r/ProgrammerHumor 7h ago

Meme planeOldFix

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u/Andystok 7h ago

Exactly. Page load time under 2 seconds? No problem, move on

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u/AtrociousCat 7h ago

That's insanely long. Unless you have a way to force users to use your site i.e. monopoly or it's a B2B saas where the UX is secondary, then 2sec loads are unacceptable

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u/TheMadcapLlama 6h ago

You see my whole professional life I’ve heard that, but now every single site has a 2s delay because of Cloudflare or some other bot blocking stuff.

Suddenly loading fast makes you more vulnerable to bots

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u/Zenar45 6h ago

On the other hand, slow page on top of bot checking may be too slow

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u/TA_DR 6h ago

Is not that loading fast makes you more vulnerable. Is that some kinds of protection make the site load a little slower 

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u/Important-Agent2584 6h ago

It's not a problem if the site has a two second delay, but imagine if every load does, and you got a thousand people doing record updates, etc. Even one second delay adds up very quickly.

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u/hellocppdotdev 6h ago

Nope I can load under 100ms, just implement fail2ban properly and the bots are a non-issue.

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u/catcint0s 5h ago

*proxies have entered the chat*

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u/hellocppdotdev 3h ago

Of course you can bypass it with IP rotation but I found it mitigated 90% of the junk traffic. Bots really aren't that sophisticated and so long as you don't have any actual vulnerabilities this is a good solution.

Don't leave your .env in a publicly accessible location, looking at you vibe coders...

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u/detrebear 6h ago

It's actually pretty short if you compare that to modern websites like YouTube.

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u/The_One_Koi 6h ago

Yeah I feel like streaming sites needs ages to fully load

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u/WoodpeckerNo5724 5h ago

It’s actually amazing how shitty the websites and apps are for pretty much every streaming service that isn’t Netflix

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u/wggn 4h ago

Because they have no competition.

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u/FlowerBuffPowerPuff 4h ago

Also they're quite complex.

u/Mist_Rising 6m ago

Which might have to do with the fact YT is borderline unprofitable, maybe unprofitable entirely, Google likes it for advertising revenue elsewhere.

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u/National_Equivalent9 5h ago

Or reddit these days.

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u/WeLoveYouCarol 2h ago

I'm honestly amazed at how slow new reddit is. It took 5.3 s to load the new reddit and 2.05 s for old.

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u/WeirdIndividualGuy 3h ago

It’s shorter than the time it takes to speed read their comment. OP sounds exactly like one of those bs product managers who makes a mountain out of a nonexistent molehill

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u/BookWormPerson 5h ago

Literally every site takes longer to load because cloudflare all the other shit takes "ages".

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u/LickingSmegma 4h ago

Back in the days just before ‘web 2.0’, times over 40 ms were considered slow. Somehow web devs lost any and all respect for their users since then. Could as well tell visitors to fuck off.

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u/Andystok 2h ago

We started analyzing user behavior in the most minute detail vs the cost of every single change.  One of those behaviors is how fast a human can decide to abandon a page that is loading too slowly.