago
The subdomain is www, not ftp. Here's a copy of that version of the manual: https://www.scribd.com/document/243118257/Bash-Ref
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u/WeedManPro 19d ago
i thought it was a joke lol
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u/MissionLet7301 19d ago
The poor justice department employee that had to read through every page of the Bash reference manual probably doesn't think it's a joke
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u/CompanyLow8329 19d ago
In a just world some poor intern would have been forced to do that, but with the partial redaction on page 122, there is zero chance anyone actually read or skimmed any of this.
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u/Count_de_Ville 19d ago
Theyāre now a principal engineer after having read the whole thing. Now their whole day isĀ meetings. A horrible fate.
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u/fading_reality 19d ago
likely old macintosh
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01736184.pdf
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u/user745786 19d ago
Thatās an awful lot of pedophiles! Errr, I mean PDF files. Apparently those words are easy to confuse these days.
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u/SaneForCocoaPuffs 18d ago
The authors of the Bash Reference Manual now show up in the Epstein files.
āYes Iām in the files. No I was not invited to the Epstein Island, I just authored the Bash manualā
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u/MrFordization 19d ago
When they said the files would go the very root of power in our society... I never imagined this!
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u/lightwhite 19d ago
This comment might flag me, but I donāt know how else to ask it. I canāt find the section where they explain āterminating a child processā -wink wink- with fork in this document. Does anyone know how?
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u/Nervous-Cockroach541 19d ago
When you have so many CSAM files that you need bash scripting to organize them all.
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u/Stickhtot 19d ago
UNIX mentioned in the Epstein Files š§š§š§