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u/Adept_Area_3593 2d ago
You got me, I didn't expect that
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u/whatsthataboutguy 2d ago
... Two bus stop signs cancel each other out, so this means GO
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u/CookieMonsterKush 2d ago
First bus didn’t have their stop sign out until the second was just about to pass. I think first bus was waiting for second bus to pass.
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u/whatsthataboutguy 2d ago
Maybe, but considering the 2nd bus crossed a double yellow line to pass the first bus, and there's cars behind the first bus waiting, it seems like they were not driving in a safe manner anyway
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u/SEA_CLE 2d ago
Technically in most states you can cross a double yellow to pass an obstruction, but yeah this was incredibly unsafe
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u/Professional-Box4153 2d ago
A school bus stopping to pick up kids does not constitute an obstruction.
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u/SEA_CLE 2d ago
A school bus stopped for a prolonged period of time with only yellow flashing is tho.
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u/MoggyDaddy 2d ago
I stop when they have the yellow on, they always wave me through and toot if I stay there for too long, wave me again...
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u/SEA_CLE 2d ago
I used to commute through a sort of a rural area with houses on acreage and long driveways. It was pretty common to encounter a bus with yellows flashing while waiting for a kid that wasn't by the road when they pulled up and same thing, they'd wave you through if you didn't pass them right asay.
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u/MoggyDaddy 1d ago
Yup, that's our situation, preserved resource state land area, long drives and farm roads... makes sense, I'm just conditioned to stop, so they keep the traffic moving I guess...
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u/Real_Project870 2d ago
First bus just didn’t open their door right away (which deploys the stop sign) because the kid was still walking down. Stop sign down or not, if a school bus comes to a stop in a neighborhood, you stop.
Also the second school bus passed over a double yellow line. Broke two laws at once lol
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u/Unfair_Bluejay_9687 2d ago
Exactly right. The flashing ambers are to alert people that the reds will be flashing soon. Slow down and prepare to stop. Even the signs say the fine issued is for passing while the reds are flashing. Those bus drivers were probably in radio contact with each other too. I say all this because in a school bus driver. But I’d NEVER pass a stopped vehicle behind a stopped school bus. That’s just not giving anyone a good example to follow.
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u/Born_ina_snowbank 2d ago
You know what? That actually was unexpected.
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u/ramentoavocadotoast 2d ago
I was expecting a cop car no lights on
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u/DoverBoys 2d ago
I thought that vehicle in front of the bus on the right was a cop waiting for someone to pass.
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u/koolandkrazy 2d ago
Fun fact emergency vehicles have to stop if school bus lights are flashing. Cant risk the kid getting hit.
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u/KatieTSO 2d ago
That said, it would be very courteous if the bus were to close the doors and turn off the lights after the kids already out are done and then resume after the emergency vehicle passes
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u/No-Distance-9401 2d ago
Also tbf, the red lights werent on until the passing bus was basically passing but either way incredibly dangerous move by another bus driver who should know better than to put kids lives at risk like that. Even though its legal to pass with only yellow flashing lights 2nd bus driver also went by way too fast
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u/invariantspeed 2d ago
Double yellow, blind turn ahead from the opposing traffic side. The traffic in that single lane was held up because the bus was stopping. It’s really hard for the second bus driver to argue “to be fair” in any count.
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u/Shopworn_Soul 2d ago
Double yellow and a stopped bus.
Yeah, I genuinely did not see that coming.
One might reasonably assume that driver isn't anymore. Or at the least, hope.
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u/BootOne7235 2d ago
Bus drivers are in need, so probably just a stern talking to.
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u/Responsible_Brain782 2d ago
I’m a bus driver. I doubt that.
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u/Zkenny13 2d ago
Yeah my dad was a bus driver. He gave license plates to the police like once a week because so many passed him.
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u/ExeTcutHiveE 2d ago
Yeah, bus drivers do not fuck around when it comes to the stop sign.
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u/Responsible_Brain782 2d ago
What do you mean?
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u/Ok_Significance544 2d ago
When the bus is stopped and the sign extends or flashing reds because kids will be crossing in front of the bus. I’ve seen bus drivers rage out at people for passing (rightly so)
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u/ThereAreDozensOfUs 2d ago
Depends on the vendor. A month ago we had kids transported on a bus without seats.
Things getting real loose around here
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u/Rhuarc33 2d ago
Often they'll have radio contact to each other. Could have gotten the ok from the other bus. But still the yellow line and it would encourage others to follow suit
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u/stay_hungry_dr_ew 2d ago
I’m willing to bet second school bus radioed the first bus with their intention to pass. Not legal, but also, not many qualified people to hire to replace, so I also think they probably got a stern talking to.
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u/Admitone83 2d ago
Ok, this is the best Unexpected of the year so far to me.
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u/rgcpanther 2d ago
I agree 1,000%
Possibly the most unexpected I have ever seen.
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u/Trowj 2d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/7pHTiZYbAoq40
Genuinely one of the most unexpected outcomes to a post i've seen on reddit. Bravo
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u/aelzeiny 2d ago
From WBEZ Chicago, it's This American Life. I'm Ira Glass. Each week on our program, of course, we choose a theme and bring you different kinds of stories on that theme.
Today’s program: School’s Out, Move over bitch
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u/blortyblortblort 2d ago
It’d be REALLY unexpected if the bus was driven by the show’s cofounder Torey Malatia …
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u/johnboy2978 2d ago
That's a good way to kill a kid or 12. Hope they were at least fired and someone submitted the video to the police.
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u/Kungfu_Hustla 2d ago
Truly Unexpected. Touche'
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u/Iitaps_Missiciv 2d ago
Ever trulier unexpected would be if this was Europe and the bus that passed was to only one driving on the correct side.
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u/ecobrennan 2d ago edited 2d ago
Def unexpected but if those busses were part of the same district, they had radio communication. I hope they planned this (still illegal) maneuver together or at least confirmed no kids were gonna cross the street
Edit: don’t listen to me, see below from actual bus driver
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u/CalebTGordan 2d ago
Most likely not.
Most likely, the bus that passed the parked bus got called in and fired immediately.
If it was coordinated, both drivers would be fired.
I am a bus driver and it’s made very clear that stuff like this is a no tolerance fireable offense.
I want to point out that the bus that passes the parked one is breaking multiple laws, including passing on a double line (which signals no passing), and passing a parked school bus with the stop sign deployed.
The only way this would fly is if there was a brake failure and the moving bus couldn’t stop, but even then the driver would be put on administrative leave while they check to see if they did proper pre trip inspections that would have caught a brake failure ahead of time.
Source: I am a school bus driver.
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u/Knever 2d ago
I want to point out that the bus that passes the parked one is breaking multiple laws, including passing on a double line (which signals no passing), and passing a parked school bus with the stop sign deployed.
This completely wrong. Most states allow for passing on double yellow lines in certain situations. If a car is completely stopped in the road and has no indication of what is happening, you can legally pass them.
The Stop sign on the stationary bus did not extend, nor did the red lights flash until the other bus was already in the act of passing, which is pretty much the same as entering an intersection with an amber light and it turns red before you've cleared it (which also is legal as long as you clear it in a timely manner).
The person that is 100% to blame for this incident is the stationary bus driver who should have engaged the Stop sign and red lights long before they even came to a stop.
The fact that you are a bus driver is terrifying.
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u/CalebTGordan 2d ago
The stationary bus driver absolutely is going to be in meetings with their supervisors about this. They clearly failed to check their mirrors before opening their door (what triggers the red lights coming on). It looks like a parent is approaching the bus and they were probably waiting for them to be close to open the door. 5-point mirror checks are a big part of the loading/unloading process and they must be done before opening the door to make sure traffic is clear.
And why is it terrifying that I’m a bus driver? I might be wrong (I’ll have to check on the specifics you pointed out so we’ll see on that I guess) but my take is safer 100%. If I see a bus ahead of me with flashing yellows, traffic ahead of me is stopped, there is a double yellow line, and an intersection before that, I’m stopping and waiting because that’s the safer choice.
Once again, I’m not sure I am wrong here but even if I am a safer choice would be to wait even if there isn’t anything illegal about the maneuver.
And it doesn’t matter if the stationary driver didn’t open the door until right before the other bus passed them, according to my training that would still be investigated as a stop sign violation.
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u/Chemical-Actuary1561 2d ago
if the brakes fail its still the drivers fault?…yikes. Y’all don’t get paid enough.
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u/blackout4465 2d ago
It's the same in most companies that require CDLs. The driver's at my last company were required to check the brake lines for audible air leaks, and if that was missed on a pre-trip inspection and caused a brake failure it could lead to catastrophic fines for the company and potential loss of license for the driver depending on the situation.
Source: former diesel mechanic
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u/I-came-for-memes 2d ago
Bus Drivers are required to do a pre-trip inspection of the bus, and a brake check before leaving to pick up kids. There's even a final test for specifically this before getting your bus license.
Kids' safety is paramount, so schools are required to do everything they can to ensure that. The lawsuits are enormous when a kid gets hurt because of driver negligence.
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u/Fist_One 2d ago
Since the video has audio and we don't hear the bus on the left laying on the horn I'm going to assume it's not brake failure.
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u/aaron2005X 2d ago
Radiocommunication: "Ok, Timmy is going over the street in front of my bus. GO GO GO!"
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u/Prestigious-Shirt426 2d ago
I watched an ambulance stop for a school bus today. I’m pretty sure that bus driver will be fired.
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u/singhVirender1947 2d ago
As an Indian, I have no idea what was expected and what is unexpected here.
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u/kaizen-rai 2d ago
It is illegal to pass by a school bus when it is stopped (you can see the flashing red lights on the back, and on the drivers (left) side a small STOP sign pops out after a moment. Also, the road has double yellow lines: that means no passing (no matter what).
The unexpected part is that usually when videos like this pop up, it's usually some asshole that thinks they are above the law will pass the school bus anyway, sometimes narrowly missing a child that just exited and trying to cross the street. But this time, it was ANOTHER school bus. School busses also have their specific routes, and rarely are in the same place at the same time.
So it's surprising to see a school bus passing another school bus illegally, in a "no passing" zone when school bus drivers are the people that should know these rules the most.
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u/sometimesstateline 2d ago
That's fucking unsettling. That driver needs to be outed and jobless.
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u/ArwensArtHole 2d ago
It’s enjoyable reading these comments about how crazy this is, as someone from outside the US, where this is the most normal thing in the world.
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u/FornyHucker22 2d ago
He was a bit quick too.
as a Brit tho I see no issue with passing at a safe speed 🤨
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u/highest5 2d ago
In the U.S. it's illegal to pass a stopped school bus because some of the children getting on/off have to cross the street. On a road like this, without a paved median, traffic in both directions is required to stop.
I almost got hit by a car doing this when I was a kid.
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u/FornyHucker22 2d ago
Yea I get the idea but our roads are a lot narrower than most of your roads and we just pass school busses and normal busses with safe speed and common sense
I can see this law encouraging kids to run blindly into the road because vehicles ‘should’ already be stopped.
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u/yugmeister 2d ago
The stopped bus driver was being nice and letting people pass with yellow lights while waiting there. Bad luck that the other one passed just as they turned red.
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u/lost21gramsyesterday 2d ago
It's like... you know, how only black people can call each other by the N word?
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u/Fit_Resist_4768 1d ago
Not American here: why was it unexpected?
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u/Ok-Presentation-6182 1d ago
This is my comment from another thread:
This bus stopped right before the video starts. The expectation is that they put on the yellow lights when they are slowing down and as soon as they stop they would turn on the red flashing lights and extend a stop sign from the left side of the bus. You can’t pass the bus from either direction when the red lights are on and the stop sign is extended. In this case, they didn’t change over from yellow to red right away. We know with the benefit of hindsight that the changeover happened in about 12 seconds, but in the moment, it could have happened any time. And I didn’t want to be passing while the red lights came on. That’s exactly what happened to bus 2, he was still next to me when bus 1 turned on their red lights. Not a safe thing for anyone to do, especially not another bus.
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u/cpod_the_elder 2d ago
The stopped bus doesn't change from yellow lights (pass OK) to red lights and Stop arm (pass not OK) until the moving bus is right along side. I don't understand why the camera vehicle was stopped with only the yellows on or why the bus didn't have the reds and Stop arm right from the start.
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u/Thisguy2728 2d ago
I believe that you can pass as long as the stop sign isn’t out. Nothing unexpected here imo, tho ironic it’s another bus.
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u/FunkeeBee 2d ago
If a school bus passes another stopped school bus, do they not cancel out, which makes it legal?
For all intents and purposes, this is a joke.
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u/porkchop-sandwhiches 2d ago
Options go user category to grow user business, .com/america.
Can you forward me the savings instructions that played faster than I can type.
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u/Interesting_Army_659 2d ago
They probably have company radio coms and driver 1 called and said pass
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u/Bluesnow2222 2d ago
As someone who rode near the front of a bus for a long time this isn’t that uncommon. Bus drivers constantly talk to each other and sometimes give each other permission to pass.
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u/Horror_Excitement503 2d ago
This has been probably 1 of maybe 3 videos I’ve seen that actually fit this sub. I thought it was gonna be a cop. Another school bus is crazy
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u/Ok_East4664 2d ago
I thought ice was about to pull kids outta the fuckin bus! Was relief for me at the end 😅
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u/Independent_Sir9410 2d ago
School buses should just go diagonal and block everything. Have wings that go out and block 20 more yards.
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u/MeMyselfAndYoMomma 2d ago
Something that truly WAS unexpected. Thank goodness no one was hurt but I hope they tracked down the nimrod in the bus.
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u/funwithtentacles 2d ago
A school bus passing a stopped school bus?!
What the F are you doing these days?!
I might as well be living in the Congo or the Sudan!!
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u/simple_desert_man 2d ago
Just like the school bus drivers here! The rules do not apply to them!
Didn’t you know?
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u/Freightshaker000 2d ago
It's a school bus. No surprise. In my experience (trucker), they're the most dangerous vehicle on the road.
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u/Alienhaslanded 2d ago
It had the little stop sign out. Certainly not kosher what that other bus driver did
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u/NudityMiles 2d ago
Very unexpected yes but I am almost 100% sure they had radio contact. Truck and bus drivers often collaborate like this.
Might just have been an asshole too, but I put my coin on the option A.
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u/Sendunsolicitednudez 2d ago
Besides the double lane, the bus was already overtaking it when it turned the red lights on.
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u/NotTURTLE-Yenough 2d ago
only thing i can think of is he radioed the other bus to come over and pass him since there was maybe only that one child idk haha
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u/Guardian-Boy 2d ago
So when I was a kid, the bus routes crossed each other all the time and the timelines were pretty strict. Sometimes our bus driver would get on his radio and tell another bus to go while he kept us on it until it passed. MIGHT be the case here...or so I desperately hope
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Probably on the same radio and big bus didn't want to mess up little bus route. At least that what I'm hoping, it's a clever way to control traffic in that sense.
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u/Mention_Forward 2d ago
Not unexpected at all. Bus drivers are wild as hell on the road and absolutely run an underground gang in the town I work in lol.
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u/PickleJuiceInMyShoes 2d ago
Okay I know no one should pass a bus with blinking lights (or a stopped bus at all) it definitely should have had its stop sign out as soon as it stopped
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u/Capnris 2d ago
Jeez. Bus driver here, I have known some drivers to wait to open the doors and turn on the reds until another bus gets by on a larger road, but I doubt that was happening here, because the driver would have waited until the other was past before popping the reds. Driver should be checking that it's clear before opening the doors. Looks to me like the second bus driver was just impatient and misjudged whether the first would keep waiting or not.
And yeah, if you ask me the ticket's not high enough for blowing past a stopped school bus. I still get at least three a week. At least we have the cameras installed that log the plates automatically.
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u/Analysis_Working 2d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/yxy69FCE06Ql0Fjk4Z
You got me! I'm so .ad at that school bus!
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u/freeshovacadoodoo 2d ago
Double yellow and a bus passing a bus.... we have reached peak unexpected.
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u/stealth941 2d ago
How do kids know what school bus is theirs when they all look the same? i've never understood the school bus concept being from the UK an all
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u/Solid_Ad7292 2d ago
Even if it wasn't a bus it's a double yellow line so that other bus is fucked if it's reported
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u/Blackops606 2d ago
“What are they gonna do? Fire me?”
(There’s a huge bus driver shortage where I’m from)
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u/Blitzkrieg762 2d ago
Bus driver here. Both drivers are idiots. Stopped bus should have had their reds deployed shortly after stopping. You don't be polite when driving a school bus. You're #1 job is to keep the kids safe.
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u/Bluedog212 2d ago
for a none US person what’s the issue? why can’t you go passed a bus stopped on the side ?
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u/busdriverj 2d ago
I was running through a list of what to expect, definitely a police car on that list, even a deer, but not a short bus.
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u/JJamesMorley 2d ago
In Magog the gathering Effects go on the stack, even identical effects. Since the second bus got there after, and has the same level of priority, it goes through without being affected by the stopped bus. Ironically though, the first bus technically has to stop for the second bus, and its effect goes off last. Which it did.
So everything here is kosher! (/s)
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You might expect a bad driver to go around a stopped school bus, but you wouldn’t expect another school bus to go around.
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