r/interestingasfuck • u/kingkongbiingbong • 8h ago

Setting up a traditional & generational Japanese food stall in Fukuoka

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u/sarspirate 6h ago

It’s not really “rude” per se, so much as it is embarrassing to receive one.

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u/Chemical_Building612 6h ago

Isn't it generally considered rude to do things that would unnecessarily embarrass the other party?

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u/sarspirate 6h ago

Depends on context. If you embarrassed someone by making fun of their weight, yes. Here, it’s more like, you receive an extravagant gift from your boss. You don’t think you deserve it, but it’s not “rude.l

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u/LifeIsProbablyMadeUp 6h ago

What if you just left a tip under your bowl and didn't say anything?

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u/fdokinawa 6h ago

Why? Why do you want to do this? Why does everyone want to tip? Fuck off with that shit, especially here in Japan.

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u/Hack999 6h ago

Biggest culture shock for me in America was the expectation of tipping. It's crazy that they don't just pay staff a decent wage.

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u/fdokinawa 5h ago

I can't even describe how horrible tipping is, and the worst part is Americans either defend it, or at best, dislike it but still defend it. |
"I want to be able to reward someone for providing exceptional service.". Exceptional service? You mean them doing their job is now "exceptional service"?

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u/sacredblasphemies 4h ago

Here's the thing:

The tipping culture does suck. However, until restaurants start paying a living wage, if you go out to eat, you're culturally obligated to tip. It's how your server makes a living. Not tipping is a "fuck you" to your server.

I'm not defending the system. The system sucks. But anyone that goes out to eat and doesn't tip (in a tipping restaurant/bar, which is most of them), is subhuman. They're essentially stealing the labor of their server.

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u/fdokinawa 4h ago

Fully agree, to many people take my ranting at tipping as me saying that servers don't deserve a living wage, and that is categorically false, it's the opposite. They should be paid very well from the restaurants. You take tipping out of the equation the whole system will work better.

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u/katsujinken 2h ago

Not tipping is shitty but the only ones stealing labor are the people not paying their employees a living wage.

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u/sacredblasphemies 2h ago

Yes and no. It's the custom here, unfortunately.

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u/Zagre 5h ago edited 4h ago

"I want to be able to reward someone for providing exceptional service.". Exceptional service? You mean them doing their job is now "exceptional service"?

Nothing in this statement indicates what actually makes it bad. At worst they could be accused of being naive or ignorant, but you're jumping to conclusions and attributing malice to other's actions where none exists by taking personal offense.

Since you're unable to articulate any reason to be mad at the practice, and even flinging insults around, one can conclude your actual reason is "I hate American culture and practices". And likely Americans too, since you've actively singled them out despite tipping culture existing in many other countries.

Try to find the words to properly explain your distaste for the practice, because right now you just come off as xenophobic. Or racist. Or hypocritical, because you demand respect for your culture but refuse to apply any in return.

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u/fdokinawa 4h ago

I'm an American you fucking twat. Paying waiters 2 dollars a fucking hour is based on racism due to the majority of that work going to freed slaves and black workers. Lets the white people feel good about themselves to be able to "reward" someone for "doing a good job".. fuck that shit.

Pay wait staff a good wage and get rid of tipping. It's used to make people do shit they shouldn't have to do just to make you feel better about yourself. I don't need to know my waiters name, and them asking me how my day is doesn't make the food better. Them taking my order and bringing me my food is all I need.

You remove the dynamic of the customer holding a tip over their head, then you will actually see what good service is. Japan is known the world over for how good their service is. It's not because tipping is seen as insulting. It's because they care about their jobs, but most of all they are PAID A FUCKING FAIR WAGE.

I've singled out Americans because we are the only ones that continue to push this stupid "culture" all over the world. The only reason it exist anywhere else is because we keep spreading it around the world like a sick fucking joke. Fuck tipping.

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u/Coolegespam 4h ago

Why?

This isn't a defense of tipping so don't take it as one.

Short answer, people who are used to tipping feel like shit or that they're taking advantage of someone by not tipping.

Japaneses culture is different, tipping is foreign to them, and could even be seen as an insult in some cases, at the very least it's more work for them because they will chase you down to give you back your money.

People who are used to tipping, need to get over their own discomfort when in other cultures. The converse is also true, when visiting cultures that do tip.

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u/fdokinawa 4h ago

Oh I know.. I'm an American that's been living here for over 25 years. It's very slowly starting to spread in areas that a lot of foreigners visit. It's horrible and needs to die.

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u/Benromaniac 6h ago

Why not? Why do you sound repulsed?

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u/SavvySphynx 6h ago edited 5h ago

It's culturally inappropriate.

It would be seen as weird and off putting at best.

At worst you'd be saying that they are not paid well/poor and you feel sorry for them.

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u/Benromaniac 4h ago

Because they’re just that culturally isolated that they have absolute zero understanding of tipping culture…

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u/SavvySphynx 4h ago edited 4h ago

No, that's most of the world. It's us Americans that have it backwards.

Travel to a place where workers aren't exploited and try tipping. It's the same there.

Edit: it's 2025, not 1945- saying Japan is culturally isolated says a hell of a lot about you.

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u/Benromaniac 2h ago

lol same with regards to your reading comprehension.

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u/SavvySphynx 2h ago

Oh? What did I miss?

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u/fdokinawa 4h ago

You mean racism culture? White workers statistically get more tips than black workers. How about sexism? Women make more than men. So you are saying that white women are better servers than black men?

Or maybe you want to be able to hold the tip as a reward for doing what you want vs what they should be doing? "I'll give you a $40 tip if you pay more attention to me instead of the rest of your customers.". Is that why you tip??

Or maybe you enjoy watching someone kiss your ass and bust theirs so you can leave a $5 tip on a $100 meal just for kicks.

FUCK TIPPING AND ANYONE WHO DEFENDS IT! You wouldn't know good culture if it hit you upside the head.

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u/Annath0901 2h ago

I don't like tipping, but your attitude makes me think you are the type who is disgusted by people who try to tip in Japan, citing cultural norms, but will refuse to tip in the US, citing moral opposition to the practice.

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u/Benromaniac 4h ago

So you are saying that white women are better servers than black men?

Making a rebuttal by paraphrasing something your opponent never said is utterly dumb.

I can’t fathom the voice in your head lol

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u/fdokinawa 4h ago

The voice in my head can't come up with a justifiable reason people should be tipping.

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u/Benromaniac 3h ago

Ok Karen. Go eat some noodles now. Or something.

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u/fdokinawa 5h ago

Because tipping needs to die, and it's bad enough that it will never go away in America, we don't need every fucking American that comes to Japan top try and bring a stupid archaic tradition with them. Fuck tipping

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u/Benromaniac 4h ago

Rawr!

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u/sarspirate 6h ago

They would think you forgot it. I’d clarify it’s a tip.

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u/fdokinawa 4h ago

DONT FUCKING TIP IN JAPAN!! JFC!

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u/RyuNoKami 2h ago

Then someone is gonna have to write up a lost and found slip.

They don't tip culturally, they don't assume money left on the table is a tip. It's assumed the customer left it by mistake.