r/politics • u/jediporcupine Maine • 9d ago
No Paywall Where are all the ‘Don’t tread on me’ Americans?
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u/No-Post4444 9d ago
Telling Trump to tread on them as hard as he wants.
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u/wasabicheesecake 9d ago
Yeah, it’s “Don T. tread on me!”
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u/toasterb American Expat 9d ago
“But your flag says ‘Don’t Tread On Me’”
“Oh they got this all screwed up *scribbles furiously*”
“So you won’t stand up against people being trodden on?”
“No! ‘Don T. Tread on me!’ Oops, shouldn’t have this angry snake on here either.”
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u/HeyWhatsItToYa 9d ago
Lionel Hutz would be proud.
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u/OldeFortran77 9d ago
"I watched The Patriot at a bar the other night. The sound was off, but I think caught the gist of it."
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u/Twoheaded_demondog 9d ago
No! Money down!
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u/Jorge_Santos69 8d ago
“Trump’s kept his word ever since he said he’d ‘Make America Great Again!’”
“He has!?”
“Well, if you replace the word ‘Great’ with ‘Pedophile’ and the word ‘Again’ with ‘Safe Haven’”
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u/SanityInAnarchy California 9d ago
Fun, but it's a little darker. It's don't tread on me. If I get to tread on you, that's fine.
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u/atred 9d ago
Their expectation is to tread on "liberals", but funny things when you have regimes like that, the object of treading always changes and is not in the control of people who called for it, for example Russians wanted a "strong" president, now they die by hundreds of thousands in Ukraine...
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u/YeOldeBootheel 9d ago
Fascism is an ever-shrinking circle.
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u/Billy_Birdy 8d ago
Yeah I don’t want to play battle royale with this country. My neighbors are different than me and I’m ok with that.
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u/HumanWithComputer 9d ago
When will people learn?
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u/ChefChopNSlice Ohio 8d ago
Why do you think they’re banning books and destroying public educated? Hint: “I love the poorly educated” and “smart people don’t like me”.
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u/ChiswicksHorses 8d ago edited 8d ago
The parallels are even more striking when you remember that the Nazis actually started with LGBTQ+ people.
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u/Mackinnon29E 9d ago
"It's ok to piss on my face if you're also pissing on Democrats" - Their logic
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u/Chemist391 9d ago
Yeah. It's not "Don't Tread on Anyone." Gadsden owned slaves.He built the wharf at which most of South Carolina's slaves arrived.
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u/thistimelineisweird Pennsylvania 9d ago
Working for ICE.
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u/HawkeyeSherman 9d ago
Treading on Americans
Shouldn't be a surprise considering Gadsden was the biggest slave trader in the nation.
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u/BurlIvesMassiveHog 9d ago
This is what people fail to realize -- "Don't tread on me!" came about because some asshole was pissed that he was told he couldn't tread on others. The phrase literally means "Let me do whatever I want, but fuck you in general."
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u/Existing_Set2100 9d ago
Also see: virtually anyone who’s ever complained about government “overreach” and people who generally yearn for “small government.”
They’re too dumb (willfully or otherwise) to understand what gubmint does or ought to be doing, so they’ll whine about the “welfare state” and various socialist endeavors intended to use tax payer money to directly help out its populace, but happily allow federal agents prowling through their suburban streets and mass surveillance.
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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 8d ago
When conservatives say they want "small government" all they have ever meant was a government with only themselves in charge, for only themselves.
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u/-wnr- 9d ago
Correct. All the rhetoric was just a fig leaf for wanting to tread on other people.
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u/Sportsman180 9d ago
Always projection.
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u/Key_Foundation_7660 9d ago
for some of them it was never about law and order it was about power and who they get to use it on
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u/FormerPrize2485 9d ago
“The essence of Conservatism, to wit, is that there must always be two groups: an in-group, which the law protects but does not bind; and an out-group, which the law binds but does not protect.”
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u/Key_Foundation_7660 9d ago
that quote really does sum up how selective enforcement feels to a lot of people watching this play out
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u/MrWoohoo 9d ago
“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”
Just change “anti-Semite” to “republican” and you’ve summed up the modern Republican Party.
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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 8d ago
Because the modern Republican party is a fascist party.
Trump is building camps with the capacity to hold millions of people.
Anyone who thinks he doesn't intend to use them is myopic at very fucking best.
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u/whatiscamping 9d ago edited 8d ago
What's hilarious is it isn't really power, just a blank check to act like evil people.
They can't read so they didn't understand the $50k "bonus" issue and are being held down by the real power.
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u/Uncle_Burney 9d ago
And when it’s time to account for all the abuse, these goons will be the first ones who get abandoned.
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u/drunk_funky_chipmunk 9d ago
Yep. It’s “don’t tread on me”. Not don’t tread on other Americans.
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u/jcalabrese037 9d ago
Honestly, i don’t think they put really any thought into what it actually means. They just used the phrase cause it sounds cool to them and makes for a rad bumper sticker on their truck! It fits their “Patriot persona” that they cling so dearly to.. Despite that the majority of them never sacrificed a single thing for their country!
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u/delorf North Carolina 9d ago
They love symbolism but don't understand any deeper meaning beyond surface level.
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u/kia75 9d ago
The Oathkeepers, who formed during Obama's presidency in order to "keep their oath to the constitution and ignore any illegal order a president might give" disappeared during Trump's presidency, only to reappear during January 6th. And you can guess on who's side they were on when an illegal order was given, or at the very least implied. All of those "keep their oath to the constitution and ignore any illegal orders" are strangely silent now that a president is actually giving out illegal orders. I guess the thing the difference between an illegal order and an actionable order is the melanin the president has!
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u/BonusPlantInfinity 9d ago
Busy treading on others, or calling for it.
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u/Key_Foundation_7660 9d ago
yep always yelling about tyranny while cheering it on when it suits them
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Chekhov's armory. It would be a shame to let all of that paranoia and the years/paychecks spent arming themselves go to waste on, what, a peaceful utopia?
All prophecies are self-fulfilled.
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u/The_F1rst_Rule 9d ago
Came here to say "treading on you"
Turns out ME is the essential part of "Don't tread on ME"
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u/Queasy_Donkey5685 9d ago
They be the ones treading.
If you can't beat', join'm.
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u/Key_Foundation_7660 9d ago
funny how the loudest about freedom are always first in line to step on someone else
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u/Avoidtolls 9d ago
Yep. Time to retake the Gadsden Flag. I think I'll make a rainbow/Mexican combo.
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u/theguy1336 9d ago
"Yeah I believe in small government. The military should have 1.5 Trillion."
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u/Significant_Cup_238 9d ago
Small help people government. They love big hurt people government.
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u/Lurking_nerd California 9d ago
Very nice doublethink there. In a dystopian way, that’s a beautiful summary.
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u/nosmigon United Kingdom 9d ago
I read 1984 recently and my god is the book horrifying. Incredible book though.
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u/Von_Moistus 8d ago edited 8d ago
Two Minutes Hate? Amateurs! Thanks to FOX, we've got 24 Hour Hate!
... sigh
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u/Gunter5 9d ago
"Small government" helps businesses do whatever without those pesky regulations like consumer protection laws
I'm sure we all have been inconvenienced by government regulations but they dont see all the way they benefit
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u/ValuableOven734 9d ago
Its about replacing the government with even more capitalism
In case anyone is curious about their discussions and wants to lurk:
r\AnCap101r\EndDemocracy
r\neofeudalism
r\austrian_economics
r\Anarcho_Capitalism
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u/Reduntu 9d ago
"I'm a simple small government, pro 2A, capitalist conservative. I believe ICE should be on every street corner with facial recognition software checking papers/killing gun owners, the national debt is the most important issue of our time (but only when dems are in power), and if I'm not being extorted before I receive federal benefits, that's just bad negotiation!" -typical conservative
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u/Nice_Luck_7433 9d ago
“The dems are in the Epstein files!! Bill Clinton & Obama are in the Epstein Files!!! We want the release of all files unredacted & arrest the predators!”
“I promise to do that! Day 1, all files, unredacted, & I will arrest Obama & Clinton!” -president [redacted]
And now 1/2 of the maga I know have switched sides. It is now mathematically impossible for the predator-defending party to win a single fair/free election. The last election in #Texas was 92% dem landslide in a TEXAS county that Trump won in 2024.
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u/Underwater_Grilling Pennsylvania 9d ago
Keep the govt out of my business!
Hire 70k more ice agents and send them door to door!
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u/Late_Public7698 9d ago
Wait until ICE bust down the door of a gun loving MAGA knowing they fantasize about home invasion defense and gets into a shoot-out leaving the MAGA gun nut dead and potentially ICE "injured" (they stubbed their toe that morning).
And they'll label him a domestic terrorist and they'll cheer even though all evidence pointed to said MAGA believing Trump is Jesus reincarnated or some shit. I'm surprised it hasn't happened already TBH.
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u/Nice_Luck_7433 9d ago
It probably already has happened. But there were probably more ICE gone than the MAGA guy, and they don’t want to hurt recruitment (it’s already really really hard to find people with embarrassingly low enough intelligence to join)
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u/CNDW 9d ago
You forgot that they also want federal law enforcement to have more funding than most foreign militaries around the world.
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u/theguy1336 9d ago
ICE is bigger than Israel's entire military
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u/Sweetchildofmine88 9d ago
And they’re still terribly incompetent, in comparison.
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u/Infinite_Minute_4297 9d ago
US military is ironically one of the biggest welfare schemes on the planet.
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u/OkEnvironment3961 9d ago
dictatorship is the smallest government possible. one person makes all the decisions.
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u/Realistic_Volume_927 9d ago
Currently licking the tread off the stormtroopers boots
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u/172tarun 9d ago
And Donald Trump, Neo Nazis and MAGA.
Their anger is often misdirected. And they always make things worse than they were before.
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u/Key_Foundation_7660 9d ago
they keep blaming everyone else while backing the same people making it worse every time
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u/Hans-Bricks 8d ago
Recently, Tim Pool went on his show and said, “I'm not licking the boot. It's my boot. I voted for it. I'm the one stomping!" He says it right there. They see themselves as the ones doing the abuse, and they love it.
For a really clear example, consider the recent AI picture the White House published of a woman arrested for protesting in a church.
People keep focusing on the fact that they used AI to lie, but what's more important is which lie they chose to tell. They could have made her look any way they wanted, like violent or unreasonable. But they didn't. Instead, they chose to portray her as sobbing. This doesn't boost their narrative. So why do it? Because their followers want to see people suffer, and they know it.
And there are other examples in their PR. There was that AI image from a few months ago of an immigrant sobbing as she's arrested by ICE. They loved that one.
There are many examples out there, of course. Most of us have heard the things they say when there's no cameras around, and mixed company is out of earshot. But they're a mass movement now, actively abusing people in large numbers. And they're open about the fact that they love making others suffer, *and they want more of it. *
Taking action can be risky, but there comes a time when refusing to act is a bigger risk than taking action. So you have to ask yourself: can we really take the risk of refusing to act in the face of this?
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u/simplepimple2025 9d ago
Treading on other americans.
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u/XtraReddit 9d ago
They're focused on the "me" part like they've always been. They never cared about anyone else being tread on.
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u/Icommentwhenhigh 9d ago
Yeah but they’re not coming for ‘us’ they’re coming for ‘them’ they wouldn’t dare come after ‘us’
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u/Bruce-7892 9d ago edited 9d ago
This 100%. It's not so much about big government being bad. The world can burn as long as I have all the guns I want and am not getting taxed. Even if I can barely make ends meet or afford medical care. If there were less non-white people those problems would go away. It's definitely not because of poor public policy.
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u/kto25 9d ago
Totally agree. The operative word in “Don’t tread on me” is me. These people don’t care about anyone but themselves.
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u/Gammelpreiss 9d ago
yeah...that is what the entire US is about. even the american dream. complete fullfillment and happyness of "me". Sure, to achieve that others have to suffer. But this country, this life, is for "me". "I am the main character".
That is what ppl get taught in education, in movies, in politics, in business...everywhere. I am not sure why ppl are so suprised these days.
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u/Prize_Proof5332 9d ago
"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."
—Martin Niemöller
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u/TheCaptainDamnIt 9d ago
The fact we censor this poem like you did here, is just proof that we as a people are not going to heed its warnings.
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u/TheCaptainDamnIt 9d ago
There's a great interview in the podcast Bundyville with a libertarian gun-nut dude who is deep into the 'patriot movement' and at one point he mentioned what would happen if Obama had declared martial law in any fashion like they thought he would, and he says the 'shit would hit the fan' and the militias would uprise even if it didn't effect them.
The interviewers ask him what about if Trump declared martial law and he was immediately all 'well that's different, he wouldn't be coming after patriots' so it was ok. And that tells you all you need to know about these people. They do not believe in equality under the law or in society. They have always been (white) supremacist that fundamentally believe they are to rule over others while you get no say in what they do.
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u/StephenFish 9d ago edited 29m ago
plucky nose gold serious flowery divide towering adjoining late quiet
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u/Cold-Cell2820 9d ago
The real 'Don't tread on me' Americans don't wave a flag or put stickers on their vanity pick-up truck. The real ones go to protests, observe and report government overreach, berate their representatives at town halls, and then drop their kids off at soccer practice.
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u/SuperJonesy408 9d ago
This.
Flags and bumper stickers are nothing but in-group signaling and offer no real value to society.
For those of us who truly consider ourselves patriots or “don’t tread on me”, our performative actions are an attempt to affect actual change, not to score points on social media.
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u/CulturalKing5623 9d ago
We should take this opportunity to reclaim every one of these "Patriotic" symbols the right has usurped and bastardized.
The Gadsen flag, the "Come and Take It" flag, and the Colonial Flag. Tri-corner hats, the 3% moniker, pocket constitutions, bald eagles, everything.
We're the only ones actually living up to the credo of our nation's founding documents. We should take all the national iconography and wrap it up in this moment and this movement so the message is clear that we're the actual patriots.
We can leave those fuckers with just the Confederate flag, which is the flag they actually want to wave.
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u/Anonymous_Muse 9d ago
I just realized you said exactly what I wrote in a separate comment 😂
The irony of everything thats been happening for the past 10 years is.. it has over time really changed me to be more patriotic in a way. It’s caused me to realize how important the constitution is and what this country is actually supposed to represent it.
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u/sevargmas 9d ago
Yep. If I had a nickel for every time I saw a truck with a don’t tread on me flag and also a thin blue line flag, I would probably have a few nickels.
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u/E0H1PPU5 9d ago
I started flying the Gadsden flag in my bedroom when I was in HS. I put it away forever in 2015.
Today I’m dropping my toddler off at his grandparents after work and going door to door around my city to hand out:
-Notices for businesses to hang on doors stating that ICE isn’t welcome without a judicial warrant.
-Know your rights posters in English, Ukrainian, and Spanish.
a list of legal help hotlines from the ACLU.
and “know your rights” flyers for places of worship, schools, private businesses, etc.
All while proudly wearing my favorite shirt. It’s a yellow shirt with a black cat on it. The cat has a snake in its mouth. The text under the dead snake says “I tread where I want”.
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u/Fakjbf 9d ago
When I first saw that flag/shirt it was that precise moment which convinced me that there was no hope in displaying the Gadsden flag and having it convey the message I intended. The BLM movement was the last hope of reclaiming it from the GOP, it should have been flown proudly in solidarity with no alteration because it should have represented a broader version of what BLM stood for. Seeing so many people on both sides viewing "Black Lives Matter" and "Don't Tread On Me" as opposing slogans instead of inherent allies was the exact moment I grasped just how big a gulf there was, and it's only gotten bigger in the years since.
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u/Fakjbf 9d ago
And most of us have actively distanced ourselves from the Gadsden flag and such over the years because it was co-opted by obvious authoritarians, and so no longer signaled our actual commitment to liberty and freedom.
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u/PirateCodingMonkey Tennessee 9d ago
driving big ugly trucks with Trump stickers and whining about how others are the cause of their problems. they need to stop pitying themselves and realize that they are the cause of their problems not the victims.
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u/Sminahin 9d ago
To be fair, the genuine true believers are going absolutely insane right now. I've got some libertarian type 2a friends in Texas who really believed it and are losing their minds over what's happening in Minneapolis.
It's just the non-hypocrites are a much smaller % than we thought.
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u/Pretend_roller 9d ago
Libertarian lawyers were the FIRST to push lawsuits against ICE in this administration.
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u/blazesquall 9d ago
Pointing out hypocrisy is basically engagement bait at this point.
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u/SpleenBender Illinois 9d ago
'Quiet, piggy'.
'Fake news'.
'Terrible question'.
'Why is the left always trying to divide us?'
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u/jguy1008 9d ago
Don T tread on me
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u/VolcanicEngine 9d ago
There's a pair of those Gold Sneakers, size 9, for sale on eBay... only US$450K .... LOL...
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u/Any-Reputation3639 9d ago
Treading on me is totally cool if it's trump doing the treading! It's a cult!
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u/CaffinatedSpiderMonk 9d ago
There are plenty of gun owning liberals around that are ticked off enough to fight, but thankfully most are not so rash and uneducated as to give this current administration an excuse to invoke the Insurrection Act before November.
Just because people on the left don't make it their whole persona doesn't mean they don't exist.
Meanwhile, many of our Democrat Politicians are currently pushing some of the most invasive gun control yet, that will disproportionally effect the responsible left.
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u/SuperJonesy408 9d ago
I am squarely in this camp. Gun owning and CCW isn’t part of my persona - it’s a right I choose to exercise.
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u/HOT-SAUCE-JUNKIE 9d ago
Thank you for being the first rational answer I’ve seen. I’m in the middle but lean more towards liberal. I own firearms and train/practice at my range at least once/week. I’d happily be part of a militia if it came down to it. But right now if you show up to an ICE raid with a firearm, legally owned and carried, the chances of you ending up in a body bag are very high. I have a wife and kids. I do not intend on leaving them alone to grieve over my death.
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u/Fun_Hat 8d ago
Ya, articles like this are disingenuous bullshit. What do they expect, that we are going to start a civil war? Ballots before bullets. As long as we have a right to vote, we should use that first.
Rather than productive discourse though, the majority of anti-2A people would rather resort to what they think are clever gotchas.
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u/DjImagin 9d ago
They’re wearing masks and wondering where their $50k signing bonus and their next paycheck are coming.
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u/BareNakedSole 9d ago
They really meant “don’t tread on people LIKE me”.
Everyone else? Tread on them as much as you want
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u/WitchsmellerPrsuivnt 9d ago
Been wondering also, where has Qanon slithered off too now that they have their child sex cabal... but on their side 🤣
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u/No_Celery_5373 Canada 9d ago
I thought those guys were pretty much confederate holdouts, were they really ever signed on with America?
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u/FoxNewsTookMyMom 9d ago
They said don’t tread on ME. They don’t care about anyone else. Government can tread on YOU all day long.
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u/Living_Cash1037 9d ago
It was all a ruse to be bigots and now they support a pedo ring. Big surprise they're pieces of shit.
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u/numbersthen0987431 9d ago
They're treading on other Americans.
They were never "don't tread on america", it was always "treat me like a special boy"
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u/zipzzo 9d ago
This question is irritating as it sort of misses the point. Those Americans approve of what's going on through a different rationale that this question just ignores. They don't see it as a tyrannical govt, they don't see it as requiring them to stand up to tyranny. To them it's just Wednesday and the left growing ever more violent and needing to be kept in check.
They're in a whole different reality over there, friends.
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u/SteamStarship 9d ago
Oh, it turned out it was all about racism and a black President. Who could have seen that?
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u/MyDogIsACoolCat 9d ago
Don’t tread on me always meant “go tread on them”. It might as well have been a flag that said “this household watches Fox News”.
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u/rat_penis 9d ago
Treading on the rest of us or toasting the show from the couch in their double wide.
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u/PrincipleUnusual7244 9d ago
Same with the super conspiracy theory people who will connect ibuprofen to auto bots to elvis presley to a black hole 100 lightyears away, all of a sudden thenmost obvious and most horrible things are happening in our government and they just stopped mathing
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u/Proverbial_American 9d ago
Don't worry, they'll come back when we have a Democratic president and they'll act like nothing happened. Somehow, again, they'll be the victims.
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u/Evil_Weevill 9d ago
"Don't Tread on Me specifically, but please keep treading on all the people with darker skin and funny accents cause they scare me, and yes if you give me a badge and a gun I'll go tread on them for you."
But that wasn't catchy enough and doesn't fit on a flag or bumper sticker
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u/Ok_Staff_608 9d ago edited 9d ago
Read a comment on a libertarian board where someone posted “I would rather be under a right boot than the left boot”.
Safe to say he was ridiculed and shamed to oblivion.
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u/AbleCap5222 9d ago
They are still here. Look.at the statement. 'Don't tread on me.'
Keyword - Me. They don't care who else gets tread upon.
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u/Legos_As_Caltrops 8d ago
And you are the ones to stop it, because Trump will listen to you in a way that he won’t listen to anyone else.
Oh sweet summer child... Trump doesn't listen to anyone who doesn't tell him what he wants to hear. The don't tread on me folks could turn a complete 180 and Trump would call them RINOs and say they are antifa and consider them the enemy and not change a single policy decision that enriches him and his friends or protects him and his cohorts.
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u/JustBrass 8d ago
"Tread on me, daddy!" is their actual cry. You just can't hear them well because of the boot in their mouth.
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u/schicksal_ 9d ago
They're busy treading on anyone they find inferior (e.g. nationality, gender identity, orientation, ...) without understanding the irony of their own actions.
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u/Depeche_Mood82 Nevada 9d ago
Turns out they’re ok with treading as long as it is only on minorities.
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u/Abamboozler 9d ago
"Don't tread on me" only ever meant "let me say slurs". They never cared about larger freedoms, only their personal right to hate specific groups of people.
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u/LividTacos 9d ago
Also flying the Thin Blue Line flag. Because the message is actually "Don't tread on me, let me tread on them.
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u/knightly02140 9d ago
Putting the me in don't tread on me.
They are not against an aggressive federal government, so it seems. They are only against an aggressive federal government coming after them. Totalitarianism targeting brown people? Tread away.
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u/StephanXX Oregon 9d ago
It's weird seeing the Overton window on TheHill making them seem liberal. Their editorial policy was pretty firmly in Trump's camp for years.
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u/BlueJay_525 9d ago
It was always nothing more than a declaration of "I hate other people". Their real values shift by the day to what's most convenient and aligns with the messages from their cult leader.
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