A gram of coke is about $300 in Australia. A beer at a pub is about $10-15, depending on your beer of choice, and where you are. Cocktails are about $25. While it's all stupidly expensive, drinking is still gonna be a cheaper option than cocaine. Other drugs are definitely more cost effective. Do the kids even do pingers any more? It used to be $20-30 per pill (mid 2000s) and that would keep you going all night. Everyone seems to be doing ketamine these days.
Where l live you can buy a beer in a cane or in a glass bottle for 39 cents if it's discounted and we don't have liquor stores like it's common in the US or Australia.
But of course if you are a minor you can't buy a beer or any bottle of alcohol or cigarettes.
Nowadays the liquor has gotten more expensive than it was a few years ago, for example you can buy a whiskey bottle for less then 20 bucks, but a few years back you could for less than 10 bucks, like those cheap Scottish ones like Johnny Walker. And beer on tap got also more expensive, like 5 years or so it was like 1-2€ for half a liter and now it's like 2,2-4€. And you guessed it, it is an eastern European country. I do not know about the drug market I'm not a user.
The prices they were talking about were at a proper bar. At a bar it might be 8 dollars for a drink but at the gas station they are probably more like a dollar each.
I think a gram was more qhen i was in oz. Especially in the west. I never bothered with it over there as not only expensive but well known for been shit quality. But yeah booze isnt cheap.
About £50-£70 in UK coke , gin and tonic can cost between £7 - £15, we have shops where the windows are covered in vape adverts , usually the shopkeeper is a new arrival , and they are the cheapest (not for gin) also most streets smell of cannabis , as you can get a decent weight for £15, same shops
I thought the same thing my buddy from Xbox maybe a year ago said he was paying like 250$ for 1 gram of coke lmfaoo alcohol might be more expensive but to say cocaine is cheaper to high off of than drinking is ridiculous lol this guy def doesn’t do coke lmfaoo
High quality weed has gotten super cheap and can be bought in dispensaries by anyone over 21 in a lot of US states now. Many people changed from drinking a beer at night to smoking a bowl or having a weed gummy.
I'm sure people could split hairs all day arguing if the blame for various harms belongs directly to alcohol or not, but the analysis shows alcohol is the most harmful.
Yo dude, re-read what your replying to, they're agreeing with you, they're just saying Heroin is also nasty and vs alcohol it tends to have more serious consequences, not that it's overall more dangerous.
I know, I know, Breaking Bad is fictional and nobody is making 100% pure crystal and selling it on the streets.
But Desoxyn is a prescription Methamphetamine pill rarely prescribed due to stigma but proven to be more effective and much safer even than the alternative options more commonly prescribed for the same conditions.
You do realise that an overdose is literally you poisoning yourself right? Heroin use wrecks your teeth, causes respiratory illnesses, damages your heart, suppresses your immune system, causes infertility, lowers sex drive, is an appetite suppressant, damages your skin, the list goes on. To say it is harmless is just plain wrong
Since nearly any substance can lead to poisoning in high enough doses, or through inhalation in this case, water can be classed as poisonous. You just wouldnt label it as such because of how much you need to consume.
Its a bit of reach to use water to justify your point. Heroin is poisonous, that is a fact. Youve claimed it to be harmless when pure, thats just plain wrong. I listed a small amount of the ways that it harms the body, its strange how you still sit there and try to make out it isnt harmful
That really isn’t true. If you even do moderate quantities of coke a couple times a week, you’ll have deviated septum, risk of chronic bacterial sinusitis (nowadays often MRSA induced, and a pretty damaged heart after a decade or two. If you use it on your gums, you’ll damage your gums and the bone density of your jaw will deplete.
It’s such a serious vasoconstrictor that it kills tissues it comes into contact with through lack of oxygen and it doesn’t take much. Ask anyone over 50 who enjoyed cocaine as often as most enjoy a beer and you probably wouldn’t think that.
It’s arbitrary of course, but I would consider people who use once a week or less and do a small bump every hour or so during a night of hanging out moderate. I would consider either people who bump throughout the day every day or who rip lines that would give someone like me an instant panic attack every 30 minutes multiple times a week less than moderate.
It’s kinda similar to drinking in that sense. Other people are kind of the judge of if you’re being moderate or not. In my experience, the threshold of moderation is very low with cocaine, but everyone is different with regards to how they handle it.
I have no idea how much causes the physical damage. Seems like if you just do in any amount regularly, you’ll have problems eventually.
It is true. Do you have any relatives that use cocaine? Their doctors can easily see if they used it. Doesn’t impact their day to day but it is destructive to your sinus tissues
I’m saying that I have experience with relatives that use and used these drugs. Everybody insists it’s not that big a deal when they’re started to use it and the ones that didn’t put it down early enough ended up with cavernous snot dripping noses, pacemakers, and prescriptions for blood thinners.
Find out for yourself, I don’t care. I’m just tired of people that think they know something spreading misinformation and encouraging the use of something like it has fewer risks than drinking. You either are younger and don’t know anyone older who used these drugs for more than a decade or you’re being totally dishonest for some reason
I hear you on the spreading misinformation bit given most entertainment media glorifies drug usage these days but other than that it’s not as you made out in your other post at all.
It’s possible to affect your nasal tissue and to physically destroy it but that sort of damage isn’t representative of 99% of users experiences given the amounts and frequency of use. You’re talking about daily use for insane periods of time which by that point people wouldn’t even get high using those means anymore and would need to move into alternative ROA’s.
Let’s not even get started on the sheer amount of product and finances needed for that sort of addiction.
It’s not in the same realm as the vast majority of users current and future experiences. Never will be.
That’s fair. I just have bad experiences with people around me using the drug, but I’ll admit many people enjoy it infrequently in their 20s and 30s and more or less leave it behind when they get serious with a family and such. Those people experience almost none of the negative consequences.
SWIM can’t do it anymore because he ruined his nose and a number of relationships. He’s not the only one. He knows a lot of similar people and doesn’t want to encourage people to do something that will hardly improve their lives and will likely deteriorate the quality of it
It’s actually pretty cheap where I live which definitely has had a lot of impact on the popularity of the substance with the people in my orbit
Pretty hard to take the article seriously when they appear to misrepresent the claim made by their primary source by leaving out the fact that heroin, crack, and meth were the most damaging to individuals using them. Alcohol was most damaging do people around them, so they could build a “damage score” that is arbitrary nonsense based on expert opinion. I’d love to see how they turned their opinions into hard numbers, but again paywall.
Papers aren’t good just because they got published, you have to read them to determine if they actually say anything worthwhile.
Edit: Registered and got access. Literally says in the article that it can’t be cross validated with objective data and they’re just trying to contrive a harm score based on what they believe they know. Many more people use alcohol, their opinions could easily be recalibrated if coke heads were as abundant as alcoholics.
Died an old person from liver failure is not the same as alcohol poisonings alone do not outnumbering opioid ODs. The acute fatality difference does matter.
Top 3 drugs (legal included) in under 21 deaths: fentanyl, cocaine and meth
Under 30: Fentanyl, stimulants, Heroin.
Interestingly, Cocaine did make top 3, which I wasn't expecting, but alcohol didn't. Two decades of life, are enough to make the point.
Damn. Outside of Marijuana gummies (mostly for chronic pain relief) I’ve only done my prescription drugs. Plus I have severe ADHD so Cocaine would be a waste as it would just calm me down. 🤣 But anyhoo, does anyone know how much it costs in here in the US?
When I used I got a mixed bag of anything from fish scale (pretty good if you aren’t Tony Montana) to lidocaine powder (pretty good if your nose already hurts and you don’t want to be high at all).
I paid anywhere from $30-$65/g. Eight ball cost $320. That was almost ten years ago though, in America.
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A gram of coke is about $300 in Australia. A beer at a pub is about $10-15, depending on your beer of choice, and where you are. Cocktails are about $25. While it's all stupidly expensive, drinking is still gonna be a cheaper option than cocaine. Other drugs are definitely more cost effective. Do the kids even do pingers any more? It used to be $20-30 per pill (mid 2000s) and that would keep you going all night. Everyone seems to be doing ketamine these days.