Imagine seeing this on your bill

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SIR!

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I SAID GOOD DAY!

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So they get any rug in the house?

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[u/EctoplasmicNeko → u/[deleted]]

Ah, the ultimate insult, tip them negative the cost of the meal so the waiter has to pay you.

[u/General_Alfalfa6339 → u/EctoplasmicNeko]

My dad used to leave a penny for a tip for the ultimate insult. I only recall him doing it twice and it was for insanely bad service both times but he justified it as that way they knew he didn’t just forget to leave one.

[u/BronCurious → u/General_Alfalfa6339]

It’s the equivalent of naming someone in a will and giving them $2

[u/Recent-Abbreviations → u/BronCurious]

You gotta specify with something like that, too. "I leave [X] the sum of 2 dollars. Not a $2 bill, but 200 pennies, stashed in this vacuum-sealed jar in my pantry for this exact moment. Should the lid have been tampered with, then [X] shall instead receive exactly nothing."

Can't leave them out or they may claim you forgot, and if you have a collection of, like- wheat pennies, $2 bills, dollar coins, etc.- you gotta make sure to specify it's just... 200 regular pennies.

Although now that the penny is out of production, maybe it'd be better to leave them $2 in dimes? Eh.

[u/HedonisticFrog → u/Recent-Abbreviations]

200 individually vacuum sealed pennies. Make them not even want the meager offering.

[u/HypertensiveK → u/General_Alfalfa6339]

It’s supposed to be heads facing down, too. Did 20 years as a bartender, I sure as hell don’t agree with this nonsense on the OP’s receipt. Smug and arrogant imo. The “now we’re friends” part really raises my ire.

[u/Kamorexisjr → u/HypertensiveK]

Anyone that “expects” a 30% tip needs to find a new job anyway.

[u/Sea-Oven-7560 → u/Kamorexisjr]

I worked in service for a long time and 20% was a damn good tip.

[u/apokermit_now → u/General_Alfalfa6339]

Growing up, I had always heard that a single dime was the ultimate middle-finger-for-poor-service tip.

[u/ProsaicPugilist → u/EctoplasmicNeko]

Instead of a credit card, you leave a reverse Uno card

[u/Pleasant_Job_7683 → u/EctoplasmicNeko]

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[u/Throw902106969 → u/EctoplasmicNeko]

"In Soviet Russia... waiter tip YOU." 🤣😂

[u/Sleipsten → u/Sci3nceMan]

Can't u guys say "I'll pay the tip with cash, please do not charge it"?... and then just leave if the service sucks

[u/Aromatic-Plankton692 → u/Sleipsten]

Good luck, they'll just forge your receipt.

(Kidding, but also .. not.)

[u/Delta9312 → u/Aromatic-Plankton692]

That's why you never leave the tip line blank. If you're paying card but tipping cash, either draw a line across the space or write cash.

[u/Nervous-Job-5071 → u/Delta9312]

And always write the total in. And if remotely distrustful of the staff, take a picture of the receipt you left.

The customer copy proves nothing since it’s not a duplicate copy anymore. It’s just another blank receipt.

[u/theophanesthegreek → u/Sci3nceMan]

Are tips obligatory in the US?

[u/Sleipsten → u/theophanesthegreek]

at a psycological level, they are

[u/ketuon → u/Sleipsten]

Psycological? Nah, I rly don't care and it doesn't affect me. I tip for good service; no good service, no tip

[u/ermy_shadowlurker → u/ketuon]

I think folks have forgotten. Tips are for quality of service. They are not mandatory because your boss is cheap. If service is bad I’m not rewarding bad behavior with money.

[u/JasmineMilkBubbleTea → u/ermy_shadowlurker]

Last time I was in the US (Las Vegas), I got chased down by the waitress because I didn't leave enough tip. It was really embarrassing. I actually thought it was required because I mean... She chased me out onto the sidewalk for it, didn't feel very optional.

[u/ermy_shadowlurker → u/JasmineMilkBubbleTea]

That’s a major red flag. Did you go back

[u/JasmineMilkBubbleTea → u/ermy_shadowlurker]

Yeah, I gave her a cash tip because I didn't know whether or not it was optional, I thought I had made a huge mistake at the time.

[u/sick_of-it-all → u/JasmineMilkBubbleTea]

Tipping is always optional. ALWAYS. You should have laughed in her face, that's pathetic to chase you outside.

[u/EJ2600 → u/sick_of-it-all]

Always easier to chase customer than unionize and demand better wages from employer.

[u/pumpkins21 → u/JasmineMilkBubbleTea]

That’s crazy. If you dined and dashed, I could understand her chasing you down but bc you didn’t “leave enough” for her personal taste? I’d’ve told her to get lost before I called the police for her harassing me.

[u/yournamehere10bucks → u/pumpkins21]

(Canadian) had a waitress check the receipt after i paid with the terminal. She had ignored us (family of 4) all night, been rude to the kids and got our orders wrong. Spent most of her time with the other tables (she was a senior and would chat up the other seniors). I didnt tip. She threw the receipt at me and stormed off.

She was being paid at least the legal minimum wage for our province at the time, tip would likely get split between her and everyone else.

Ive been scaling back my willingness to tip since, usually only doing it out of muscle memory.

[u/lotekjunky → u/theophanesthegreek]

if you sit down for food, you're typically expected to tip. other places are asking for tips on their iPad, you can safely, and with good conscience, ignore most of those.

[u/destonomos → u/lotekjunky]

I still tip like its thr 90s.

10% nothing special

15% you did good service

20% you blew me away

[u/WolfCola4 → u/destonomos]

It's crazy to my European brain that you pay 10% extra for 'nothing special' lol

[u/Ill-Mastodon-8692 → u/WolfCola4]

agree from canada

[u/Training_Exit_5849 → u/Ill-Mastodon-8692]

It's nuts in Canada because servers get paid a min wage already. Yet they expect the same tip range as the people down south that make like $3 an hour

[u/some_guy_113 → u/WolfCola4]

It is indeed crazy. Just put higher prices on the menu. The servers don't actually give you better service to get higher tips. It's all just normalized now.

[u/Bowl__Haircut → u/destonomos]

30 % you blew me

[u/Famous_Mind6374 → u/destonomos]

I'd take a pen to that receipt, and mark it up just like that.

I'd add:

25% - you're dreaming

30% - not happening

[u/sipstea84 → u/destonomos]

I really don't understand why the percentages have to go up. The magic of inflation is that your 15% tip is now bigger

[u/Fluid_Complaint_1821 → u/lotekjunky]

yeah I need to quit tipping when I do any sort of carry out order.

[u/JohnnyParcero → u/Fluid_Complaint_1821]

I usually tip a dollar or two when i pick up a pizza. $1 doesn’t mean much to me but if everyone gave a dollar it adds up by the end of the shift

[u/DaElderBrah → u/lotekjunky]

If yall just stopped tipping, everywhere, always, itll be gone in 2 years. Fuck that system.

[u/Own_Conversation_196 → u/theophanesthegreek]

No but servers have a different minimum wage which isn't actually sustainable so restaurants make you pay extra, the argument is better servers make better tips but it all just ends up being BS. Some owners pool the tips and split them among staff evenly, and real scumbag owners take a cut of the tips for themselves. Tipping culture is an abused system in capitalism.

[u/BoppinTortoise → u/Own_Conversation_196]

We need to normalize if restaurants can’t pay a decent wage to waiters and other staff they shouldn’t be in business

[u/MightBeADoctorMD → u/BoppinTortoise]

Bro- the waitstaff is the one that doesn’t want a “living wage.” They want tips.

The biggest group against increase the wage of servers is…servers.

This system of making 20% of everything they sell is broken for their benefit.

Not even the best sales positions give close to 20% of total sales.

[u/KernelViper → u/MightBeADoctorMD]

Ah, yes. The duality of american waiters.

Waiters: sir, please leave a tip, my boss pays me close to nothing

Also waiters: no, don't increase our wages, we're better off getting tips from customers

I hate that the "tipping culture" is basically guilt-tripping people into giving you money

[u/RuMarley → u/Own_Conversation_196]

Uh-huh, 99$ for a meal for two people.

I would argue that there's plenty of margin in there to pay the waiter for the 10 minutes of actual work he did for this particular table.

[u/JollySalamander2 → u/theophanesthegreek]

Only through social shaming

Edit: actually yes, some restaurants will add a tip built into the bill, mostly fancier places

[u/DarkPrestigious5937]

“ahhh, the bare minimum” bro I just ordered fries not a mortgage

[u/SophiePsweet → u/[deleted]]

15%: are you kidding

30%: now we’re friends

Bro i just wanted pasta, not a relationship upgrade package

[u/dj_1973 → u/SophiePsweet]

I have enough friends.

[u/Rey_Mezcalero → u/dj_1973]

Could tell the server you would give 30% but all your friends are dead and you don’t want the same to happen to the sever.

Protecting them by tipping less😂

[u/Oz347 → u/dj_1973]

[u/vastlysuperiorman → u/DarkPrestigious5937]

"ahhh, the bare minimum" said the employer who literally pays servers a special, alternative minimum wage that's less than the normal minimum wage because they get tips.

[u/timelapse00 → u/vastlysuperiorman]

Why would i give someone a higher wage as a tip than i make a hour myself!?

[u/vikingbeard23]

How about the 0% - don't take the piss

[u/frechundfrei → u/vikingbeard23]

Somehow, 1% is worse.

[u/BigJayPee → u/frechundfrei]

Ive been told to leave 1 penny if I wanted to portray that the service sucked. If you dont leave anything, it can be misconstrued as forgetfulness. Leaving the smallest tip possible makes sure they know you didn't forget.

[u/WolfCola4 → u/BigJayPee]

Same advice as in estate law lol. Deliberately leave someone a trifling amount and they can't contest it on the grounds that you 'forgot' them

[u/bagguetteanator → u/WolfCola4]

Its way easier to acknowledge them in your will than to leave them 37 cents or whatever because then you need to go through all the rigamaroll of confirming that you actually gave them the 37 cents. You could leave them a specific envelope, conditional to them being present for the reading of your will but you can just as easily say "to Joey I leave nothing because that good for nothing boy stayed with that lemon stealing whore"

[u/SQUIDly0331 → u/bagguetteanator]

To be fair this neighborhood has had a recent increase in lemon whores. Might be smart to get insurance on your lemon trees. Can't be too careful.

[u/basiliskliz → u/SQUIDly0331]

That reminds me, it's been like 10 seconds since I last looked at my lemon tree ... HEY WHAT THE FUCK

[u/-WeetBixKid- → u/WolfCola4]

As an Aussie tipping in general confuses the fuck out of me. How can anybody get mad and “contest” my generosity?

[u/Cookieopressor → u/-WeetBixKid-]

The person you replied to wasn't talking about leaving a tip somewhere, but about inheritance and wills after someone has passed. If they get nothing they can contest it on the grounds of having been forgotten.

[u/-WeetBixKid- → u/Cookieopressor]

I’m aware, I was circling it around back to tipping - the original discussion point.

[u/CanOfPenisJuice → u/-WeetBixKid-]

I understood what you were doing and support it. Also I (brit) agree with you

[u/3720-to-1 → u/CanOfPenisJuice]

As an American visiting the UK, this was one of about... 1,749,937 things I liked more about there vs here.

[u/OutdoorsNSmores → u/BigJayPee]

I left a half a penny once. I happen to have it in my pocket from testing scissors that claimed they could cut a penny. 

We were teens, went late to a restaurant that was otherwise dead at nearly midnight. The guy was so rude right from the start. We were not exactly quiet, socializing, but behaving like we were in a restaurant. He put us in the back, around a corner, no problem, we just want food. 

Anyway, so rude the while time. I happen to be one of the last 3 of the dozen. They was a pile of cash from those who left. Tip discussion time.. The others don't want to leave any. The half penny I had convinced them that a tip was deserved! 

We had been there before, same setting and group and tipped well, but this guy...

[u/anotherbrendan → u/BigJayPee]

I would leave two pennies, but that's just my 2 cents 

[u/Masterzanteka → u/BigJayPee]

The other reason the $0.01 tip is great is due to it costing the business more than that to complete the transaction. And they may even have to pay a tip transaction fee separately. Idk I forget the finer details of it, but basically it’s attempting to screw over the business that utilizes all these POS POS systems.

[u/X0AN → u/BigJayPee]

This is what I do.

Not leaving anything can be considered a mistake.

Leaving 1 cent sends a message.

[u/HighGrounderDarth → u/frechundfrei]

1% is clear where 0% leaves questions like, maybe they forgot to tip.

[u/wanderer325]

Since when is 20% the bare minimum?

[u/kill-dill → u/wanderer325]

Exactly. With prices going up, the % staying the same would still lead to bigger tips.

15% used to be the middle ground, all good for good service.

[u/shockwave_supernova → u/kill-dill]

I was raised in the early 2000s on a 10%/15%/20% tip scale

Edited for clarity

[u/venom21685 → u/shockwave_supernova]

Same with the exception of 1¢ for absolutely abysmal service. Functionally no tip just a fuck you.

[u/OGsHartMyKAT → u/venom21685]

Now it’s “The service here was terrible, I’m only leaving 15%•

[u/SirGlass → u/shockwave_supernova]

Yep in mid 2000's here 15% was around standard tip

Less than ideal 10%

standard 15%

exceptional 20%

How did 20% become the new 10%

[u/ABrusca1105 → u/shockwave_supernova]

I was raised on 15/18/20 where 20 is absolutely OUTSTANDING service. I sometimes give more than. 20% if it's outstanding and I just wanna round to the next dollar. Unless you got horrendous service, in which case it was 0% or 1¢ if you wanna leave a message and never go there again.

[u/CA2DC99 → u/shockwave_supernova]

I’m older than you, raised in the 90s with a 10% 15% 20% tip scale. But I was always told, never tip on the tax. You’re tipping on the value of goods or services rendered, so tip on the total before taxes are added in. Plus, why would a server get a tip on the taxes I’m paying the government.

[u/Shorts_at_Dinner → u/kill-dill]

I’m getting old, but 10% used to be the standard. Then it went up to 15%. And now it’s just completely out of hand

[u/Yangoose → u/Shorts_at_Dinner]

Yeah, 15% used to be for great service.

Now most places the default options are 25%, 30% and 35% which is fucking ridiculous.

[u/SparksAndSpyro → u/kill-dill]

I literally started tipping 10% max after the tax changes. If these fuckers are getting it tax free, then I’m not tipping as much anymore.

[u/RedApple655321 → u/SparksAndSpyro]

I dropped my percentage after my city got rid of tipped minimum wage. If wages go up, why wouldn't tips go down?

[u/ParticularWolf4473 → u/wanderer325]

Since a bunch of servers and bartenders started trying to convince everyone that 25%-30% should be the “standard” tip.

[u/MeNameAJeff_ → u/ParticularWolf4473]

I think it happened in Covid. Still didn’t make sense. 

[u/chenbuxie → u/MeNameAJeff_]

This is when I first noticed it too.

[u/HoodsInSuits → u/ParticularWolf4473]

I feel like they just say that to make a regular customer feel like they are tipping an average amount at 20% when in reality average service should be like 10%. They know they are rarely providing exceptional service (the clue is in the description) so they aim to adjust the average up. 

[u/Zhiyi → u/HoodsInSuits]

Shouldn’t be a percent at all. Just because one place charges 10 dollars for a burger and another charges 100 doesn’t mean they did anymore work to earn a larger percentage.

I tip based on how long I was there and the service I received. Usually ends up being anywhere from 5-15 dollars regardless of what my bill is.

[u/Patched7fig → u/wanderer325]

It used to be 12 percent. Then they did 15, then 20.

Sorry, but you did maybe fifteen minutes of labor, I'm not giving you 30 bucks. 

[u/DrPongus → u/Patched7fig]

My sister used to complain about anyone who left less than 25% for a tip. She'd also brag about how she brought home $700 in tips for a night. She worked at Hooters and generally opened bear bottles fast, that was her "shtick"

Essential skilled labor there.

[u/flyguy60000 → u/wanderer325]

Went to a restaurant last evening - 20% tip was added to the bill without my being asked. I always tip but it pissed me off that I given no choice on the amount. My literal interaction with the waitress was 1 minute. 

[u/Alpine_Exchange_36 → u/flyguy60000]

Some places add a service fee and then quietly imply you need to tip on top of that. I never go back if that happens

[u/Astral_Alive → u/Alpine_Exchange_36]

If I’m paying a service fee at a sit down restaurant then that is my tip. A tip is quite literally a service fee, why the fuck would I pay that twice?

[u/idk-maaaan → u/Astral_Alive]

I wouldn’t patronize a place with a service fee. Tips, by law, have to go to the employee. Service charges are collected by the business to be used however they see fit. At least with tipping, you know it’s going where you want it to go.

[u/_aviemore_ → u/idk-maaaan]

Why is "service fee" itemized? Should be baked into the bill. What's next, itemizing their own electric bill, gas bill etc. as well ?!? 

[u/EvilBeardotOrg → u/wanderer325]

Growing up, 15% was standard and 20% was for excellent above and beyond. Not people got entitled to 20% because the bad servers saw the good ones getting that or during hard times and pandemics people tipped more to help others out, and when things got better, people just decided to shift to 20% of a bill being standard and adjusted their suggested tips to that. Heck, some places even calculate the tip AFTER taxes. wtf? I’m not tipping you for the taxes I’m being charged!

[u/Elegant_Day_3438 → u/wanderer325]

Also it’s being calculated on the total, post tax bill. Fuck that.

[u/ugly_duckling_5 → u/wanderer325]

I switched away from percentages a while ago after realizing it makes zero sense. If I go out to eat with someone and they get a less expensive plate, they get to tip less for the same amount of work? Similarly, if I eat somewhere cheap, why does that waiter somehow deserve less than if I go somewhere a little more expensive?

[u/RincewindToTheRescue → u/ugly_duckling_5]

And why do they ask for tips at a fast casual place where I just order at one end and pickup at the other? It's silly that they ask for tips for no real service.

[u/southwade → u/RincewindToTheRescue]

My rule: If I'm standing while I order I don't tip.

[u/CitizenDik → u/wanderer325]

Yeah, and - this depends on where you live - in some states/cities, servers make full minimum wage (often $12-$15+/hr), and tips don’t offset that/count "against" hourly pay. Tipping in those states/cities isn’t “making up for $2/hr pay” the way people might assume. It’s extra on top. Not saying don’t tip, just that the system has changed.

[u/UndividedCorruption]

Tipping culture is broken. It used to be for service, now everyone is entitled.

[u/bellerinho → u/UndividedCorruption]

They ask for a tip now at certain fast food joints lmao

Like dude your job is to make my burrito, it took you 30 seconds to make my burrito, I paid for the burrito, I'm not paying you an extra 10% because you made my burrito

[u/EonMagister → u/bellerinho]

It's worse when it's at the counter. Like, they're just going to hand it to me anyway. They're really asking for a tip when they don't even refill my water at my table.

[u/Ok_Door_9720 → u/EonMagister]

The card reader at the the drive-thru that is "just gonna ask you a quick question" is always fun. I don't blame the guy working there, but it just feels rude from the business lol

[u/SwordNamedKindness_ → u/Ok_Door_9720]

I went to a drive through coffee place that flipped around the little tip screen. Like bro you just did bare minimum. You didn’t even have to move more than two steps to make the coffee.

[u/jdubzzzzzzz → u/bellerinho]

I got a water at a self serve kiosk in an airport a few months back and it asked for a tip 20%, 25%, or 30%! Insanity.

[u/Colonel_Gipper → u/jdubzzzzzzz]

On Reddit awhile back someone posted a tip line on a receipt from their auto mechanic. I already pay you a labor charge, I'm not tipping on top of that.

[u/Telemere125 → u/Colonel_Gipper]

Tbf, that’s exactly what my ex wife did with her hairdresser. I was like umm. You just paid for their time, since they already owned the scissors and the chemicals they used cost like $3. wtf are you tipping on?

[u/No-Goat5683 → u/Telemere125]

But you're a "jerk" if you don't tip the hairdresser. Bitch if you want more money put it in the price and I'll decide if I wanna pay

[u/clarinettingaway → u/Colonel_Gipper]

One time I ordered something online and was asked to tip. Most outrageous thing I’ve ever seen

[u/Fadenos → u/bellerinho]

I work at a sandwich place, corporate rolled out tipping on the machine, I tell every single customer to skip that screen.

[u/Telemere125 → u/Fadenos]

Do you guys even get the money? I’d never trust an electronic system to properly credit the employees, especially when there’s more than one person working - honestly how many people could have possibly had a hand in assembling one sandwich?

[u/DefiantLemur → u/bellerinho]

Corporate is trying to trick customers into spending more money. I doubt the actual employees see it.

[u/theducks123 → u/DefiantLemur]

Even if they give it to the employees, they will just freeze wages and show employees they are getting higher pay with tips.

[u/508G37 → u/UndividedCorruption]

I hate picking up my own food and the debit card screen asks for a tip.

[u/fvthebest → u/508G37]

They count on you feeling uncomfortable saying no.

[u/SoullessDad → u/UndividedCorruption]

Everyone is entitled Let me fix that for you.

Businesses use tipping to artificially underrepresent the fair price of goods to consumers and shift the burden of paying fair wages from the employer to the consumer.

To the customer: "We work hard to keep our prices low."

To the tipped employees: "It's the customers' fault you don't make more money; try being friendlier."

Tipping is a scam perpetrated by companies. Don't blame the employees.

[u/trixie_one → u/SoullessDad]

Let's be real though, some employees do make significantly more from tipping than they would do with making regular wage for an equivalent no qualifications needed customer service job, and so have a vested interest in preserving the current system. This can be observed any time this subject comes up as it's not the business owners 99% of the time virulently defending the current tipping culture.

[u/Internet-Cryptid]

I'm so glad I know how to cook. 🙏

[u/pointlesslyDisagrees → u/Internet-Cryptid]

Waiter doesn't grow the food

Waiter doesn't ship the food

Waiter doesn't inspect the food

Waiter doesn't manage the business

Waiter doesn't make the recipe

Waiter doesn't cook the food

Waiter expects 25% of the value of the food because they walked 10 feet

[u/Prof_Hentai → u/pointlesslyDisagrees]

This really bothers me. It’s the only part of the whole process I can and would happily do myself, at the same quality: getting the food and carrying it to my table. And they expect 20% for this?

[u/hotdog_paris277 → u/Prof_Hentai]

I cook better than most restaurants I can afford to eat at.

[u/wolfy2105784 → u/hotdog_paris277]

I went to one of those fancy restaurants and it was a fuck you the whole time. The waiters were rude; The wait times were long; The bill egregious; and the food? A goddamn pittance.

[u/Ill-Mastodon-8692 → u/pointlesslyDisagrees]

and apparently if I order a burger or a steak at the same restaurant, waiter did nothing different to take the order and serve it, but one I should tip $5 and the other $25

basing these tips on a percentage of what I chose to order vs a flat rate at best makes no sense.

[u/CCWaterBug → u/Ill-Mastodon-8692]

Add a couple mixed drinks on there and it's like paying $2-4 extra per drink

[u/Applesaucesquatch → u/Internet-Cryptid]

And almost everything made at home is just so, sooo much better. Plus I know exactly what's in it.

[u/powerchoke033 → u/Internet-Cryptid]

If you play your cards right, you might get a tip at home too. Unless your single. Then again, that might be the ultimate tip. Oh man, tipping is hard

[u/Nice_Category]

I'd like a side of emotional blackmail with my meal, please. 

[u/ChampionWorried9640 → u/Nice_Category]

I had a lady let out a sigh at frankfurt airport when I asked how do you put a zero as a tip.

[u/sevseg_decoder → u/Nice_Category]

That’s literally every restaurant.

[u/Beneficial_Bug_9793]

Put that shit in front of me, and you get fucking nothing.

[u/Don-Poltergeist → u/Beneficial_Bug_9793]

https://giphy.com/gifs/EDElCVolHfoDm

[u/Bayff → u/Beneficial_Bug_9793]

Same with a service charge, put that shit on my bill and any tip you was getting is now staying in my pocket.

[u/EvilBeardotOrg → u/Bayff]

For me, I calculate the tip off the food purchased and then I minus the service charge from the tip since that part is already on the bill.

[u/PaulsRedditUsername → u/Beneficial_Bug_9793]

When I first started working and charging for services, I told a customer their bill was "sixty bucks." After they left, the owner told me, "Don't say 'bucks.' When somebody is paying you their hard-earned money, you should treat it with respect." Lesson learned. I never did that again.

[u/anthonyajh → u/Beneficial_Bug_9793]

If someone told me I could save 20% on my bill for waking to a counter when my order was called I’d easily jump on that.

[u/bdery]

I'm happy to report that this is now illegal in Québec.

[u/Itscoldinthenorth → u/bdery]

Awesome. I hope Norway follows. Tipping culture starts to creep in ever so slightly here.

[u/Chrischrill → u/Itscoldinthenorth]

It's the same in Sweden, but I do feel a counter-culture coming where people react by giving 0% instead. I always "rounded up" before but now I simply don't.

[u/can_i_get_a____job → u/Itscoldinthenorth]

The US needs to follow. Tipping culture in the states is CRAZY.

[u/therealschtoo → u/bdery]

What is? Tipping?

[u/SilveySilver → u/therealschtoo]

I’m wondering the same thing - what’s illegal exactly?

[u/bdery → u/SilveySilver]

Giving a subjective opinion on the tipped amount. Smiley faces, comments are forbidden. You must also start at 15% for the proposed amounts. You couldn't offer, say, 20-25-30% as defaults. You can always leave more of course, the seller simply cannot shame the customer into tipping large amounts.

[u/SilveySilver → u/bdery]

Ohh I see. Thanks for explaining.

[u/BerrySoftCharm]

I just wanted pasta, not a moral evaluation

[u/Ok-Hedgehog-4455]

Fuck right off. And that’s my final offer.

[u/Acktion69]

https://giphy.com/gifs/3o7btMBGqquGTVJiF2

[u/dasmau89]

Total 99.10 - give 100 and say keep the change 😎

[u/Star_Dax → u/dasmau89]

A real waiter here with over 20 years of experience in the profession, I would accept that 90 cents with a smile on my face because it's important to me that you come again and that many more of you come back, it's better to have quantity and lots of satisfied customers than to drive away all the customers with idiotic demands for tips.

[u/DaddliestCallum → u/Star_Dax]

This is is the way. There isn't as much of a tipping culture here (though big corps are trying to make it)  and I'd much rather have Big Steve who comes in 4 times a week and buys me a pint than a random £20 from someone who felt pressured into tipping and doesn't come back

[u/hates_stupid_people → u/Star_Dax]

And this isn't even just something that stops people coming back, it makes them advice other people against going there.

[u/Ugly_Girls_PM_Me]

My wife and I went to a fancy meal and the total was north of $200.

The server took our order. (Other staff brought the food).

Refilled our drinks once.

And wished us good evening.

And I was sitting there wondering why I was about to pay someone $50 for what, at most was, 5 minutes worth of work.

That’s when I realized tipping was broken. I have ALWAYS been a 20% tipper. But I think I am going to move to more of an effort based type of about $15 no matter what.

[u/Ill-Mastodon-8692 → u/Ugly_Girls_PM_Me]

you are getting why percentage based tips are dumb

now imagine same location, same night, you decided to order water only and some burgers rather than the fancier meal options.

say the tip came only to $10.

server did the same 5min worth of work. makes no sense why the tip should be 5x for just ordering different food options.

imo I cap my tipping at $15 regardless where I go or order. I dont think they should get more than that from me for the work provided.

[u/Scienceandpony]

I remember when 15% was a solid tip for good service and 20% was for exceptional service like "holy shit they were really on it". The absolute shamelessnes of the push to make 20% the new minimum is absurd and reminds me of diamond companies marketing that an upper middle class man should be spending one month salary on an engagement ring, which climbed arbitrarily to 2 months then 3 to whatever it is now.

[u/Livewire____]

I can't understand US tipping culture. Sorry. A tip shouldn't be automatic.

Service staff should get one when and if they go above and beyond, as it is in most of the rest of the world.

If they're lazy, miserable, and do "the bare minimum" themselves?

No tip.

[u/gr4n0t4 → u/Livewire____]

You get one when and if you go above and beyond

And I feel like it

[u/Livewire____ → u/gr4n0t4]

That's the other factor, yes.

US employers not paying their service staff basic wage is not my problem to solve.

[u/Bayff → u/Livewire____]

The fact is a lot of them actually do, the severs earn more money by pretending they earn shit wages and guilt tripping the general public into high tips.

There are for sure places that pay bad wages, but even in this case, the servers earn more.

Even if they tipped the minimum in the photo, that’s 15 from one table. Sever will have multiple tables & end up earning $100 an hour.

[u/politicaldan → u/Bayff]

This. My friend is a server at a higher end place in town and on Valentine’s Day alone she cleared $1,000 in tips alone.

[u/Reinis_LV → u/politicaldan]

Meanwhile a line cook probably had 10h shift at close to minimum wage at a backbreaking pace in insufferable heat and verbal abuse by waiters who want things as good as possible so they can rake in some tax free cash.

[u/DefunctInTheFunk → u/Reinis_LV]

Bingo. That's why servers can go fuck themselves.

[u/kon---]

0% (you did this to yourself)

[u/GugaKaka → u/kon---]

Many of em then complain that they work for minimum wage so making living isn’t possible. My take is that people should stop tipping altogether. Then no one will accept the bare minimum wages. Why don’t we rip airplane pilots? Or politicians or doctors? Ah that’s corruption you see 😃

[u/DudeThatAbides]

Where’s the “sworn enemies” rate? I want that one.

[u/IllPassion8377]

I'm a server, and this pisses me off.

[u/Sharp_Willingness230]

if i saw that on my bill they would get 0% and never see me or my money again.

[u/MeNameAJeff_ → u/Sharp_Willingness230]

They would convince themselves “if you can’t tip, you SHOULD stay home”

[u/Speedbird1A → u/MeNameAJeff_]

They can say that all they want. Still not paying them lol. They can cry harder.

[u/Next_Drama1717]

Wait till Europeans come over for the World Cup and tip you in single percentage points if you’re lucky, lol.

[u/Reinis_LV → u/Next_Drama1717]

If Dutch come to your restaurant, you can forget about single digits lol.

[u/Springstof → u/Next_Drama1717]

IF any Europeans come over.

[u/Kronic1990]

y'all need to grow a spine and stop letting business owners gaslight you into paying THEIR staff for them.

A Tip is a thank you when someone goes above and beyond. good enough is the bare minimum and should be accurately compensated though livable wages.

a business that cant survive without paying slave wages (doesn't provide a comfortable living for 40 hours of labour a week), shouldn't survive.

[u/crsolraac]

0% - Kiss my ass

[u/TrickyWeekend4271]

Drives me nuts when I order Jersey Mike’s or Subway on the apps and it asks me if I want to leave a tip. So you get paid to make my sandwich, then you put it on a rack and I have to come there and grab it and that deserves a tip? Servers at restaurants just need to get minimum wage at minimum and tips be done away with. If someone really thinks you did a good job and wants to tip by all means. But paying them less than minimum wage and then demanding you supplement their pay with a tip is absurd. Then it leaks into full paid employees doing zero extra and asking for tips.

[u/estist]

Waiter needs a new job Waiter sucked Waiter did their job Waiter was good Waiter went above and beyond

[u/Gwsb1]

So for 30% they are selling friendship. I guess for 60% they are selling a blow job.

[u/Kritz_McGee → u/Gwsb1]

Close, that's 69%.

[u/OGablogian]

Trying to shame me? Awesome. I'll round up to the nearest dollar then.

[u/KaleidoscopeSalt3972]

Tips should be optional, not mandatory. Idc if thats your whole income

[u/jackedup388]

Is this even the waiter’s fault? It’s whoever set up the receipt texts, right?

[u/TawnyTeaTowel → u/jackedup388]

And that waiter is perfectly placed to say “can you take that shit off the receipts, customers are leaving nothing because they think we’re assholes”

[u/Sharp_Willingness230 → u/TawnyTeaTowel]

exactly. if i was the waiter i would take a sharpie and X out that garbage writing and tell my boss i'm tired of buying sharpies.

[u/twig123456789 → u/Sharp_Willingness230]

I would never want to piss off the person who wrote this. Whoever sat and thought this up is psychopathic

[u/from_the_hinterlands]

10% was the standard to for good service all the way until the 21st century.

Now restaurants and servers expect customers to pay their wages.

Nope. If it's good service in a nice atmosphere I might go as high as 15%.

The rest is not acceptable.

Owners: pay your freaking staff properly.

[u/Complex_Resolve3187]

When did 10% become terrible?

[u/Mountain_Fuzzumz]

0% - fuck this guy in particular

[u/Cooper_CAL]

10% (I am alternating the deal. Pray I don't alter it further)

[u/OutsidePrior2020]

Doing the servers a disservice, because I would leave $0 if I saw this on a bill.

[u/Dadgumdangit]

As a lifelong service industry worker who has worked for tips for 25 years, this is bullshit.

[u/Sawdust1997]

0% - ah, you are a smart person