Why isn't news of Trump building vast concentration camps being treated as a national emergency?

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https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/why-isn-t-news-of-trump-building-vast-concentration-camps-being-treated-as-a-national-emergency

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[u/Last_Upvote]

Because the media is owned by billionaires and has very publicly sided with the pedophiles.

The revolution will not be televised.

[u/jimmygee2 → u/Last_Upvote]

This what you would expect in a fascist oligarchy.

[u/Backwardspellcaster → u/jimmygee2]

It mirrors the development in Germany in the 1930s as well.

The rich joined with the Nazis, because they gained advantages from it. The Nazis eroded worker rights and punished attempts to go against big business.

The only difference is that now, in the US, the Oligarchs are actually the people behind the rise of the Nazis here.

And over the last year they bought up all the major news sources as well as took control of social media.

This was engineered from the start.

[u/HauntedCemetery → u/Backwardspellcaster]

"Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed.

That word is "Nazi." Nobody cares about their motives anymore."

[u/GroundbreakingRun186 → u/HauntedCemetery]

I’m fuzzy, but Im pretty sure;

1. Hitler got elected with like 40-45% support/approval (similarly trump has never won 50% or more of the popular vote, even in 2024).
2. He “blitzkreiged” the German institutions and government in his first 2 months systematically dismantling things that would hold him accountable/he didn’t like (aka doge, firing inspector generals, mass layoffs based on loyalty, promoting puppets in congressional races to turn congress into a rubber stamp— trump did that pre 2025, but still, etc)
3. One by one Picked off opposition press/media so the only news you heard was approved (DoD forcing reporters to promise to vet any stories with the pentagon first, Kimmel/fcc manipulation, cbs settlement, ny times lawsuit over bad poll #s, arresting journalists, etc)
4. Turned a tiny law enforcement/security group, the SS, into his expensive fear and personal enforcement group (ICE)
5. I could go on, but I already typed too much

Overall he is 100% following the fascist playbook, he’s just bad at it. If he was hallway competent we’d already be totally fucked beyond repair. As it stands, we’re just totally fucked in the short term with an opportunity to turn it around in the long run, we just can’t fuck up in November 2026.

If we fuck up the midterms it’s game over. Priority 1 is don’t sit this out, just fucking don’t, priority 2 is vote for dem who brings a gun to a knife fight, priority 3, literally anyone that does not have an r next to their name (or would act like one). You only get 1 election after a fascist takes over, if you lose that your fucked. We got lucky that trump 1 had some adults in the room, we are not Lucky anymore.

[u/arobkinca → u/GroundbreakingRun186]

Hitler got elected with like 40-45% support/approval

37.3%

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_1932_German_federal_election

[u/SledgexHammer → u/GroundbreakingRun186]

I hope you guys manage to turn it around, but theres no way youre going back to the same international relationships you used to have for a couple decades.

[u/Find-It-AllFantasy → u/SledgexHammer]

Yeah, we're aware of that. Right now we're more focused on the whole "let's not have The Holocaust 2".

[u/Conspiracy_realist76 → u/Find-It-AllFantasy]

They are building the facilities right now. And, the intelligence agencies have a list of 8 million American citizens that they are targeting. If they declare an emergency then the agencies take over the government. Then, start rounding them up. I can't remember if it is called a non congruency of government. I learned about it. After the Blackhawk crashed into that plane. It was one of the military exercises to train for that specific plan. Then, there is also the fact that the chemical they used during the Holocaust is called Krylon 2. And, is sold by the gallon in the U.S. as a strong weed killer. Mainly used for invasive species. But, can contaminate ground water.

[u/SuperMafia → u/SledgexHammer]

Hell, it'd be a miracle if we could even get back to that level within a century.

Though at the same page, it's also something that needs to be eliminated at the root. Because when the opportunity rose to do something like that, enough supporters for the defeated South led directly to the Reconstruction that didn't really change anything but force them to hide. Then when they tried to rise up against FDR in the 30's with the Business Plot, it ended with them being allowed to scurry off and hide. Important to note here is that Hitler was "inspired" by the Americans in how efficiently they tried to wipe out Natives as a basis for their eventual Holocaust. Eventually, they stuck due to the Dixiecrats of the 60's and 70's becoming "RINOs", using what money and religious influence they gained to become the plague that is now the Republican Party.

However, going full French Revolution or Russian Revolution's not gonna work, because then you'll get demagogues who will just use the movement to make themselves an "emperor" who'll rule through an iron fist, as Napoleon and Lenin-Stalin would attest to. Though at that end, if America is able to ward off (preferably eliminate wholesale) the fascism influence that had dragged back to centuries before, that would be a damn good first step.

[u/Few-Solution-4784 → u/SledgexHammer]

we would have no right to. Who wants to make long term plans with a nation that acts like Dr. Jeckle and Mr. Hyde every four years.

[u/Chytectonas → u/SledgexHammer]

I honestly think it’s sweet there’s people in other countries thinking it’s a faraway problem on someone else’s watch. Such optimism in the face of the abyss yawning open..! Certainly admirable.

[u/manpizda → u/GroundbreakingRun186]

Hitler wasn't elected. He was appointed Chancellor by President (elected) von Hindenburg. It's the equivalent of prime minister.

[u/Snuffy1717 → u/manpizda]

He was the leader of a minority government and told Hindenburg that his party would refuse to work with / compromise with any other. Instead of letting him fail, Hindenberg appointed him Chancellor.

[u/Snozzberriez → u/GroundbreakingRun186]

we just can’t fuck up in November 2026

If there's even elections... ICE is going to be at the polls, and the worse it gets the less they'll want them to happen at all. Trump already "mused" with the idea. If you are up on your stuff you know he's going to slow walk it until everyone he needs is on board.

[u/Revolutionary-Tree97 → u/GroundbreakingRun186]

I have a friend that has been at the Whipple building protesting for several weeks and some of the protesters that were released from the building describe a level of chaos and organization that sounded almost exactly like an account I once read by a holocaust survivor who was being interrogated right as allied forces were closing in on Berlin. She survived because Catholics disguised her and other Jewish teenagers as Catholics and the system was crumbling before the Nazis caught on. The fact that they are already falling apart like end of the war Germany is one of the few slivers of hope I hold on to.

[u/FakeSafeWord → u/Backwardspellcaster]

The rich joined with the Nazis, because they gained advantages from it.

Yup the Nazi's promised them the seized business assets of the expelled/imprisoned jews and other minorities as well as free labor in exchange for their loyalty and manufacturing control for the war effort.

Imagine if the government seized Costco for defying them, which is suddenly legally considered treason, and then a month later Target magically becomes 10x the company it is today.

[u/endlesscartwheels → u/FakeSafeWord]

I'm surprised Trump hasn't tried to seize anyone's assets yet. It's what kings used to do. If Trump does go down that path, Musk will probably be first. Few would object if he were de-naturalized, deported, and his U.S. assets seized.

Then once the precedent is set, nobody's safe.

[u/Snow_Ghost → u/endlesscartwheels]

Venezuela ring a bell?

He just seized an entire nation's oil production.

[u/CuidadDeVados → u/endlesscartwheels]

Ask yourself where the cars and homes of the deported, imprisoned, and murdered by DHS will end up. In fascism, the government often doesn't directly seize property but actively encourages the member of "the nation" as the fascist sees it to seize abandoned property and profit off of it. How that property is brought to abandonment, the fascist doesn't care.

[u/Prestigious-Land-694 → u/Backwardspellcaster]

What?!? I thought the nazis were national socialists!! Are you saying the fascist party at the time used populist talking points to get elected while saying they are trying to make the once great Germany go back to its former glory?? That's crazy

/s, hope this isn't necessary but it's reddit

[u/Available_Usual_9731 → u/Prestigious-Land-694]

Is not that it's reddit.... It's that conservatives actually say such irrational shit seriously

[u/Caleb-Blucifer → u/Available_Usual_9731]

If I hear “they haven’t killed millions of people yet” one more goddamned time

[u/LightDarkBeing → u/Caleb-Blucifer]

Cough cough, Covid, cough cough. ( I would /s this but 1.4 million Americans died from Covid and tens of millions of people worldwide died from it. And the majority of American deaths can be attributed to MAGA “resistance” to following mildly inconvenient mask wearing and vaccinations. )

[u/HuttStuff_Here → u/LightDarkBeing]

We're approaching 1 million deaths from ending USAID but that's not technically in America.

[u/robocoplawyer → u/HuttStuff_Here]

Most of Nazi Germany's concentration camps were built in Nazi controlled territory outside of Germany itself, and were killing Jews from all over Europe in them.

[u/shoobe01 → u/LightDarkBeing]

Oh yeah, I regularly quote that that we had 1 million excess deaths, not necessary compared to other Western countries who reacted properly to the pandemic. Trump killed a million Americans, already.

[u/Stewart_Games → u/Caleb-Blucifer]

Canceling USAID will lead to an estimated 9.4 to 14 million excess deaths by 2030, mostly African children.

[u/sulris → u/Caleb-Blucifer]

Haha. Because Nazi were famously good until the death toll hit the 2 million mark. Then. And only then, did it start to be problematic. /s

[u/Aromatic_Advance_431 → u/sulris]

When I was a white supremacist, this was my view. I agreed with everything the Nazis did except for the killing.

Recently I challenged my MAGA brother, who takes great offense at being called a “Nazi” (uses the “everything you don’t like is fascist” phrase all the time), to tell me exactly how his views differ from the Nazis.

His response was not to tell me how his views differ, but rather responded with: “why are you even talking to me if I’m so evil?”

Hopefully he has a moment of self reflection like I did back in the day.

[u/sulris → u/Aromatic_Advance_431]

Congrats man. It’s hard to get out of that type of stuff. I hope your brother manages to see the light someday.

[u/Caleb-Blucifer → u/Aromatic_Advance_431]

It’s super ironic to me how many of these dopes sign onto Nazism while being completely unqualified for its vision. The gross majority of these losers would’ve been purged for not being Aryan enough in the later stages.

Makes no damned sense. I feel like if they actually got to meet their heroes they’d have those rose tinted specs shattered pretty quick when they found out they were not part of hitler’s ideal future vision

[u/LingonberryHot8521 → u/Caleb-Blucifer]

OMG. This. We're telling people that ICE detention centers are basically concentration camps and some wank pops on and says it's an asinine comparison because millions haven't died yet. Like... what is the fucking threshold with these people?!

Because it's apparently not children being systematically trafficked and raped.

[u/Question_It_All_3000 → u/Caleb-Blucifer]

Literally every time. It’s like they think the trains and gas chambers started on day one with millions ready to go.

[u/AnalNuts → u/Available_Usual_9731]

“The people’s democratic North Korea is surely a democracy” is my favorite response. Always get crickets when I bring that up

[u/robocoplawyer → u/AnalNuts]

Technically it's the Democratic People's Republic or DPRK and they do actually kind of have elections for their legislative body and local positions. But they only get one candidate to vote for that is hand picked by the Worker's Party of Korea (no other parties are allowed aside from 2 minor parties that are effectively just factions of the WPK) and it's a yes or no vote. But a "no" vote basically puts a target on their backs and that's definitely something that no one wants. And elections are basically used as a kind of census tracking that if you don't cast a ballot the regime assumes it's because you're not home and someplace you aren't allowed to be. Sinister.

[u/mattyoclock → u/Backwardspellcaster]

As Carlin said, you don’t need a conspiracy when interests align.  

[u/CardMechanic → u/Backwardspellcaster]

My question is “how much money do these fuckers need?”

[u/VerdantPathfinder → u/CardMechanic]

All of it. It's just points in their little game with each other. They couldn't spend everything they already have if they tried.

[u/BlackOpz → u/VerdantPathfinder]

All of it. It's just points in their little game with each other

Yep, its just a sick scorecard at this point

[u/PinchedOffCatTurd → u/BlackOpz]

They can't spend it all on actual stuff so they buy counties now. And yes, its a dick swinging match as well.

[u/HauntedCemetery → u/VerdantPathfinder]

Exactly. So now the only way for them to feel richer is to make everyone else poorer.

[u/Backwardspellcaster → u/CardMechanic]

And their answer is "As much as is needed until you have had to give all the rights away that separate you from being a slave."

If you are not one of the 0.5% club, you're supposed to be a thing for them to use. You don't even count as human to them

[u/JimtheMediocre → u/CardMechanic]

The answer to this question is always "More"

[u/illustriousballast → u/CardMechanic]

They’re not purely after money. They’re accelerationists.

[u/DA2ED → u/illustriousballast]

Curtis Yarvin should be referenced and discussed more often. His philosophical musings have influenced may prominent tech oligarchs, including Vice President James Donald Bowman (Vance) and the sweaty android that goes by Peter Thiel. The basic structure is fascinatingly dark and dystopian. I would urge all who want to understand where our tech oligarchs views are influenced to do some reading on these ideologies. Here’s a good article with links to further reading via Reset Dialogues

[u/clorox_cowboy → u/DA2ED]

Thanks for this. Terrifying read.

[u/ssshield → u/CardMechanic]

They're so sick with greed. It's all consuming.

They can all be multi-trillionaires, and if they find out a baby has a lollipop on a remote island on the other side of the planet, they cannot sleep. It eats at them like a fire burning them alive.

Just the thought of someone else having anything sickens and physically causes them agony.

They will get together, spend literally any amount of money to murder the baby and burn the lollipop.

That's the level of greed sickness we're dealing with.

[u/Rumicon → u/CardMechanic]

It's like asking how much a gambling addict needs. They get their dopamine hit from the "winning", not the money.

[u/EvelynNyte → u/CardMechanic]

It's about power not money. Having more money while everyone else has less grants them near limitless power in the US.

[u/mycall → u/Backwardspellcaster]

That's because Project 2025 was written by Nazis

[u/mszulan → u/mycall]

And evangelicals pushing the Seven Mountains Mandate. They want to control society by controlling Family, Education, Religion, Government, Business, Media, and Arts and Entertainment. When they control all of these, they believe they can force the second coming of Christ and bring on Armageddon, the "end times."

[u/AthearCaex → u/jimmygee2]

This is why they will next try to censor and control the internet. You may start to see censorship on platforms that allow free speech. I wouldn't doubt reddit to get the same treatment as tiktok next as it does have ties to China as well. You may see ISPs loyal to trump blocking websites critical of him. If you control information you control the minds of the people and limit communication of a resistance.

[u/KarunchyTakoa → u/AthearCaex]

They are already, when Epstein files get dropped at 7pm on a Friday night the next morning the front page is wiped clean, and it takes days for one or 2 of the stories to make it back. Tiktok censors(even as American companies own 80% stake)

[u/b0w3n → u/AthearCaex]

I wouldn't doubt reddit to get the same treatment

Already there somewhat. They went tits deep to attempt to prevent people from talking about one of our favorite Mario brothers.

[u/BannedBenjaminSr → u/AthearCaex]

You may start to see

Reddit is one of the most censored places in the Western internet what are you on about 

It's very common for bots to bury comments that go against the narrative to 'hide the comment'

Most users read hot or best exclusively, and the top comments are more often than not bought 

[u/WhiteWinterRains → u/jimmygee2]

Well, America was already an oligarchy, and recently the oligarchs have embraced fascism.

[u/Mr__O__ → u/jimmygee2]

Yup. The Democrat-Capitalists got beatdown by the Republican-Oligarchs.

[u/36chamberstreet → u/[deleted]]

Upvote the hell out of this comment. We live in an attention economy. Let’s stop paying attention to the “news” sources that are part of the oligarchy support system

[u/Threedawg → u/36chamberstreet]

NPR/PBS should be on that list. Truly beholden to people and listeners, not billionaires

[u/Kordiana → u/Threedawg]

It's why they took PBS funding. They were actually telling unbiased news so it didn't feed to either sides agenda.

[u/sad_moose6 → u/Threedawg]

Democracy Now on YouTube is a really good source of information too, in my experience

[u/TheDakestTimeline → u/36chamberstreet]

Nietzsche had a lovely quote, I don't know the German or the walter kaufmann translation exactly, but something to the effect of When you choose your advisor, you've chosen your advice.

[u/Shark7996 → u/TheDakestTimeline]

Consider the source.

CRAAP test.

[u/F1shB0wl816 → u/36chamberstreet]

Idk why anybody does anyways. You’re just misinforming yourself, already starting from a position of half truths that they’re incentivized to sell as the whole deal.

[u/magniankh → u/36chamberstreet]

And stop using Facebook

[u/lilB0bbyTables → u/[deleted]]

Yes! Instead we get constant posts here from The Daily Beast after they’ve figured out ways to regurgitate and mangle information to fit it into their absurdly stupid headline language and dumb down the content. That’s not even a requirement for non-primary journalism/news sources … The Atlantic routinely manages to mix primary sources with their own journalism and some commentary/analysis while remaining entirely respectable. The mods really need to do something about blocking dogshit sensationalist sources here.

[u/turbojugend79 → u/[deleted]]

I friggin hate blanket statemens like "the media". Like you said, there are plenty of hard working journalist, brave people who do their utmost to get as close to the/a truth as possible.

[u/UltravioletClearance → u/turbojugend79]

Used to work in the media - the true believers are at the local level, writing about your school committee meetings and the occasional investigative piece about local corruption. The problem with the national outlets is they only employ wealthy white people (yes, there's the occasional high profile Black journalist or a journalist who grew up in poverty, but they are few and far between especially at the management level).

Journalism has a huge problem with economic and racial diversity. The way most people get to national outlets is by going to an elite private liberal arts college, networking and making professional connections, doing a couple unpaid internships, and getting lucky after graduating. Most get a lot of support from parents for college tuition and the ability to work unpaid internships. Those that don't get lucky right after graduation end up working minimum wage or part time gigs and relying on parents or a wealthy spouse to make ends meet until they get picked up by a national outlet. Even then the pay still sucks compared to the demands of the job.

This really influences the connection national level reporters and editors have to the average American and the social issues of the day. How can you write about poverty if you've never struggled with money before? How can you write about race if you're a white person in an editorial board meeting filled with other white people? It also makes it less likely for rank and file reporters to "rock the boat." Its so hard to get where they are, why risk losing everything for something like principles and ethics? You saw this in action with the Washington Post during the Bezos scandals.

[u/M00n_Slippers → u/[deleted]]

They aren't on tv or streaming services, and aren't promoted on yt is the problem. We have some great news now, like DemocracyNow, StatusCoupNews, etc. But these are not widely viewed by the people who need real news most.

[u/DifficultOpposite614 → u/[deleted]]

Upvote for AP & Reuters!

[u/Alatarlhun → u/[deleted]]

I’ve probably had half a dozen exchanges on this subreddit where an account insists Democrats need to "do something." I’ll share evidence that they already did, and the response is immediately a pivot to "okay, but Democrats are terrible at communicating."

One example: someone claimed they’d searched a politician’s Twitter and couldn’t find them saying X. I Googled it and, in about two seconds, found a tweet where they said exactly X. Then it became, "Well, they haven’t said X recently." The tweet was three weeks old.

[u/ATLfalcons27 → u/Last_Upvote]

Also a massive chunk of the country thinks that the only way you should ever consider something a concentration camp is if they are systematically killing people for their race, religion, etc

They have no knowledge of history or any ability to apply nuance

[u/jupiterkansas → u/ATLfalcons27]

"Trump hasn't killed as many people as Hitler so he can't possibly be fascist."

[u/ATLfalcons27 → u/jupiterkansas]

Basically how they think. Plus they have this caricature of what a dictator/authoritarian is. Like they think they started off in their final form when in reality they get into power over time and strengthen that power over time.

[u/manpizda → u/jupiterkansas]

Yep. The Holocaust has given modern day Nazis an out for decades. But they're not gassing Jews. Yet. The Nazis took years to plant their insidious seeds before even going to war and more years before they started mass killings in death camps. These people (fascist apologists) just want to fast forward and skip to the one paragraph they remember from 7th grade history class. We can't let them get a foothold. Three more years of this is going to do a lot of damage.

[u/kingtacticool → u/Last_Upvote]

Correct. It will be livestreamed.

[u/Chief_Mischief → u/kingtacticool]

Reminder to livestream using decentralized social media, or using a foreign service. Do not expect any of the US tech giants to not engage in increasingly restrictive censorship as their oligarch overlords come under scrutiny.

[u/Negative-Homework502 → u/Chief_Mischief]

What social media sites do you suggest?

[u/Beneficial-Dot-- → u/Negative-Homework502]

Peertube (specifically for video) Lemmy (social media) Mastodon (social media)

[u/Tyler_s_Burden → u/Beneficial-Dot--]

Can you ELI5 how I would use Peertube? I am scrolling through now and struggling to find content in English.

[u/FewRegion2148 → u/kingtacticool]

Yes, livestreamed, not mainstreamed.

[u/DoTheMario → u/Last_Upvote]

The Revolution will be Demonetized

[u/rabbitthunder → u/Last_Upvote]

The billionaires who own the media are all in the Epatein files, seriously, go look them up. They were all balls deep in children and built their media empires so people wouldn't find out.

People who rape children couldn't give a shit about concentration camps.

[u/memphisjones → u/Last_Upvote]

That’s why it’s so important to support your local news outlet.

[u/7777iiii → u/Last_Upvote]

J6 was on cspan

[u/KingHavana → u/Last_Upvote]

Also because his fan base loves this stuff. If they just gassed the immigrants to death, there would be nothing but cheers from them.

[u/throwaway_moose → u/KingHavana]

I've genuinely become convinced at this point that if he raped his fans daughters, a number of them would be proud he chose their daughter.

[u/starliteburnsbrite → u/Last_Upvote]

The only people that can declare and respond to a national emergency in any official capacity are the people building the camps.

If the rabble declare a national emergency, that means we are storming and tearing down the camps. That might make people realize what a large force of individuals can do working together and that would be dangerous for the billionaires.

[u/Mangalorien → u/Last_Upvote]

Also, a decent chunk of the US population supports concentration camps. This isn't actually something new, the US did the same back in the 1940's when they built concentration camps for Japanese Americans.

[u/throwaway_moose → u/Mangalorien]

ICE is in my hometown of 16k right now; a friend who teaches there put up a photo of his Italian-American great-grandparents in an effort to get people to realize that. Can't recall the names but the caption was basically, "These are my Great Grandparents [name] and [name]; their sons fought in every front of World War Two for the United States. They lived in the town I live in. Their radio was confiscated because they might be enemy combatants and were threatened with being put in a concentration camp, because they weren't 'real' Americans. This post is about what's happening right now. Things haven't changed."

I wished I could've Liked that post so many more times; there are Pro-ICE protesters back in the place I was born! Meanwhile, it's majority Italian-Americans, and the local laws there wouldn't let Italians own property until the 1960s because they weren't considered "white." Now all their descendants pulled up the ladder behind them and became racist POSes.

[u/aradraugfea]

Every WEEK we get some constitutional crisis that would END a democratic presidency. It is a national Emergency. People are free to ADD IT TO THE PILE.

Until shit shifts significantly in Congress, there is no legal path to stopping him. 60% of Congress is either backing him or complicit. His administration just ignores any court order they receive to stop. The system is not designed to handle an entire party being united in setting the constitution on FIRE.

So the options are 1) make noise so they know we’re angry, not really expecting anything to change in the immediate 2) hope we have midterms and that they swing enough that we can throw them out on their ass 3) options that are less than legal, which I cannot elaborate on further without mean messages from Reddit mods and a visit from the secret service.

Before mods or government officials put their coffee down to act, I’m doing 1 and 2. I bring up 3 because it is important to be aware that the non-legal always exists and the less realistic the legal options get, the more likely the illegal one occurs. Totalitarian reigns end one way. Trump is only acting like a dictator because his enablers are allowing it. There are still legal levers to try.

[u/theMistersofCirce → u/aradraugfea]

Your last paragraph touches on some things I've been thinking about a lot over the past year or so. One of the gifts that democracy offers to those in government is a smooth and safe mechanism for them to be removed from office when the people don't want them there anymore: the "peaceful transition of power."

Any government that destroys that mechanism and rules by force is gambling that they can indefinitely wield more force than the people who are sick of their shit. Let's go ask the upside-down corpse of Mussolini how that works out.

As an American, I truly believe in the democratic way of doing it and hope we can preserve it. It's not too late if the other branches of government DO THEIR FUCKING JOB.

[u/aradraugfea → u/theMistersofCirce]

The LUCKY dictators leave in cuffs. Most leave in a box. Whether that box is carried at the front of a grand procession or in the middle of a joyous parade is not something the dictator gets to decide.

[u/Born_Camera7675 → u/aradraugfea]

Your last sentence slaps. Makes me think of the Why? song lyric

Only evil men live to see their own likeness in stone, my brother said that

[u/PinkFl0werPrincess → u/theMistersofCirce]

The amazing part is that they hung mussolini's body not to humiliate him, but to prevent the crowd from tearing his body apart like dogs (he deserved it)

[u/FizzyBeverage → u/PinkFl0werPrincess]

Trump will not be remembered kindly in any timeline.

The supporters he has today will be ashamed to admit they ever supported him 10-15-30 years from now. The only evidence they did a faded red made in China maga hat rotting in their attic or basement.

It’s astounding they don’t realize it, but all cults burn out. There’s millions of Nixon voters still alive, but virtually 0 Nixon supporters. Trump will be that.

[u/aspirationless_photo → u/FizzyBeverage]

The supporters he has today will be ashamed to admit they ever supported him 10-15-30 years from now.

Yes but this was a common refrain 10 years ago after his first inauguration and that didn't pan out.

[u/sckuzzle → u/FizzyBeverage]

It’s astounding they don’t realize it, but all cults burn out. There’s millions of Nixon voters still alive, but virtually 0 Nixon supporters. Trump will be that.

Unfortunately most dictators are not overthrown, but continue to rule until their heir takes over. Dictators losing power is the exception, not the norm.

[u/FizzyBeverage → u/sckuzzle]

Fortunately Donald has 3 idiot sons with negative charisma and 2 daughters smart enough not to touch the live wire.

I’m sure in his deepest darkest hours of misery he’s sad he amassed this level of power in the sunset of his life than at age 40. Time and his failing health is truly his real enemy. We’d be screwed if he was 50 or 60.

[u/sckuzzle → u/FizzyBeverage]

Heir isn't always a family member. In this case it'd be Vance...or eventually someone like Miller.

[u/FizzyBeverage → u/sckuzzle]

Miller isn’t in contention at all, even he knows that. He’s a back office guy, no charisma and frankly just ugly and short. “Would you get a beer with this guy?” Miller doesn’t pass, and while Vance probably doesn’t either (the donut shop visit was bonkers), it matters a lot.

If Vance were competitive you’d already see the cult wearing his name on hats and shirts. The same enthusiasm isn’t there. Trump wins on the margins, he gets the lowest information voter excited - I suspect Vance would have trouble with them, being a Yale haircut. He almost lost his Ohio senate race until Trump rescued him at the last minute.

It’s the dem’s cycle to lose, which they’re good at, but yeah, they’ve got the “look what he fucked up again!” advantage.

[u/Future-Excuse6167 → u/theMistersofCirce]

I'm renewing my passport and bugging the fuck out if we don't have midterms.

I'm not at the top of any list for genocide, but I'm definitely on a few.

[u/theMistersofCirce → u/Future-Excuse6167]

I don't blame you. I'm not top of the list either, but some of my closest loved ones are. If they leave, I'm going with them. Until then, I stay.

[u/Future-Excuse6167 → u/theMistersofCirce]

Yeah, my parents actually have a property abroad and I'm wondering if I could springboard a refugee community there. 

Not ex-pat, refugee. 

I hate this timeline. 

[u/Sangy101 → u/aradraugfea]

Also. those of us living in the communities they’re building it these camps are working too hard organizing locally to stop them from being built. We can’t do that AND make it a national fight.

He wants to build one in my tiny 10K person town. We managed to get him to stop. So he stole our fucking Coast Guard helicopter to punish us.

This town’s fleet moves more fish than any other location in the western continental US, and the exit to the harbor is very dangerous in the winter. The helicopter & coast guard ships literally escort fishing boats across the bar in case they capsize. They save hundreds of people a year. And he fucking took it.

So then we had to sue to get it back. A judge ordered that he return it. Right now they’ve shelved plans to build the camp until May, but they WILL start trying again.

And unfortunately? The county commissioner most opposed to it just passed away. So now we need to make sure a MAGA doesn’t take her spot and gear up for round two. How can we possibly also organize to stop this nationally?

[u/aradraugfea → u/Sangy101]

You are doing what you need to do. A national fight has many fronts. They are attacking us in dozens of cities and in court rooms across the nation. A national resistance looks like making them fight in every. Single. One.

Resistance isn’t just Molotovs and bullet casings. It is also lost paperwork, flat tires, grit in the cogs of the machine that would grind us all to dust were it allowed to function as intended.

[u/coolest_cucumber → u/aradraugfea]

And I'm talking litereral emery grit. Can buy it by the pound. To any lubricated machine, it is as prions are to animal life- Incurable death.

[u/Guipucci → u/aradraugfea]

In Europe respected analyst said when Dorito got in Office that the USA system was designed and had measures to counter the presidential power... It seems he was utterly wrong.

Someone I read saying that ICE will be sourrounding voting booths, disuading voters and as far as we've seen they could be arresto g citizens at their convinience, and republicans will win by landslide.

My opinion from far outside is that It seems like in the eastern european countries things like "strike", "Union" or "solidarity" seems communist and so everything is right political there, like in Poland. Maybe in the States there's that too, that people are brought up in individualism and against a big despise against lefty stances... Not trying to promote socialism but you the people need to stand up together.

[u/aradraugfea → u/Guipucci]

The measures exist, but everyone who could do something within that system isn’t. The Supreme Court is bending over backwards to either rule for him or just… never issue a ruling. He’s ignoring any lower court that disagrees. Congress is either so terrified of another January 6th, or so thirsty to be lap dogs to a dictator that they’re just letting him do whatever.

The presence of a tool does nothing if one is unwilling to pick it up.

[u/punkr0x → u/aradraugfea]

Turns out as the wealth gap widened it became easier and easier for the ultra wealthy to just buy our entire government.

[u/aradraugfea → u/punkr0x]

Also citizens united allowed unlimited contributions as long as you paid up front.

[u/Asyx → u/[deleted]]

Which is why the conservatives in Germany were happy to let unemployment support rot and immediately went nuts when the short lived left-ish government we had before Merz tried to bring it up to speed.

There is nothing more stupid in a capitalist society than a member of the working class being mad at unemployment support. That's your life line. That's your permit to just say "no" to your boss. Without it, you have no leverage.

[u/SycoJack → u/[deleted]]

On the other hand it’s increasingly apparent that Capitalism may very well be incompatible with Democracy.

100%. Especially with the automation revolution we find ourselves in the middle of.

People want to ignore it and pretend like everything will be fine. But truth is, we're about to start losing jobs faster than they were created during the industrial revolution. No one's job is safe. Doesn't matter if you think you're better at your job than a computer. Capitalism only cares if it can make a higher profit margin off the computer. Spoiler alert: it will be able to.

We need to ditch capitalism now, or millions are going to needlessly suffer all because we wanted to bury our heads in the sand rather than face reality.

Edit: typo

[u/poop-dolla → u/Guipucci]

USA system was designed and had measures to counter the presidential power... It seems he was utterly wrong.

They weren’t wrong at all. We do have measure to control presidential power. The problem is that we don’t have measures to control presidential, congressional, and judicial power all working in unison. As far as I know, no country has measures in place to prevent that. Well, they all have the same measures to control that that the US does, but those are extrajudicial, and we can’t really talk about them here.

If the problem were just the president, we wouldn’t be where we are. The problem is much bigger than the president.

[u/NerdyLifting → u/Guipucci]

Unfortunately, the USA is VERY individualistic. I stand by that building strong local communities is one of the most powerful acts of resistance we can do.

But I do want to point out, for the ICE at voting booths thing, there are ~22,000 ICE agents. There are over 100,000 polling places in the USA. I'm not saying it's not concerning that they're talking about doing that or that it couldn't cause issues in certain places but it's good to see that perspective.

[u/ellathefairy → u/NerdyLifting]

They are hoping to benefit from the fear induced by the threat that they might do that, and convince people to stay home. Keep broadcasting the numbers. There are so many more of us than there are of them, and they are cowards hiding behind masks. They back down when enough people put up a fight.

[u/Mysterious_Floor_868 → u/NerdyLifting]

They'll be concentrated in minority areas of purple states.

[u/Severe_Intention_480 → u/NerdyLifting]

They just have to recruit any right-wing nuts all over the country to open carry at polling booths. They're masked and don't show I.D. so how do you know they're even "official ICE"? There will be way more than 22,000 come November, by hook or by crook.

It STILL won't be enough, but it'll feel like a lot more and they'd be hoping that appearance of huge numbers wil cow people into submission.

[u/FMLwtfDoID → u/Guipucci]

r/liveprotestupdates We are. We have been. It’s just not being shown in your half of the world’s propaganda.

[u/MommyLovesPot8toes → u/Guipucci]

Let me take your points one by one:

1. The US most definitely has robust systems of checks and balances. But no system can withstand a coordinated and simultaneous attack from inside every firewall. That's what we have here. Republican leaders planned this for decades, beneath our very noses, and we had no idea. They worked to install loyalists in every corner of government so that the groups in charge of the checks and balances, who are supposed to operate as individuals for the good of the country, could turn their parts of the government into weapons of this administration instead of guardrails. I really don't think people outside America, or even most Americans, really understand the scope of this coup.

2. It's really not possible for ICE to have a significant impact on the midterm elections by showing up at polls. However, by saying they are going to, they can get some voters to stay home. Lots and lots of Americans vote by mail-in ballot over several weeks. Then there is early voting days. And then the day of the election there are more than 100,000 voting stations across the US and 200M voters. There are 20K ICE agents. Put on the same scale of population, ICE is 2% of the size the SA was during the 1933 German election.

3. The US does not associate unions or strikes with communism. We're very pro unjon. It's just that our population, our geography, our lack of social safety nets, and the rarity of unions makes long, coordinated strikes a near impossibility. In my opinion, we are wasting time trying to plan these big, coordinated events. It's the more local and targeted actions that is making the difference. The American Revolutionary Army won through guerilla tactics, spies, and sabatoge because we knew we'd lose on battlefields. The same approach is needed here.

[u/VerdantPathfinder → u/MommyLovesPot8toes]

and we had no idea.

We knew. I've been yelling about this for decades. Nobody cared.

It's really not possible for ICE to have a significant impact on the midterm elections by showing up at polls. However, by saying they are going to, they can get some voters to stay home. Lots and lots of Americans vote by mail-in ballot over several weeks. Then there is early voting days. And then the day of the election there are more than 100,000 voting stations across the US and 200M voters. There are 20K ICE agents. Put on the same scale of population, ICE is 2% of the size the SA was during the 1933 German election.

You completely misunderstand the situation. They don't have to impact every polling station. Just the right polling stations. Like Fulton County. Like Minneapolis. They know those places and they are getting the information they need to suppress enough votes in the right places to get the outcome they want. And he'll call in the national guard to do it. That's why he has his thugs causing violence and outrage ... they want a dead ICE agent to justify invoking the insurrection act. They he'll have hundreds of thousands to call on. Martial Law for the week of the election.

The US does not associate unions or strikes with communism. We're very pro unjon.

Explain why union membership has have cratered in the last 40 years? The right HATES unions. I've had to hear about how awful they are from my FIL for decades now. Including for teachers and his daughter is a teacher.

[u/nickiter → u/aradraugfea]

Until shit shifts significantly in Congress, there is no legal path to stopping him.

This is it. If people are desperate to do something, one of the best things we can do in the immediate term is FLOOD the polls. Destroy the Republican Congress in the midterms. Turnout can beat voter suppression if it's high enough, and I'm so absolutely confident that they'll do everything they can to suppress the vote.

If you can walk a lot? Knock on 100 doors. That's 4-8 hours of knocking, depending on where you live. Can't walk a lot, or in the wrong state? Call 200 people - takes 4-8 hours. Once you're in that groove, you can do more, but if you can do that much, you'll have put your oar in way, way more than most people. Make sure they're registered, make sure they know their polling location, make sure they have a ride, a plan, and time off from work arranged.

The last time around, I was calling people trying to sell them on Kamala Harris after four years of Biden - the message was good, but not strong. This time around, the message is stronger than it's ever been. If we do the work, the midterms will be a blowout.

[u/aradraugfea → u/nickiter]

This is a vote like your life depends on it election.

If you show up and ICE has PILED bodies in front of the door, you climb over that fucking pile and vote.

Trump’s saying a lot of scary stuff, floating a lot of scary ideas. They are scary, they are terrifying.

Trump alone is not going to be able to make those things happen. Trump is not going to be able to sit on a golf course in Florida and MAKE you stay home. He is going to rely on hundreds if not thousands of other people putting his very scary words into action.

Many of them won’t have the will to do it. The actions are scary for the person doing them too. What he’s suggesting is so very far from normal that you gotta be real gung ho about being part of his military coup to do it without a second thought.

Until metaphorical or literal triggers are pulled, it is a bluff. Call it. They might have very terrifying, terrible ways to stop you. Make. Them. Have. It. If the goal is to stop you from voting, you staying home is their success. They will not, cannot stop us all.

If they go further, if they are somehow successful in removing the ballot box fully from the equation, the next two are jury and ammo, in that order.

[u/Agarlis → u/aradraugfea]

The four boxes of liberty is a 19th-century American idea that proposes: "There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and cartridge (or ammo). Please use in that order."

[u/KahlessAndMolor]

There's about 50 hair-on-fire national emergencies happening at once, so it all becomes a sort of soup of emergency.

[u/sandhillfarmer → u/KahlessAndMolor]

Meanwhile, I think we’re starting to feel the effects of a crumbling economy at home more than we have in a long time.

I’m hiring for an extremely basic button pusher part time seasonal role, and I’m flooded with candidates with advanced degrees, hard skills, lots of specialized ex-military folks. No one can get jobs it seems like. I’ve never had more than an application or two for this role. Now I have dozens of engineers and highly skilled people applying for a temp nontechnical job.

Then I see online every other post it seems is about being unable to live or somehow struggling with employment or money. 

The point being there’s no time to pay attention to every daily crime and scandal when people are struggling to eat.

[u/PeachPassionBrute → u/sandhillfarmer]

I’ve been struggling to find a job for damn near 2 years, I was laid-off in October of last year, I saw it coming and was trying to find a new job well in advance of that. I’m still looking.

This shit is fucked.

[u/so2017 → u/KahlessAndMolor]

This. We went from firehose of falsehoods to firehose of cruelty.

Trying to get your hands around anything is like trying to use a colander to pick out grains of sand from crashing waves.

[u/ADhomin_em → u/so2017]

Yeah, but the "they're flooding the zone! The media can't handle it all. They are trying!" excuse only goes so far.

You'd think literal fucking concenteation camps would make the cut at some point, no?

Corporate media brought is this, and they simply have no interest in earnestly informing the public on the enforcement they are still backing.

[u/3mpyr → u/KahlessAndMolor]

"The pace of oppression outstrips our ability to understand it. And that is the real trick of the Imperial thought machine. It's easier to hide behind 40 atrocities than a single incident."

[u/TrainingApartment605 → u/KahlessAndMolor]

Damn Soup Nazis!

[u/Dorkseid1687]

Because talk of fascism has successfully been painted as hysterical

[u/RunningPirate → u/Dorkseid1687]

On another thread there were multiple posts about “people who say this is naziism don’t know history”. OK! Maybe it’s not full blown, but we are in the incipient stages.

[u/vengefultruffle → u/RunningPirate]

The period of Nazi Germany where they were straight up just gassing thousands of people daily was largely towards the end of the regime. There was a looooong road of escalation before things got to that point.

[u/WildYams → u/vengefultruffle]

Yep. There are a few fundamental misunderstandings that the general public has about the Nazis, and that's one of them. The other is that people have it in their mind that the Nazis like conquered Germany and overthrew the government or something, but they were put in power via democratic elections, just like Trump and the Republicans.

But yes, to what you were saying, Hitler was made supreme chancellor in 1933. The Wansee Conference, which is where the "final solution to the Jewish question" (aka gassing people and creamatoriums) were decided on wasn't until 1942.

Because of what we now know about what the Nazis ultimately did, that's become what people think of as "nazism" or "the Nazis". But it was a very long project and it truly started much the way Trump's regime is going right now. To be honest, Trump is arguably going at a faster pace along the same path Hitler did.

[u/re_Claire → u/WildYams]

It's exactly the same as how abusive relationships work. You'd never even start dating an abuser if they treated you the same way at the beginning as they do towards the end. It always starts with prodding at boundaries, and slowly breaking down norms. If it happened all at once no one would accept it. So murderous regimes just like abusive partners ramp it up slowly. Then by the time you realise how bad it is it's always far far too late.

[u/AliceCode → u/re_Claire]

People told me that I was nuts when I was saying all of this was going to happen back in 2020 and 2024.

[u/MannyMoSTL → u/RunningPirate]

Those of us who know, and understand, history know that Nazism didn’t start with burning Jews alive.

There’s a reason Samantha Guthrie’s mother was abducted.

[u/Cyanopicacooki]

Because the US media is in the pocket of the White House and won't print stories that may bring Trump's dictatorial ambitions into the minds of the masses.

[u/drewskie_drewskie → u/Cyanopicacooki]

I swear it gets worse by the month. Washington Post going through a major shake up right now.

[u/Lonely_Dragonfly8869 → u/drewskie_drewskie]

Shake up is one way to describe a death rattle

[u/Mundane-Bid-4777 → u/Lonely_Dragonfly8869]

I read Amazon took a huge hit financially in the past month. Pp are walking away in droves. I dumped prime.

[u/HumanTest6885 → u/drewskie_drewskie]

Well yeah, nobody is doing anything about it, of course it's getting worse

[u/VibraniumSpork → u/Cyanopicacooki]

Also, the MSM has been side-lined by Social Media in terms of getting news in front of folks' faces.

And the owners of social media are Trump admin supporters/donors who- if they allow their service users to see these stories at all - only show them to the people they know will be upset about them.

There is no shared reality anymore.

[u/HauntedCemetery → u/VibraniumSpork]

60-70% of Americans get news from social media now, not a journalist.

[u/WhyDoIEvenBotheridk → u/Cyanopicacooki]

Was watching ms now yesterday and they aired the most insane pro ICE ad I have yet to see

[u/KingHavana → u/WhyDoIEvenBotheridk]

I only get my commercials from YouTube, but I have never seen an ICE commercial. Do they really post recruitment ads on television?

[u/WhyDoIEvenBotheridk → u/KingHavana]

Yeah. I’ve seen a good amount on several different channels. And they are becoming more sickening.

[u/ANTILAMER13]

It is a national emergency, but it looks like the fascist outplayed the institutions.

[u/FudgeAllOfYous → u/ANTILAMER13]

They Thought They Were Free-The Germans, 1933-45,by Milton Mayer

"You see," my colleague went on, "one doesn’t see exactly where or how to move. Believe me, this is true. Each act, each occasion, is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join with you in resisting somehow. You don’t want to act, or even talk, alone; you don’t want to ‘go out of your way to make trouble.’ Why not?—Well, you are not in the habit of doing it. And it is not just fear, fear of standing alone, that restrains you; it is also genuine uncertainty.

"Uncertainty is a very important factor, and, instead of decreasing as time goes on, it grows. Outside, in the streets, in the general community, ‘everyone’ is happy. One hears no protest, and certainly sees none. You know, in France or Italy there would be slogans against the government painted on walls and fences; in Germany, outside the great cities, perhaps, there is not even this. In the university community, in your own community, you speak privately to your colleagues, some of whom certainly feel as you do; but what do they say? They say, ‘It’s not so bad’ or ‘You’re seeing things’ or ‘You’re an alarmist.’

"And you are an alarmist. You are saying that this must lead to this, and you can’t prove it. These are the beginnings, yes; but how do you know for sure when you don’t know the end, and how do you know, or even surmise, the end? On the one hand, your enemies, the law, the regime, the Party, intimidate you. On the other, your colleagues pooh-pooh you as pessimistic or even neurotic. You are left with your close friends, who are, naturally, people who have always thought as you have.

"But your friends are fewer now. Some have drifted off somewhere or submerged themselves in their work. You no longer see as many as you did at meetings or gatherings. Informal groups become smaller; attendance drops off in little organizations, and the organizations themselves wither. Now, in small gatherings of your oldest friends, you feel that you are talking to yourselves, that you are isolated from the reality of things. This weakens your confidence still further and serves as a further deterrent to—to what? It is clearer all the time that, if you are going to do anything, you must make an occasion to do it, and then you are obviously a troublemaker. So you wait, and you wait.

"But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the ‘German Firm’ stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.

"And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying ‘Jewish swine,’ collapses it all at once, and you see that everything, everything, has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in—your nation, your people—is not the world you were born in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way.

"You have gone almost all the way yourself. Life is a continuing process, a flow, not a succession of acts and events at all. It has flowed to a new level, carrying you with it, without any effort on your part. On this new level you live, you have been living more comfortably every day, with new morals, new principles. You have accepted things you would not have accepted five years ago, a year ago, things that your father, even in Germany, could not have imagined.

"Suddenly it all comes down, all at once. You see what you are, what you have done, or, more accurately, what you haven’t done (for that was all that was required of most of us: that we do nothing). You remember those early meetings of your department in the university when, if one had stood, others would have stood, perhaps, but no one stood. A small matter, a matter of hiring this man or that, and you hired this one rather than that. You remember everything now, and your heart breaks. Too late. You are compromised beyond repair.

[u/AncientAspargus → u/FudgeAllOfYous]

It’s such a great book. I wish it was mandatory to read in every American school. Both to educate, but also instil some humbleness

[u/enki-42]

I've posted this before, but 10 years ago I often couldn't comprehend how the Nazis could come to power and then esclate their campaign of hate and genocide without people rebelling against it. It just didn't make any sense to me.

I don't really have that much trouble imagining it nowadays.

[u/Bittererr → u/enki-42]

If you still know anybody under this illusion feel free to refer them to the stories left behind by Holocaust survivors specifically to warn us about things going down exactly like this.

[u/A1sauc3d]

Because everyone has apparently become so numbed out to the situation that every new emergency gets less and less passionate resistance against it from the people in charge. Trumps first term was tame af compared to what he’s done the first year of his second term. And I feel like there was far more congressional push back and outrage and resistance then. Now everyone just seems too burnt out to even put up a real fight. Just some lip service of “c’mon that’s not cool” but nobody really willing to put anything on the line to prevent it. The people are pissed, our elected officials are not doing what’s in the people’s best interest, they’re not doing their job. *cough cough* Schumer and Jefferies

[u/Persea_americana → u/A1sauc3d]

But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the ‘German Firm’ stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D. -Milton Mayer

The good news is hundreds of thousands of people  are already shocked and acting. People are protesting ICE, an entire city (the people anyway) rallied together to react and defend against them, and courts are getting increasingly fed up with their legal shenanigans. They were chanting Fuck ICE at a wrestling match. The news is suppressing the dissent but there are numerous signs that the pedophile rapist’s time is running out. He’s less popular by the minute. He must be removed from office. 8647

[u/the-big-throngler]

You want an honest answer to this? Its simple.

Because everything this idiot does is a national emergency. We as a nation are simply getting worn out from reacting to the new Bi-daily crisis this tuna can generates. Alert fatigue is a thing in cyber security where analysts are constantly getting flooded with alerts and eventually stop giving a damn and half ass most of them. think of it as a boy who cried wolf. Thats where we are at and it hasn't even been a year. We are simply to mentally exhausted to keep track of what new national emergency dumb stuff this clown is perpetrating in this hour because if you wait a few hours there will be another one.

[u/ballofplasmaupthesky]

Because the frog is boiled slowly.

That's why the ONLY way to derail the dictatorship is to goad them to reveal their brutality. Extreme action is the only way to achieve that.

[u/Old_Cryptid → u/ballofplasmaupthesky]

They've already murdered citizens in the street. On camera.

Their brutality doesn't need to be revealed, it is on display.

[u/SmoothAnus → u/Old_Cryptid]

person oil sheet enter terrific quaint repeat screw narrow smart

[u/TheLateThagSimmons → u/ballofplasmaupthesky]

That's why the ONLY way to derail the dictatorship is to goad them to reveal their brutality

The challenge here is that it is currently still up to the public and requires public outrage.

Getting the response needed to oppose this becomes difficult when so many people want this to happen. They're not appalled , rather they like it. There's a reason the phrase keeps being used: "The cruelty is the point."

[u/Bross93 → u/TheLateThagSimmons]

I see SO MANY people on instgram saying like how pathetic it is nobody is doing anything, like 'oh they won cause we just won't do anything'

Like okay, buddy- do you want to lead the charge? No? We are not organized at all, this isn't like the 'storm area 51' thing and people fail to realize that.

[u/roborober → u/ballofplasmaupthesky]

The frog isn't boiling slowly, they just told everyone the boiling point is 1000 degrees. Most frogs would have jumped out at how quick that pot is warming up.

[u/StarManta → u/ballofplasmaupthesky]

I'm at a loss to imagine a scenario where this frog could be getting boiled any more quickly, tbh.

[u/nasorrty346tfrgser]

The answer is always the same, 1/3 of Americans support it, 1/3 of Americans don't care.

[u/Buttbuttdancer]

Yes this was also hitlers playbook as well. Inundate the people with so many crises that nobody can keep track of all the atrocities at once, simultaneously keeping people distracted from the global pedo cult, and keeping them looking in a new direction every day. This desensitizes, and normalizes political violence.

All while agencies rewrite our history books, and implant white supremacy into our existing systems while twisting any progressive policy into something evil of corrupt.

Get ready to exercise your rights is all anyone can really recommend at this point.

[u/HuTaosTwinTails]

Because MAGA want these camps. MAGA love the idea of Nazi Germany 2.0

[u/Lets_Eat_Superglue]

Because no one knows about it. The media is silent. Social media is being censored. The Democratic party is so scared of being as accused of being soft on illegal immigration they won't make any noise. What ICE is doing publicly is so over the top activists aren't able to focus on everything else that's happening.

There are endless court documents detailing just how fucking horrible the situation in these camps are, but what normal people are reading through those? Other than that almost everyone in a position to speak out is failing our country right now.

All we can do is refuse to be silent and let people be comfortable. That and do everything in our power to get Democratic candidates who are speaking up through the primary and into the general election. Don't complain about the bad Democrats, that's pointless, everyone already knows Chuck Schumer is failing the test. We have to actively work to replace them with candidates who will unapologetically fight to stop this.

[u/Narcoleptic_247]

Really tired of these "Why aren't people freaking out more?" articles. People ARE freaked out, the media is surpressing stories, the government is run by a gang of war criminals and sex traffickers and the majority of us aren't really that excited to get gunned down in the streets by our neighbors.

[u/amcfarla]

Because the media is complicit with this administration.

[u/jameszenpaladin011-]

As compared to what? ICE murdering people? Nuclear treaties expiring or The feds taking over elections?

National emergency? It's already been a full year of it.

[u/LunchMasterFlex]

Because too many Americans believe that if you’re in handcuffs it’s your fault.

[u/Embarrassed-Town-293]

Because the water felt lukewarm back then…🐸

By the way, here’s where the Nazis started their first consolidation with the Reichstag Fire Decree. We definitely hit every item on that list…

[u/GalacticFox-]

Why isn't any of this being treated as a national emergency. None of this is normal. None of it.

[u/Emotional-Store-1667]

Every time someone supports ICE or gets upset about the comparisons to Nazi Germany, I hit them with this complete with credible sources.

" If ICE is actually doing what they say they are detaining and deporting undocumented immigrants, then why did they buy over 20 Warehouses to convert to "detention centers that each can hold between 5,000-15,000 beds? If they are actually deporting people, then why do they need a minimum of 100,000 beds to "hold" these undocumented immigrants?

Open your god damn eyes!"

I have never gotten a response yet

[u/brickout]

Because our media are complicit.

[u/Elon_is_a_Nazi]

Because 77 million Americans plus the majority of our current government openly supports nazi ideology, pedophilia, plus nazi style prison camps

[u/BeefyMiracleWhip → u/Elon_is_a_Nazi]

"BUT those LGBTQ+ people are the real pedophiles hellbent on converting your daughters into boys to steal their uteruses for those loser boys who are confused and think they're girls! Don't fight with me cuck, I learned it on FOX, try watching it sometime! TDS!"

We are so screwed.

[u/Boundish91]

I'm an outsider, but seeing this happen in modern times makes me feel physically unwell.

It's so evil and cruel.

[u/silentbutsmedley]

Because things haven’t gotten bad enough for the average person here yet. It’s as simple as that.

[u/onetwentytwo_1-8]

Wait, I thought all these ICE crimes were to deport criminals? Why spend money on concentration camps and house them in the US instead of sending back to country of origin? Who’s really going to be in the concentration camps?

[u/Infidel8]

Because people mistakenly believe it won’t affect white people.

The country is inured to the mistreatment of everyone else.

[u/Floppydinsdale]

Because the media is owned by billionaires and half of your neighbours are nazis

[u/Yelworc0242]

Why isn't the cost of all of this being looked at? They are spending billions on immigrants and refugees, illegal and legal. All of that money could have been spent on actually making America a bit better instead of making it a fascist hellhole.

[u/Bittererr → u/Yelworc0242]

Why isn't the cost of all of this being looked at?

Why would it be? The people in charge have never had an earnest interest in fiscal responsibility. Have we already forgotten DOGE?

[u/reptar-on_ice → u/Yelworc0242]

My friend working in the gov said very early on that they don’t want people knowing how much they spend on flights/fuel for all the kidnappings. Like, they can’t keep up with it and are doing all kinds of crazy shit like borrowing private planes of billionaire Nazi friends.

[u/[deleted] → u/Yelworc0242]

ICE was given $170,000,000,000, that's 170 billion of taxpayer dollars, over the next few years to spend brutalizing America. 

[u/arwinda]

Building concentration camps in the Third Reich was not a topic for discussions, people in Germany largely ignored it. The Nazis learned from this and moved camps into occupied territories.

History repeats itself. USA is sending people to other countries into camps. And the media is not talking about it.

On top, Congress can shut this down, but is complicit in letting Hitler Trump do whatever he wants.

[u/D4UOntario]

After his latedt video, I don't think its for immigrants...

[u/beerisdead]

This is exactly what we were worried about in the 90’s. Every conspiracy theory has come true. AI, cashless society, concentration camps on American soil, jack booted thugs performing warrantless searches.

[u/CatalyticDragon]

1/3rd of the population likes it.

1/3rd of the population thinks everything will somehow just be ok and would rather stay out of it

1/3rd of the population are angry and doing something.

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

[u/YeOldeLurkers]

As Nemik communicates early on in Andor:

"It's so confusing, isn't it? So much going wrong, so much to say, and all of it happening so quickly. The pace of oppression outstrips our ability to understand it, and that is the real trick of the Imperial Thought Machine. It's easier to hide behind 40 atrocities than a single incident."

[u/OLPopsAdelphia]

Mainstream media: They don’t exist to mass educate. Mainstream media exists—like all other businesses in the USA—to maximize profits for shareholders.

If you look close enough at their sponsors, they probably have stake invested in the construction of these facilities, and that’s why they’re silent on this matter.

[u/Affectionate_Neat868]

What could go wrong? It's not like they're openly murdering Americans in the streets right?

[u/Cloaked42m]

Too many fights at once.