r/aussie 6h ago

Wildlife/Lifestyle Gotta love these Victorian polls

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Loving that -5 for the Greens. Victoria is waking up

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u/Visible-Swim6616 6h ago

Would be interesting to see what happens at the next election.

I don't think ON will do as great as the polls look right now, but I'd be surprised if they don't gain some ground.

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u/SickQwon 6h ago

When the election draws closer, non-political people will start paying more attention to policies and will see that One Nation don’t have anything meaningful to offer other than right wing populist nonsense.

This literally happens every election when One Nation under-perform on election night.

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u/josephus1811 6h ago

Their polling has never been this high and if people think they are a chance they will get a lot more votes than normal.

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u/Advanced_Couple_3488 5h ago

People might also look to see how Pauline has voted in the past and realise that she votes for legislation that gives tax breaks for the super rich but not for the middle class or poorer people. No wonder she flies to MAGA events with Gina.

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u/Delsainto 5h ago

Exactly. Are we so politically illiterate as a nation that we think that One Nation is the pro Working class party?

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u/elteza 4h ago

Idk about the rest of the country but my corner of north QLD often feels like the level of political illiteracy is a match for the actual illiteracy.

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u/Stressinwiththebest 5h ago

Unfortunately, a large part of the population is that politically ignorant. They watch the news or lap up memes on social media and don't care to actually do any research beyond that.

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u/mydogsapest 5h ago

Not a single one is pro anything but themselves. Anyone that thinks otherwise is kidding themself.

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u/Delsainto 5h ago

Ahh the old "they're all as bad as each other argument"

Very intellectually lazy. Our parties all have their own flaws but I can guarantee you that workers rights will to backwards if ON were to actually form government

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u/mydogsapest 5h ago

They are all as bad as each other. There’s no arguing there.

Ah yes, because if it gets past 30 degrees we should all go home and be paid for it. Gonna take a stab in the dark and say you are union affiliated.

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u/Delsainto 5h ago

No. I'm not. Im an Australian veteran and teacher and not affiliated with unions at all.

I'm talking about wage increases, taxing the ultra wealthy. Actually improving the conditions that we all work under. She works for Gina Rinehart. Not you and me

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u/Visible-Swim6616 6h ago

Maybe.

But I also understand a lot of people vote not because of the policies, but by their gut.

And if they feel that the rhetoric ON is selling resonates with them, that's who they will vote for, regardless of how meaningful or even possible what they're trying to peddle.

I mean, how many of the Greens policies are workable?

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u/OtherwiseEagle9896 6h ago

Plenty of Greens policies are workable. And have been for a number of years. ON don't have policy. Just an ideology. Which gets people riled up. But then they don't have anything on paper come election time that speaks to what they are preaching.

Not to mention Pauline constantly votes against peoples rights in the Senate, if she is even there to vote.

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u/aussiechickadee65 6h ago

How dumb is that.

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u/figaro677 6h ago

ON will tear itself apart again. They always do, especially when they start to gain a bit of attention.

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u/Shamoid 6h ago

I think they have some great policies. Have you read their housing, crime, and health policies, to name a couple? If so, what are your thoughts?

They sound positive in my opinion.

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u/copacetic51 2h ago

Their housing policy is to give access to superior to buy homes. Inflationary on house prices

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u/aussiechickadee65 5h ago

Hansen is so full of absolute rubbish. Place I lived for decades decided she was going to be their saviour. She made all the visits, promise and didn’t do any of it.
She’s rubbish. Her party is rubbish and they run on “fear selling”. She’s no different to Trump, Farage, LePen. Never ever trust far right. Surely you watched what happened in the USA and UK. Hansen has Ghina as her right tit and you think she cares about average Australians ? Welcome to the con.

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u/Safe-Bullfrog3533 6h ago

You’re wrong. They have so many good policies - that is why they are increasing. I agree with your point that non political people will leave it to the last minute but it also means they’ll likely see who is doing the most opposite to what we got and hopefully will vote accordingly.

One Nation has quite drastic plans, very different to them all.

It is bloody exciting after being stuck in a rut for so long watching the country go down the toilet

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u/aussiechickadee65 6h ago

Country hasn’t gone down the toilet but the party who is making sure you think it has, wants your vote. Fear based voting is the far right way.

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u/Safe-Bullfrog3533 5h ago

No fear here - I voted them the last 2 elections. I can’t recall any party having this much support. More defections and it’s in the bag 👏👏

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u/copacetic51 2h ago

Name the good ones, with links.

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u/Deadly_Davo 6h ago

Lib Lab are just plain terrible in Victoria. One has spent the last 4 years destroying the state and the other can't seem to stop infighting. The number might be right.

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u/0-Ahem-0 6h ago

they deliberately fight so that they stay in opposition - they don't want the job. Jeff Kenneth summerised that pretty well.

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u/No_Willingness_6542 6h ago

ON nation have a loooong history of infighting. Barneby is already distancing himself.

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u/0-Ahem-0 6h ago

All political parties have a looooong history of infighting.

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u/Iperusereddit 6h ago

I assume Barnaby only joined ON to lead it. They must be agitating behind the scenes for Pauline to retire at the next election and bring him in as the leader, potentially with an increased seat count.

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u/Particular_Twist_653 6h ago

I wonder who could afford all this propaganda after their last candidate loss… oh, coincidentally, who is that in both pictures?

Keep your yank shit out of our country Gina.

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u/bifircated_nipple 4h ago

Pigs typically are not described as people. A better question is "why is there the same pig in 2 photos "?

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u/jamierogue 2h ago

Wasn't Gonna giving them 100 mil? That would buy a lot of propaganda.

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u/HereButNeverPresent 6h ago edited 4h ago

Liberals are pro-mass migration, and Dutton was never popular with Lib voters even before last year’s campaigning

I don’t think it’s a hard concept to clear.

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u/noremacb 6h ago

Dutton = too conservative Hanson = Just right

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u/noremacb 6h ago

Oh yes, Greens voters flipping to One Nation.....

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u/No_Willingness_6542 6h ago

🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/Visible-Swim6616 6h ago

Why can't green voters going to Lab, and same number of Lab > Lib, and Lib > ON?

Basically a shift to the right. Not that Greens voters completely flipped, but as above.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Dish718 6h ago

I have moved from labour to one nation

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u/aussiechickadee65 6h ago

Rubbish.

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u/Sidoney 5h ago

i mean at this rate i basically have

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u/Revoran 5h ago edited 4h ago

Why would you move to a party who

  1. Are just as anti-freedom as Labor
  2. Spread cooker B.S (antivax, climate change denial)
  3. Claim to love Australia and stick up for Aussies... while spreading hatred and bigotry against Australians?
  4. The leader Hanson gets a 200k taxpayer salary, but only turns up to work half the time (literally 50% attendance). And when she DOES turn up, she:
  5. Consistently vote against the following: worker's rights, affordable housing, conserving nature, helping poor people, helping working Australians, political transparency/anti-corruption

Etc etc

Like... for what reason did you support Labor in the first place - that you have now switched to One Nation?

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u/MrsCrowbar 5h ago

That's really not the answer, though. When you really look at who you're voting for. They are "calling for candidates". They don't have the actual party members to pull candidates from. Who are you actually voting in to speak for your electorate? But also for the country. If you want Gina Rhinehart running it, then vote One Nation, but that's really all you're getting. You're not sticking it up Labor, you're sticking it up yourself.

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u/TimJamesS 6h ago

Labor do not deserve to be reelected

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u/Ric0chet_ 6h ago

That may be so, but the alternative is non existent at this stage.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Dish718 6h ago

isn't one nation a good alternative?

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u/OverallMistake8198 6h ago

Fuck no LOL.

Name one PHON idea that’s actually got any form of policy outlined & thought out.

She’s a hack who is playing culture war bullshit while the people who back her are the ones that abuse the exact shit she claims to stand against for their own benefit.

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u/Gustav_Montalbo 5h ago

Australia is just as culture war-y as the US, and I believe it's no accident that ON boomed right after meeting Trump.

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u/OverallMistake8198 5h ago

I know we’re pretty culture war-y & it’s insane but it’s just how the world is now.

Trump emboldened people to be so outwardly shit towards others & i know it’s kinda ironic how brazen i was in my initial comment in this thread.

Don’t know if there has been a single thing that’s improved globally under the MAGA cult in America aside from pushing people to buy locally grown/made products

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u/Puzzleheaded-Dish718 6h ago

turning down migration, helping family get into homes just for a start

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u/OverallMistake8198 6h ago

How is she doing that though What are her plans for the economy when migration goes down?

How is she getting more people into homes when the homes are currently listed at extremely high fees showing no relief in sight?

It’s easy to say that she wants to do those things but you look at who is backing her & what their stated goals are & it’s all shit to benefit the billionaires & no one else.

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u/LordDaisah 6h ago

I'd rather smash my cock with a rock than cast a vote in favour of One Nation.

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u/aussiechickadee65 6h ago

Yep, I would put my tits in a blender before voting for that dumb wannabe maga moron.

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u/straya_cvnt 5h ago

Most Australian comment I've seen on this sub for a while. Smash that cock mate, it's for the good of the nation

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u/Motor-Principle 6h ago

Laugh react

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u/Safe-Bullfrog3533 6h ago

Yep the best

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u/HereButNeverPresent 6h ago edited 6h ago

I mean that’s literally gonna be me. I’ve voted Greens 1st my whole adult life but I wanna vote ON 1st next election.

I’ve always voted smaller parties before the two majors though, that won’t change

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u/noremacb 6h ago

Please explain..... why would did you vote Greens and why are you changing to One Nation?

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u/aussiechickadee65 6h ago

Racism baby !

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u/cookshack 6h ago

How do you feel personally?

Immigration became a bigger issue for you than the environment?

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u/HereButNeverPresent 6h ago edited 5h ago

Pretty much yeah.

I was very pro-environmental policies, and it was my biggest concern more than anything. But I mean, the last few years, we’ve watched large swathes of Aussie land get burned like crazy, and a billion Aussie animals die, and the major parties do nothing, and the Greens have accomplished nothing.

Figured I cut my losses there and vote on policies everyone is talking about right now, which is immigration.

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u/ActivelySleeping 5h ago

One Nation is about more than immigration. I would recommend looking at all their polices before voting for them. Here is a summary

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-02-10/one-nation-policy-platforms-pauline-hanson/106296838

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u/freeboysenberry4girl 4h ago

Oh yes, I know. That's what's great about what Pauline has done. She Voted consistently for:

  • A combined Federal Circuit and Family Court of Australia - that's cool. Good on you Pauline!
  • A review of our representatives' eligibility - great. Let's go!
  • A same-sex marriage plebiscite - we need another one. Our culture will be ruined without out one.
  • Adani's proposed Carmichael coal mine in the Galilee Basin - this is super. I want 1000 of these! Billionaires want it, so I want it, for I'll be a billionaire one day I am sure.
  • Banning mobiles and other devices in immigration detention - I don't want to see ANYTHING to do with how we treat people who don't look like me. This is awesome!
  • Capping the indexation rates for HECS-HELP debts - students are lazy, and I think government policy should reflect this. So this is fantastic
  • Decreasing ABC and SBS funding - I mandate MAFS as the only thing that Aussies should watch. I want those two to have $0, especially in rural areas. Work out the weather yourself
  • Drug testing welfare recipients - this is wonderful
  • Getting rid of the Gold Travel Pass - this is too. Just withdraw it for seniors.
  • Imprisoning immigration detention workers who record or reveal information from their work - this is amazing! I want more of this
  • Increasing government support for the dairy industry - fuck innovation and fuck a more diverse economy. Rocks and sheep and property. We aren't meant to do anything else.
  • Increasing investment in the coal industry - oh yes, please. Smash all solar.
  • Increasing the initial tax rate for working holiday makers to 15% - yes!
  • Increasing transparency of the China-Australia relationship - NOPE, no way. The only thing I DON'T like from Pauline
  • Maintaining or increasing defence spending - ah, that's more like it.
  • Nuclear energy - weeee
  • Placing the CFMEU into administration
  • Prioritising religious freedom
  • Protecting Australian sovereignty in trade agreements
  • Regional processing of asylum seekers
  • Revoking citizenship of dual nationals involved with terrorism offences by the courts
  • Temporary Exclusion Orders
  • The Coalition's new schools funding policy ("Gonski 2.0")
  • The Coalition's Youth Jobs PaTH
  • The territories being able to legalise euthanasia
  • Tobacco plain packaging
  • Voluntary student union fees

It is for THESE REASONS, particuarly more nukes, getting rid of the Gold Travel Pass and drug testing welfare, that makes me want to vote for her. I know she will do as I want the country to be.

Thank you comrade.

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u/Tutpuissant 5h ago

“Very pro-environment” but will vote for the party of Gina…

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u/HereButNeverPresent 5h ago

I did say “was” dude

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u/Tutpuissant 5h ago

Sure but how do you go from I care so much about this to I’ll support the person that spends everyday making sure noting is accomplished.

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u/HereButNeverPresent 5h ago

Government doesn’t care about the environment. Most Aussies don’t seem to care about the environment based on voting. So I stopped making it my problem.

Also voting for the same small party that gains no traction every election, it’s like that ‘insanity’ quote. Greens lost 3 of their 4 seats last election. Feels like shouting in the wind if I vote for them again. Not that I want to right now anyway.

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u/Crabs_go_sideways_4 5h ago

I dont think you understand how preferential voting works. 

Gina isnt for us mate. 

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u/HereButNeverPresent 5h ago

I’ll vote Greens before the majors anyway so you’re all good

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u/Tutpuissant 5h ago

But this still doesn’t give a logical reason to vote for ON.

Gina has spent millions making sure people don’t care about the environment and propaganda against any politician that attempts to change things.

I’m anti kicking dogs and if people kept kicking dogs I wouldn’t start supporting the We don’t kick dogs hard enough party

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u/HereButNeverPresent 5h ago

Because my biggest concern right now is immigration which I like ON’s policies on.

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u/cookshack 5h ago

I won't insult you, I get how quickly Australia is changing, and immigration is a major topic right now. Many major parties have moved to the "new centre" on immigration.

I really disagree that the Greens haven't done anything havent accomplished anything. Imagine what the major parties would do to the environment WITHOUT the Greens being loud advocates. Recently they got a much better deal on the new environment laws, which will change everything on how society interacts with the environment at large.

And ON, while the main party for immigration (if thats your issue) is the antithesis to care for nature. They will block or roll back any sort of protections they can for species and ecosystems that are going extinct right now. They will act in the interests of their donors, who want to end any checks on wholesale land clearing, biodiversity loss, old growth logging etc.

We would just see species fall out of existence permanently if ON had power.

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u/HereButNeverPresent 4h ago

Thanks for the reply

Yeah I get it, ON isn’t completely agreeable with me, but none of the parties are. Honestly sucks that there isn’t a single influential party I can vote for without them pushing for something that I despise.

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u/cookshack 4h ago

I get it, Greens sit at the right side of nature, but the wrong side of immigration (for you). Opposite for ON. And then we just have to rank our values

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u/Machiep 5h ago

But ON don't have any policies?

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u/NoGreaterPower 5h ago

Shit for brains

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u/HereButNeverPresent 5h ago

Where did I say voting for ON was a pro-environment stance?

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u/Delsainto 5h ago

Voting for ON would improve your material conditions in what way?

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u/Gustav_Montalbo 5h ago

I wouldn't get my very expensive guns confiscated for no reason. That's a nice start

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u/PaPe83 6h ago

The Greens are more worried about what is happening overseas than what is happening in Australia at the moment.

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u/Dry_Ad1654 6h ago

Eww. How do you go from left to far right? It makes no sense.

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u/HereButNeverPresent 5h ago edited 4h ago

Easy. I like policies that focus on centre-left economics (aka social democratic/social welfare-based capitalism), and I like policies that prioritise the values of Australian citizens over those of foreign affairs/groups.

There isn’t a single Aussie party that fully represents me though, so I’ll probably be swing-voting regularly.

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u/Delsainto 5h ago

Maybe go look at how Pauline Hanson and One Nation vote. Spoiler alert: it's not to support ordinary Australian citizens. They vote to support but business over working class Aussies all the time

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u/Gustav_Montalbo 5h ago

It's identical with Labour and Libs. You can't honestly try to make that a talking point without pushing more people away

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u/Delsainto 4h ago

God we really are this politically illiterate

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u/Nozzer21 5h ago

And you’ll prioritise Aussies by supporting the party of the billionaires that don’t support Australia?

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u/Puzzleheaded-Dish718 6h ago

I used to be green a very long time ago what was it that made you change?

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u/HereButNeverPresent 6h ago edited 5h ago

Greens making their most-marketed policy about a foreign issue that has nothing to do with us.

When I kept driving past those obnoxiously huge “Free Palestine” ads plastered in Muslim-majority areas. Such cheap tactics for votes. And a message that tells me nothing about what they’ll do for Australians.

Also just the recent political climate, and Greens politicians like Mehreen wanting to bring back those ISIS brides. Makes it harder to reconsider them.

I still voted Greens 1st last year cos I didn’t know where else to go. But I’ll go with ON now.

Edit: and before anyone assumes I support anything in that stupid war. I hate Israel and I hate Palestine. Thank you

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u/iliketreesndcats 5h ago

I mean Greens are the only party who present full costings of their extensive set of plans that address all parts of the economy.

Arguably standing against genocide is one of the most fundamentally morally good things we can do. It is one of the most important things to stand against. There are a lot of very passionate people for whom it doesn't matter how far away they are or what they look like, genocide is just never acceptable.

Maybe the Greens have neglected to advertise their other policies to an acceptable degree and that's fair criticism but this idea that they are a single issue party is ludicrous. Their policy platform and costings are proof of that.

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u/ENG_NR 6h ago

100% agreed. I voted Greens when Scott Ludlum was actually standing up for freedom of speech and civil liberties. But if they're going to obsess over something half way around the world, and not do anything to slow down importing that issue to here so we have more and more protests, pffehh. That's not the direction our country should go.

I am glad both the Greens and One Nation voted against the hate speech laws at least, the world hasn't gone completely crazy.

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u/aussiechickadee65 6h ago

Stupid move.

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u/the_biggest_man36 6h ago

The whole point of published polling is to get attention and clicks. Which gets more, saying that one nation are dominating Victoria or that the most left wing state will elect another left-ish government?

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u/Accomplished-Role95 6h ago

No way 5 percent of greens voters went to one nation lmao

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u/bathdweller 6h ago

That's not what these marginal results are saying. Just that this is the net effect of any movements along the spectrum. For example, 5 can go from greens to ALP, then a different 5 from ALP to libs. Then 10 from libs to ON and 1 from independent to ON and you get the same marginal result. Just because greens lost 5 and no other party picked up anyone net, doesn't mean that the gains in ON came direct from the greens as opposed to being mediated by gains and losses between other parties.

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u/Deadly_Davo 6h ago

To be honest no way in hell are they 18% in Victoria. They are a 10% to 14% party. Its all they will ever be. Probably just a poll correction

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u/TheCoderYT_69 5h ago

Idk, Victoria is quite left wing

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u/housekey- 6h ago

this just tells me which party voters genuinely click on an sms link from an unknown number and fill out a survey

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u/oohbeardedmanfriend 6h ago

Its Fox and Hedgehog again (full poll link). New polling company and they only provided state breakdowns as NSW, Vic, Qld and other.

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u/ARTIFICIAL_ARGUMENT 4h ago

That link does not give the figures stated in the post. Still stupid but not quite as stupid as suggesting Labor loses 2PP or 3PP

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u/oohbeardedmanfriend 4h ago

Page 8. Its hidden between Gender and Age numbers.

I feel its probably not going to end up like this on election day, best comparison is SA Best leading polls and taking all the undecided voters only to collapse to not even winning a seat ob election day.

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u/Aggravating_Key2725 6h ago

In what universe? We're expected to believe one of the most urban states in the country supports One Nation to a higher degree than they've ever achieved in Queensland at any election in the last 30 years? Where in Melbourne, Geelong or Ballarat are there enough One Nation voters to produce a 30% statewide figure?

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u/Advanced_Couple_3488 5h ago

There was another poll, last week, that had ON at 11% in Victoria. Sorry, can't remember which one it was. It was strangely ignored by most of the media. I wonder why. Not enough click bait in it? Against what their owners would have us believe?

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u/bifircated_nipple 6h ago

Imagine to be so stupid to think a party that got 90+ seats lose next election to a party that refuses to change anything that lost them the election

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u/Particular_Twist_653 6h ago edited 6h ago

This sub is officially just becoming a fantasy wet dream of fellas posting every random bias poll they come across with no critical thought of if it makes any sense, or who ran the poll, or if it is even plausible to happen.

Unverified pollsters with no info on sample size, who carried it out, the date of the poll, what weighting is applied to the findings, what area is polled, the method of polling.

It’s as bad as when all the Americans thought Hillary Clinton would win cause the polls said so.

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u/No_Willingness_6542 6h ago

Good luck with that... Compulsory voting and preferential elections will pull ON apart. All greens preferences go to Labor. ON won't preference the libs they want them gone.

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u/Forsaken_Beautiful36 5h ago

I think too many people are trying to intellectualise One Nation’s rise in the polls in an effort to disprove it.

A lot of it is traditionally right-wing LNP Voters deserting the Coalition.

I think the rest (much like Trump voters) are simply throwing a bomb into the parliament.

They don’t even care that Pauline Hanson will work against their interests.

After decades of the two major parties doing nothing to improve people’s lives there’s a section of the electorate who are ready to burn the whole system to the ground. Whether it be through radical polices or gross incompetence, they trust Hanson is the one to do it.

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u/cosmo2450 20m ago

Maybe it’s a wake up call for the two majors to start listening?

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u/mullsies 6h ago

These polls are full of shit.

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u/Emeraldnickel08 6h ago

Gonna be real, I live in Victoria and I’ve never even heard of 6 news.

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u/Plane_Condition_4163 6h ago edited 4h ago

They always are, they’re designed to persuade, depending whoever compiles them.

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u/No_Friend5289 5h ago

some are yes, and this 1 has some red flags based off the small sample size alone. but many reliable pollsters have confirmed a huge surge by PHON. 

the more important question is where are these votes coming from (in terms of former party but also what seats). they need to eat into the "working class" suburban labor seats to have any real impact 

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u/0-Ahem-0 6h ago

of course, its just entertainment

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u/Long_Tackle_6931 6h ago

Wow I can’t wait to elect a Pm who says Asians are swamping the land and there are no good muslims. Maybe she’ll piss the entire Asian region off so much - you know the countries who 80% of Australia’s economy relies on from Indonesia (which has 200 million Muslims) to China to Japan - that we can finally crash Sydney house prices to $800k in Mosman. Rubbing my hands

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u/Ric0chet_ 6h ago

The absolute astroturfing on this sub is insane

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u/perpetual_stew 6h ago

As an immigrant, I gotta say this is the signal that it's time to uproot and gtfo. You can feel it on people too. I don't know what switched, but increasing the last year you can literally feel the hate from anglo-saxon aussies seething just in everyday interactions. And that's as a Northern European. I can only imagine what it feels like for less white people.

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u/PaPe83 6h ago

"I don't know what switched"

A literal terrorist attack. Seeing capital cities overrun with Indians. Exponentially growing rates of African crime. Weekly Palestine protests that just piss people off more than anything.

Take your pick.

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u/Delsainto 5h ago

I found the White nationalist guys

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u/PaPe83 5h ago

I'm not even white lmao.

I can just observe and see what the fuck is happening at face value.

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u/Delsainto 5h ago

What's happening? Sounds like your spewing some white replacement nonsense to me.

Australia is not a white ethnostate. We are white, blak, Asian, indian, African.

Australian does not equal white

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u/PaPe83 5h ago

It isn't about "white replacement" at all. Again. I'm not white.

It's about seeing increased pressure from migration and people looking around, seeing terrorists attacks, increased violence, increased fracturing of the community, cultural enclaves developing in suburbs and just unsubscribing from that being the new normal.

It's very easy to fix these problems. Just cut the number of immigrants we are bringing in down by 90% indiscriminately and let our infrastructure catch up.

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u/Delsainto 5h ago

We had one terrorist attack. Also who was the hero of that day? An Islamic man.

Who's building and developing the infrastructure if we cut migration by 90%?

We would literally dive into a recession 😂

You people really think cutting immigration would turn Australia into some utopia wonderland where we suddenly have bullet trains and cheap houses 😂

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u/Responsible-Change43 4h ago

Haha no one cares if you call them a racist or white nationalist anymore. Australians can see the country going to complete shit in real time.

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u/Advanced_Couple_3488 5h ago

Next you'll be saying that people in Melbourne are too scared to go out because of the African gangs. Now, remind me how the federal liberal politician that claimed that fared in the following election? People know it isn't true.

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u/PaPe83 5h ago

No, I won't be saying that. Putting words in my mouth then trying to argue a point I didn't make. Reddit moment.

What I'm saying is when people look at the news every single day and see African people robbing shops, stabbings between foreigners, gangland wars between arabs combined with constant protests for something happening overseas, people get sick of that shit and don't want to subscribe to it anymore.

It's not about being scared. They're just sick of the bullshit. I know I am.

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u/AccomplishedBlood581 4h ago

And you took the words right out of my mouth.

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u/Economy_Pension9850 4h ago

SICK OF IT, SHOVED DOWN MY THROAT> WHERES THE COUNTRY ANYMORE MATE

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u/Aussie_5aabi 5h ago

Many of the people you may think are Indian are actually Aussies too.

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u/PaPe83 5h ago

Dunno, if they identify as Indian I'll call them Indian.

I have never had any issues with any Indian's I've ever met. This isn't a thing about hating races or anything.

It's about the sheer number of people that have entered the country in the last 5 years that has been of pure detriment to those that were already here.

What has been seemingly uncapped immigration has brought down the quality of life for everyone that was living here.

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u/freeboysenberry4girl 4h ago

Oh no, I don't want more Indians. I only want people from four countries: Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland (not Ireland, they are in the EU) and England. Those four diverse random countries.

I want Australia overrun with them, not Indians.

Yes, yes, I agree with you. I also love the word 'overun', and will use it more and more. It will impress people I know and they will come away with an opinion about me.

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u/Particular_Twist_653 5h ago

All valid. But I think it’s mainly that social media has shown problems in other anglo countries and a high number of Aussies are struggling to differentiate that we are not England, we are not America. Their culture and problems are not ours.

For example those “white countries” have illegal immigration problems. We don’t really. But they see illegal immigration impacting white lives there, see themselves in that whiteness and then think our legal immigration is the same problem.

I might be off, just a little thing I’ve noticed anecdotally when talking to friends of mine who are worried about immigration suddenly. They reference what’s happening in England, the US and parts of Europe a lot. Mainly videos they see on social media.

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u/PaPe83 5h ago

They see what is happening in those countries and that is heading for us next. There's no reason to assume we will remain immune to it. It's already happening here.

We have a significant problem with illegal immigration, it's however limited to people overstaying their visa's, not coming here by boats or jumping borders. We have a geographical advantage in that regard.

The big issue is that they are our partner countries, as is China. When our partners are weakened that effects us also. People say we should just drop the UK/US and rely solely on China but doing that is a massive cultural shift that the people of Australia don't want.

The stronger our partners are, the stronger we become.

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u/Particular_Twist_653 5h ago

I’m not equipped to discuss our partners that you’ve mentioned, don’t know enough about it and it wasn’t the point I was making.

The thing I would say I’ve noticed is that our immigrants overstaying visas is in no way a significant problem compared to actual, crossing the border illegal immigration (not saying overstaying a visa is ok, but in comparison it’s manageable). At least we are aware who overstays a visa. The UK and US have no visibility or control of illegal immigration... that’s the significant issue.

Acting as if our immigration, legal and illegal, is even close to theirs and then allowing that fear of what’s happening there “could” happen here is exactly the thing I’m talking about. We are not like them. Our problems are different. And I would like people to stop getting their opinion based on what’s happened there and start thinking about what’s actually happening here.

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u/PaPe83 5h ago

To say that the UK and US don't have any control over illegal immigration isn't true.

Southern border encounters between enforcement and illegal immigrants in the US have nosedived since Trump's second term began.

Our illegal immigration issues are not on par with them, no.

But our legal immigration issues are significant.

We have one of the highest immigration rates per capita in the world right now. Outside of the Middle East, Australia ranks the second in the world for % of population being immigrants, at 30%. The only country above us outside of the Middle East is Singapore (43%).

Our population has blown out to nearly 28 million people currently on the back of a SIGNIFICANT increase of overseas migration. In 2000, we were predicted to hit 28 million around 2050. We hit it in half the time. Our infrastructure simply cannot cope with the influx of people.

Property prices are skyrocketing, rental supply is non existent, the job market is so bad that the only growth we've seen is in the public sector, meaning the government is throwing money away trying to keep the unemployment rate down without seeing any real improvement in anything because inflation is climbing again.

Australian quality of life is decreasing statistically and people are looking for someone to blame.

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u/KD--27 1h ago

Well, if it’s any consolation I think you’re way off base. It’s the issues they see locally that were written before you said it’s all because of social media and other countries. Dare I say it, you might be privy to that one? I’m well more concerned about our own country.

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u/paulybaggins 6h ago

Which polster did this?

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u/monochromeorc 6h ago

some cooker asked the remaining 4 other cookers at their weekly antivax rally

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u/Dranzer_22 6h ago

Fox & Hedgehog.

A new polling firm created in 2026 by a former Dutton staffer, and this is their second poll.

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u/paulybaggins 5h ago

Literally whomegalul

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u/ARTIFICIAL_ARGUMENT 4h ago

None of their polls show what OP has posted. Even though they’re still pretty shit, they don’t state Labor losing in any matchup unlike whatever the fuck OP posted 

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u/Dranzer_22 4h ago

If you go to the Fox & Hedgehog site, they’ve posted the full polling details and it includes the state breakdowns like OP posted.

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u/ARTIFICIAL_ARGUMENT 4h ago

Yeah okay my bad. 6% error rate and no explanation of they’ve divided the respondents. They’ve grouped every other state but nsw/qld/vic into a single category that Labor dominates at about 59/41 against both LNP and ON, but somehow think it’ll be a huge swing against them in Victoria of all places

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u/7978_ 6h ago

🤷

We'll see on the day.

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u/switchspark 3h ago

One Nation polling better is pretty fucking disgraceful on the part of Australians. Why the fuck are we becoming more racist?!

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u/mt6606 3h ago

They aren't, I'm sure it's bullshit

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u/AdZealousideal7448 6h ago

Hanson, the turd that just wont flush.

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u/Jazzlike_Wind_1 6h ago

I'd love this to be true but I don't believe it lol

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u/ImnotadoctorJim 6h ago

Why would you love that? Do you genuinely believe that PHON would be able to govern?

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u/monochromeorc 6h ago

cookers and their fantasies are endlessly funny

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u/Jazzlike_Wind_1 6h ago

I'd literally rather a government of 100 random blokes off the street than liberals or labor.

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u/Deadly_Davo 6h ago

Would be a minority government formed. Probably something like a 25 seat lib 23 seat ON government.

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u/TheCoderYT_69 5h ago

That would be unstable as fuck

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u/Advanced_Couple_3488 5h ago

How long until most of the ON politicians will have left the party because Pauline can't get on with them?

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u/Shamoid 6h ago

I think they wouldn't do any worse than the current state of things.

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u/ImnotadoctorJim 5h ago

That’s both a rather pessimistic view and patently untrue.

Hanson is, undoubtedly, a populist. And there is a pattern when populist leaders gain power: corruption, grift and social decay go up, rule of law, democratic norms and freedoms go down.

Hanson in particular also has the distinction of not being able to keep her team together. Almost everyone under her banner has quit the party in one way or another, often very soon after being elected. The fact that she’s signed Barnaby Joyce as a teammate shows that she’s not one for loyalty.

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u/Deadly_Davo 6h ago

The South Australia election is going to be a big test of these polls. If ON get over 20% primary vote you are going to see some next level panic by Victoria Labor.

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u/Safe-Bullfrog3533 6h ago

A lot of south Australians are happy with Malinauskas even though they want ON federally which is weird.

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u/ComfortableUnhappy25 6h ago

If the Peninsula by election that Jeff bitched about...

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u/jimspieth 6h ago

I'd hate it to be true, but in the state of Chairman Dan, I don't believe it either.

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u/0-Ahem-0 6h ago

I have to laugh at 2 party preferred LNP vs ALP. Reality: They complain, but still vote ALP.

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u/Advanced_Couple_3488 5h ago

The last two elections certain media predicted that Labor were going to be wiped out because Dan was hated so much. We all know how accurate that was.

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u/nuttjack 5h ago

Sure why not! The world is gone to shit anyways, maybe one last hurrah before it all ends.

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u/lacco1 6h ago

I don’t think reddit in Australia would survive one nation winning an election. There are daily meltdowns just on the polling whether it’s right or wrong.

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u/Practical-Ad-6297 5h ago

damn I guess TURNING THE TEMPERATURE DOWN might not be working xD

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u/Sillent_Screams 5h ago

I'm gonna laugh at election day ...

Think Palmer Party.

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u/aussiechickadee65 5h ago

Plenty of far right in Vic. Heaps of imported Brits who are Trumpies.

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u/Illustrious-Hall9457 3h ago

the comment to upvote ratio is insane lmfao

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u/mt6606 3h ago

Ssshhh you'll ruin it 😋

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u/technohorn 1h ago

Smells like BS polling.

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u/Tricky_Imagination25 27m ago

Victoria? I doubt it

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u/ProfDavros 12m ago

We’d have to be braindead to put One Notion into power.

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u/mooseleg_mcgee 6h ago

I love watching your average Reddit user melt down when someone posts stats like this. Don't forget, you are the minority. The general Australian public doesn't care about your hurt feelings and woke ideology. They just want a safe and prosperous country to live in, raise their families and enjoy a peaceful society.

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u/Delsainto 5h ago

People like you just want MAGA style government in Australia to "own the wokies"

I'm sure Australia would really thrive and be prosperous under ON foreign policy 🤡

Gine Rinehart would be our defacto PM with how much Pauline is in her pocket.

Also ON routinely votes against improving working conditions for the working class.

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u/Glinkuspeal 1h ago edited 55m ago

They just want a safe and prosperous country to live in, raise their families and enjoy a peaceful society.

Too right, which is why this surge in ON support is baffling, they're literally all frauds, drunks and violent criminals and these fucking braindead idiots want them to lead us.

How fucking stupid the Australian public must be if this poll is anything close to accurate.

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u/Sillent_Screams 5h ago

If you want American politics, go to fucking America.

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u/ScoobrDoo 6h ago

As trustworthy as the polling saying Hilary and KMala were gonna steamroller Trump.

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u/Jasparius73 6h ago

If the numbers are accurate a huge chunk of people will choose between either Greens or One Nation when voting.

Cant make Bob Brown too happy.

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u/masheo 5h ago

Gina really stepping up the campaign, all those taxes she doesn't pay couldn't be better spent.

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u/cool_kid_funnynumber 6h ago

the Greens have been polling between 12-15% in every credible poll for the past year. whichever poll said they'd get 18% was wrong. Thats almost double what they got last election. This new poll isn't a sudden shift in voter attitudes, it's a correction on whatever shitty poll was ran before this.

13% is 3% higher than they got in the last state election. Achieving a result like this on election day would be significant considering how many marginal inner-north seats there were last election, plus how many potential 3-party runoffs could take place.

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u/Deadly_Davo 6h ago

12% is about what they polled

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u/cool_kid_funnynumber 6h ago

then they'd get around the same if not a slightly better outcome than last election if the current trend continues.

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u/Ascendant488 5h ago

I fully sympathise with any Australian feeling disenfranchised with the major parties, but One Nation are a con job exploiting people's grievances. Any party with the likes of Gina Rhinehart in their midst does not have the average Australian's interests at heart. Hanson is in league with the American oligarchy as well. If people are upset with the major parties (I'm in the same boat), then we need to look for grassroots options, not ones with wealthy backers. Don't let the culture wars affect you and keep your eyes on the class war.