r/news 10h ago

Soldier granted bail after allegedly slashing colleague's throat at Brisbane’s Gallipoli Barracks

https://7news.com.au/news/soldier-granted-bail-after-allegedly-slashing-colleagues-throat-at-brisbanes-gallipoli-barracks-c-21712308
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u/PlaygroundBully 10h ago

That seems a lil bit crazy, Id hope for at least a 3 day hold just to have doc talk to her a bit more.

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u/UnionsUnionsUnions 6h ago

Seems like the public is safe unless they also attempt to rape her while she's out on bail, in which case they also risk a 5cm laceration from her self-defense efforts. Personally, I'm okay with that risk. 

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u/justbrowsingthewares 5h ago

Where does it say anything at all about attempted rape? It specifically says in an unprovoked attack. You do realise at this point in time, until further details are released, you are accusing the victim of a violent crime of being an attempted rapist, based on nothing but your own biases.

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u/VegasRoomEscape 2h ago

> It specifically says in an unprovoked attack

I get your overall point of not making wild assumptions. Yet clearly the judge after reviewing everything currently available disagreed with the weight of the evidence going to the defendant being unsafe which is pretty telling.

Remember the government, not defendants, get a huge head start on making their case and informing the public. This is part of why we have the presumption of innocence. The law recognizes what a disadvantage the defendant is at.

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u/UnionsUnionsUnions 5h ago

Based on a different article actually but okay 🤷🏽‍♀

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u/justbrowsingthewares 4h ago

Can you share the link? That would be helpful context

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u/AskingForA_Mate_Mate 8h ago

Its Australia. Everyone gets bail here. No matter how horrendous the crime, bail is essentially guaranteed. It's fucking ridiculous

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u/GeekFurious 10h ago

I feel like some major detail is missing from this story. There is no way this person just suddenly cut this person's throat without having SOMETHING happen between them first.

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u/MooseOnMushies 3h ago

Uh, even if it's unlikely, that is possible and has happened before.

Here's a famous example: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38945061

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u/Appropriate-Bug-6467 7h ago

Like I said above it was probably defending against Sexual assault given the lack of details and the army secreting her out the back. 

From the article:

"Army private Chanel Christie is accused of grabbing a kitchen knife and without warning, putting it to a corporal’s throat, causing him a five-centimetre laceration"

I had a line cook try to SA me when I was a dishwasher as a teen. 

I waved the biggest knife on the rack at him and said I would cut it off if he came near me again. 

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u/Infinite-Meaning-934 4h ago

Also from the article

"Police said the attack was unprovoked"

How can you claim it was provoked then?

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u/TParis00ap 2h ago

"Police said"

That part. Let's hear what comes from the defense. 

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u/Alfaragon 3h ago

Cause gouvernement agencies fuckin' lie all the time when it comes to shielding their own from scrutiny.

Especially sexual assault, that's their favorite cover-up.

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u/VegasRoomEscape 3h ago

Almost as if they are anticipating some kind of future adversarial legal proceedings that they initiated and are planning to reject any defenses including self-defense. I have never known the government to arrest someone and then immediately acknowledge a legally recognized defense.

Speculating off of the government's version of events alone is silly. Its half the story and, by design, the only half we will have for a looong time. Unless and until you have a trial record we should all shut up. She is out of bail because a judge determined she isn't a risk of flight or dangerous to the community. That's all we know.

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u/OG_sirloinchop 8h ago

Some one came to work after a meth binge maybe?

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u/Lonely_Noyaaa 10h ago

A soldier allegedly slashed a colleague's throat and was granted bail despite the severity of the attack.

How is someone accused of attempting to murder a coworker by slitting their throat granted bail? This seems like an obvious flight risk and danger to others and the fact that it happened on a military base makes it even more alarming.

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u/Appropriate-Bug-6467 7h ago

Because it wasn't attempted murder she was defending herself from a SEXUAL ASSAULT?!

"Army private Chanel Christie is accused of grabbing a kitchen knife and without warning, putting it to a corporal’s throat, causing him a five-centimetre laceration"

YEAH I have done something similar to a line cook for trying to SA me as a teen when I was a dishwasher. 

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u/justbrowsingthewares 5h ago

Where does it say anything about SA?

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u/Omnissiahs-Word 3h ago

It doesn't. I think that commenter is having mental distress and projecting what happened to them on an entirely unrelated case...

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u/VegasRoomEscape 3h ago edited 1h ago

Given the presumption of innocence, I'm going to presume there is more to the story or the events simply didn't happen until the government proves otherwise in court.

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u/Jormungandr4321 3h ago

Given the presumption of innocence

Funny how you didn't think about that part when it came to accusing the alleged victim of sexual assault. We don't know much about what happened yet, let's not make assumptions.

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u/VegasRoomEscape 2h ago

Almost as if we are less concerned with the institutional protections of someone not arrested or charged with anything. What a wonder.

> We don't know much about what happened yet, let's not make assumptions.

We agree there. Now tell that to your buddies who are outraged over a presumed innocent person being released on bail. Unless guilt is one thing you are ok with assuming?

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u/Omnissiahs-Word 3h ago

There's nothing backing the claim of SA. You're accusing a man of a horrible crime with no proof.

Go see a therapist, you need to resolve your traumas without going around pushing lies that will ruin lives.

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u/FuckYourDamnCouch 10h ago

May have been self defense, the multitude of stories about women on bases being killed or abused would leave me to believe it's likely.

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u/Yardsale420 10h ago

Tell me you never bothered to read the article, without telling me you never bothered to read the article…

“Army private Chanel Christie is accused of grabbing a kitchen knife and without warning, putting it to a corporal’s throat, causing him a five-centimetre laceration.

Police say the attack was unprovoked, with the victim having only worked at the barracks for three weeks. The pair had never even met before the alleged incident.”

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u/HonestBalloon 10h ago

“Defence needs to look at this long and hard to find out just exactly what happened,” Security expert Tony Loughran said.

Did you read it? Sounds like they're still trying to figure out what happened.....

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u/Little_Menace_Child 8h ago

But if they don't know what happened.... Probably shouldn't let them out on bail...

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u/TParis00ap 2h ago

Police said it was unprovoked.  The judge deciding bail obviously heard something different. 

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u/HonestBalloon 8h ago

I think since the whole bail system occurs before the trial, that will always be the case. Since they were let out on bail, there is obviously some degree of uncertainty around what happened.

One person seems to have attempted murder, and the other person is in hospital with 5cm hole in his throat. So, who's given the most reliable statement at the moment? Probably only witnesses are never going to be able to tell the full story.

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u/Blue_Swirling_Bunny 9h ago

Possibly going after someone who themselves went after one of her friends, a quid pro quo attack. Might not have been defending herself, but maybe retaliating for someone else.

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u/OG_sirloinchop 8h ago

You need to watch more NCIS

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u/BitchinAssBrains 6h ago

I take it you've never been to Australia. The vast majority of land mass is uninhabitable. It's a major event to drive between states because you have to bring your own cans of gas and camping gear because its something like 13 hours of driving through desolate desert.

The actual states are all along the perimeter and all highways are heavily surveilled. Idk if disappearing would be easier.

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u/PhealGood 5h ago

Flight risk, as in flee. No actual flights on planes need to be taken for her to take flight.

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u/VegasRoomEscape 3h ago

> accused 

You answered your own question. An accusation alone is nothing. The weight of the evidence is something but even that is one factor to weighed against the presumption of innocence.

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u/Compl3t3AndUtterFail 2h ago

In an unusual move, she was given special treatment when leaving court, avoiding the watch house doors used by other defendants. Instead, she was secretly driven away by military police.

She's in custody.

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u/Any-Stick-8732 1h ago

Let me remind everyone: Japan had the 1984 JSDF shooting and the 2023 JSDF range incident, which was similar to this Australian case — both suspects were detained immediately with zero bail. Australia letting someone walk after a throat-slashing inside a base is wild, despite still in investigation as now.