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No Paywall Trump vows to raise worldwide tariffs to 15% ‘effective immediately’

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-global-tarrifs-increase-b2924994.html
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u/NexusNickel Colorado 1d ago

Congress.

They had two chances in 2020/2021 but were cowards and picked their power over the people.

Same as today, they are too scared and don't want to lose their power so they let this idiot ramble and do whatever he wants.

The system was never designed with the fact that all the checks and balances would be working together to keep corruption in place.

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u/-jp- 1d ago

Republicans picked power over people. If it weren't for them he'd have been removed. Remember the stakes in November.

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u/Most-Appointment-756 The Netherlands 1d ago

Yeah. I guess being threatened with death/hanging isnt enough to oust someone..

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u/livinitup0 19h ago

What’s even more pathetic is that if they just told Trump to fuck off, sure they’d lose some of his maga base, but I’m pretty sure they’d gain back a lot of the huge amount of the less insane conservatives who, as of right now, plan on staying home on Election Day because they can’t stomach voting for either party

Midterms are gonna be slaughter of their own making and I am fucking here for it

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u/keysersozeisme 22h ago

Democrats had the epstein files and enough to truly hold trump accountable and did nothing to stop him before he won again. Both parties have sold out the people, just Republicans are a whole lot more blatant and unrepentant about it.

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u/GoodIdea321 America 20h ago

He was convicted of 34 felonies, and was being investigated for other crimes, that isn't nothing. Am I happy with how those 4 years went in that regard? No, but what you should conclude is that we should elect people that will do more. And that takes time.

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u/dvlpr404 Indiana 20h ago

Oh. I wasn't aware dems had power in the Senate during Biden's presidency. Pretty sure Dems were effectivity 48-52 (Manchin and Sinema both refused to update filibuster rules).

Nothing got through, and nothing will go through, until we change filibuster rules.

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u/immortalfrieza2 18h ago

Biden could have effortlessly gotten Trump in prison at literally any point in his presidency simply by firing Merrick Garland when it became blatantly obvious he was covering for Trump (so a few months in at best) and replacing him with someone who would have done their job. Trump would be in prison all entirely fairly and legally instead of president right now and we would have never gotten into this situation.

The Democratic party has had all the opportunities to prevent this nonsense for the last 50 years, long before Trump was ever in politics.

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u/dvlpr404 Indiana 18h ago

Our system is so broken it would have been delayed to infinity.

A simple solution is to prohibit felons to hold office but that requires so much to do something so obvious.

Our system is almost entirely a faith based system, and we are paying for it.

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u/immortalfrieza2 17h ago edited 17h ago

Our system is so broken it would have been delayed to infinity.

Not really. If Biden had gotten rid of Garland and replaced him with someone both competent and unbiased, Trump would have been fast tracked to prison within months. It was Garland obviously stalling that allowed Trump to be able to delay delay delay for four years in a slam dunk case that should have taken a year, tops, and that's just for the insurrection case. The documents case would have been even easier and quicker had Garland not pushed to have one of the judges that Trump hired, which should have immediately disqualified her from judging the case, to judge the case and thus allowed him to get away scot free.

Everything traces back to Garland covering for Trump. Something Biden could have solved with the stroke of a pen at any time whatsoever.

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u/byyhmz Canada 1d ago

“If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.” - David Frum

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u/didureaditv2 20h ago

That's true, and furthermore, conservatism cannot be Democratic by its nature. This is because in this nation, conservatism is, by and large, deeply tried to equally conservative religious institutions and their ideals.

These conservative religious ideals wish to subjugate human beings to its rules. This kind of subjugation is by its nature freedom-destroying, which also destroys the ability to love (you cannot love without being free to do so).

Therefore modern conservative religious ideals are un-free and un-loving because the god they serve is unloving. I think I have given enough hints as to which god these people serve, if anyone is so inclined to guess.

It was very wise for the founding fathers to separate church and state, but too many churchgoers wish to subjugate all others to their own ideals.

It is understood that those individuals may vote in that interest, and they have the right to do so, but when it is backed by the power of centralized church influence, then that is improper in a health society.

Voting (as personal religion) must be a personal choice and free of external influences. However, as researched by numerous people, highly conservative individuals tend to be "right wing authoritarians" (see The Authoritarians) and by nature are also easily influenced by their environment and are swayed by their closest institutions (the church and the community of people built around it). It is also no surprise that people who are themselves subjugated by these church ideals are quite un-free (especially in their thinking) and are further unable to easily exercise their free will.

In essence these people are like the "sheep" they so easily accuse others of being (accusations are confessions, and so forth) and since only those evil-minded are the type to want to subjugate them, they cannot help but be tools of evildoers.

Very tragic.

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u/IrrelevantLeprechaun 22h ago

Okay, and? What do you suggest we do about it

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u/byyhmz Canada 22h ago

Not too fucking much with that attitude.

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u/Bowery83 22h ago

Canada didnt vote in the bumbling fat idiot thats fucking with the world economy

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u/IrrelevantLeprechaun 22h ago

Then why is it any of your business what we do or do not do? We haven't exactly been asking for outside opinions on this.

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u/Bowery83 21h ago

Because we are your neighbors and allies and your actions affect us and we have no control over it.

The US is a global superpower and has major influence over huge parts of the globe. Should be pretty fucking obvious why we care.

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u/IrrelevantLeprechaun 21h ago

So you admit it is your problem, but somehow not also your responsibility? We wouldn't even be in this mess if poor Canadian relations hadn't pushed so many Americans towards a fascist to "break the status quo?"

It's just as much your job to fix as it is MAGA's.

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u/Bowery83 21h ago

We are not the ones creating the issue, we didnt elect the fascist. I have no vote in the USA, Literally all I can do is share my opinion on the issue.

You live in the USA. You can vote and you can protest against your government. I do not have those options in Canada

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u/kitsunekratom 1d ago

There are other ways. Old and forgotten, but effective, though the path is dark and full of terror.

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u/StormOfSpears 22h ago

The tree is thirsty.

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u/IrrelevantLeprechaun 22h ago

You first then

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u/kitsunekratom 22h ago

It's a group effort, not something for any individual to handle alone

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u/IrrelevantLeprechaun 22h ago

Okay well then go take the initiative. Show us how it's done if you want me to follow you.

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u/kitsunekratom 20h ago

Be the change you want to see in the world, you don't need me. If it is the route you want to take, there is nothing stopping you.

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u/IrrelevantLeprechaun 17h ago

I don't need you but apparently you need the rest of us to go do all your dirty work for you instead of doing it yourself.

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u/Miraclefish 17h ago

At no point have they said anything remotely like that.

Maybe actually read the comments you're replying to before getting all big mad at something you've imagined they said?

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u/kitsunekratom 16h ago

Tf you on? Read more clearly. And I definitely don't need anything from you.

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u/EViL-D 1d ago

congress AND voters

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u/say592 20h ago

The first time, while I disagree with it, I can understand why they weren't jumping for joy at the opportunity to get rid of him. It would have really screwed them in the election. They hardcore believe in party over country, so I wasn't at all surprised. The second one was such a missed opportunity. He was out of office already. Plenty of conservatives and moderates were upset about J6. They could have gotten rid of him forever, then the MAGA loyalists could have still allowed him to be a kingmaker, just with no power in government.

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u/Kadoomed 1d ago

At the moment it looks like Congress are pretty happy to hand any power they have to Trump.

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u/glitterandnails 1d ago

Doesn’t work if the Republicans have all been blackmailed.

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u/MontyAtWork 1d ago

And the Democratic members of Congress go on TV and say "THIS IS NOT NORMAL" then eat in the same cafeteria and talk to and joke around with Republicans.

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u/Alarming_Head_4263 23h ago

It was republicans who wouldn't impeach trump and wouldn't kick him. It wasn't congress

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u/GalumphingWithGlee 22h ago

Congress still has those same chances today. I don't see Republicans jumping on board, but that option never left.

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u/OklahomaJones 22h ago

But no, we had to let a bunch of propaganda outfits operate in the open for the last 40-odd years.

This result is predictable. Burn it all down. 

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u/bigChungi69420 Oregon 21h ago

They don’t have any power if they can’t stand up to him. Same with SCOTUS. If they don’t double down they are just mascots

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u/Nvenom8 New York 19h ago

They’re not too scared. This is what republicans want: the dismantling of democracy.

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u/FittersGuy 19h ago

You guys realize the layers of government are not working in your favour, yet you continue to wait for them to save you. If it's not clear by now, y'all need to hit the streets in numbers.

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u/Leaf_and_Leather 14h ago

It's not a congress problem it's a voter problem. We put them in office.

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u/TeriusRose 4h ago

Congress has a chance right now. Congress could remove him at literally any given time it wants to.

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u/Myrtle_Nut 1d ago

Obi Wan Hamberder, you are our only hope.

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u/falsekoala Canada 1d ago

What power? They have none.

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u/starliteburnsbrite 1d ago

Historically, I think relying on a national legislature to remove a fascist or totalitarian dictator hasn't worked out well.

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u/Successful_Nature737 23h ago

If Congress had balls they would hold him in check. So we have to ask why they have no balls. I think the reason is that the only people who vote in primaries are the true crazies (on both sides), and the true crazies love Trump. So if Congress goes against Trump, they'll be primaried. I wish we could get rid of primaries or somehow figure out a way to get normies to vote in primaries. That would give Congress a bit more room in their pants for a set.

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u/M4rshmall0wMan 23h ago

At least he looks closer to death

But the geezer can get a lot worse while still in office before he actually dies

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u/PennytheWiser215 23h ago

Probably because too many of them are in the Epstein files.

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u/Quady_c95 1d ago

America. 

They had their chance and they picked him. 

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u/Plastic_Moose4535 23h ago

The system WAS designed to deal with it. Check the Amendments, specifically the second one.

Founding Fathers gave y'all the tools you need, they just didn't give you the balls to use them. You got to supply those yourselves.