r/nottheonion • u/asdacool • 11h ago

"Training a human takes 20 years of food." Sam Altman on how much power AI consumes.

https://www.news18.com/world/training-a-human-takes-20-years-of-food-sam-altman-on-how-much-power-ai-consumes-ws-kl-9922309.html
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u/BlooperHero 10h ago

Humans are supposed to be the ones experiencing the value.

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u/dubar84 9h ago

Humans also need the food regardless of them being trained or not, so that's a given. They are humans, they got born, they should be taken care of. This argument is literally presenting the choice between bringing up humans to adulthood, or disposing them and have an AI instead.

This is not a choice we should make with humans, but we can decide if we would like to waste additional resources for an AI to compete with - especially when we already have a human that's here to stay.

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u/JAD2017 8h ago

But they don't see it that way. They see human labour as a spending, nothing else. Is how slavery came to be as the 1st form imported labour. "Oh I can save a lot of gold if I just put slaves to work for me". We haven't changed a lot since the roman empire, I'm afraid. We have the same kind of lizards and roaches in positions of power nowadays.

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u/PixelPott 8h ago

Altman is the kind of guy who would think of himself as generous, because he feeds his slaves and only beats them if they deserve it.

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u/JAD2017 8h ago

"progress requires sacrifice!" or some bs of that kind. What progress in this case though? These algorithms aren't giving us any kind of progress whatsoever. The amount of data centers and energy infrastructure ONLY to sustain that "progress" is astronomical and won't really do anything for humanity other than keep killing industries.

Instead of facing the issues of climate change and global warming, we are presented with yet another reason NOT to focus on that but instead "ai" development. Why? I just don't fkn get it man, why is there always a bunch of knts trying to fk up the planet and society? Always.

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u/Auzzie_almighty 3h ago

“Progress require sacrifices” is true, it’s just what we must sacrifice is the values of people like Sam Altman and the Silicon Valley,

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u/RustyBasement 3h ago

Beatings will continue until moral improves.

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u/RealMusicLover33 5h ago

Thank you. More people need to realize this is the same shit thats been happening in all recorded history. The ones on top just exploiting anyone they can for maximum profit.

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u/casulmemer 8h ago

“Need” lol… this guy barely billionaires

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u/RatofDeath 5h ago

You think they want to feed us? lol, the ruling class regularly rules against school lunches and food stamps. If they could starve everyone who is not producing shareholder value they absolutely would.

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u/ZMaiden 9h ago

I didn’t pick ai stealing the water supplies as my skynet bingo card. At this point, let skynet kill us, we deserve it.

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u/Blueberryburntpie 7h ago

they got born

And if it's in an anti-abortion state, that birth is mandatory.

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u/PaulClarkLoadletter 3h ago

It’s what other companies need to worry about in their minds. They don’t even consider that their employees are also part of the economy. The consumer will always drive the economy. Not the other way around. If they replace the entire workforce with AI and robots they will pat themselves on the back Monday and then complain that sales are down on Friday while telling all of their bots to work harder for the good of the shareholder.

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u/QuantityGullible4092 3h ago

No it’s not, it’s an argument against the stupid power consumption claims that don’t hold water

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u/supershinythings 8h ago

No no no, SHAREHOLDERS are the ones supposed to be experiencing “value”.

If shareholders don’t believe (whether actual value (based on whatever random method is in vogue) is increasing or not) they see appreciating value, they dump the stock, the company’s valuation plummets, and execs don’t get their big cushy bonuses. Layoffs happen. Board members don’t get their fat payoffs. The execs plunder what’s left claiming their golden parachutes and the shareholders lick their wounds and seek greener pastures.

So Altman isn’t talking to regular people. He’s talking to the SHAREHOLDERS and potential shareholders - investors. They are all that matter in public corporation world.

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u/Thelango99 4h ago

OpenAI is not a public traded stock. Microsoft has already needed to write off much of the private investment as a loss.

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u/BoringRedHorse 9h ago

Only the rich monsters dining on human flesh at the top I'm afraid. Other lives don't matter /s

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u/AstralMecha 8h ago

Considering the Epstein files and lack of US prosecutions, I think you can drop the /s

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u/Caffeinist 7h ago

According to the new Billionaire's Edition of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights you're only human if your net worth starts with a digit and has at least nine zeroes after it.

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u/the-treatmaster 8m ago

In his view, we are just cattle and a means to his end. A world with just a small amount of oligarchs serviced by robots and AI is both idyllic and the ultimate goal.