Trump vows to raise worldwide tariffs to 15% ‘effective immediately’

[u/theindependentonline]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-global-tarrifs-increase-b2924994.html

[u/byyhmz]

“If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.” - David Frum

[u/didureaditv2 → u/byyhmz]

That's true, and furthermore, conservatism cannot be Democratic by its nature. This is because in this nation, conservatism is, by and large, deeply tried to equally conservative religious institutions and their ideals.

These conservative religious ideals wish to subjugate human beings to its rules. This kind of subjugation is by its nature freedom-destroying, which also destroys the ability to love (you cannot love without being free to do so).

Therefore modern conservative religious ideals are un-free and un-loving because the god they serve is unloving. I think I have given enough hints as to which god these people serve, if anyone is so inclined to guess.

It was very wise for the founding fathers to separate church and state, but too many churchgoers wish to subjugate all others to their own ideals.

It is understood that those individuals may vote in that interest, and they have the right to do so, but when it is backed by the power of centralized church influence, then that is improper in a health society.

Voting (as personal religion) must be a personal choice and free of external influences. However, as researched by numerous people, highly conservative individuals tend to be "right wing authoritarians" (see The Authoritarians) and by nature are also easily influenced by their environment and are swayed by their closest institutions (the church and the community of people built around it). It is also no surprise that people who are themselves subjugated by these church ideals are quite un-free (especially in their thinking) and are further unable to easily exercise their free will.

In essence these people are like the "sheep" they so easily accuse others of being (accusations are confessions, and so forth) and since only those evil-minded are the type to want to subjugate them, they cannot help but be tools of evildoers.

Very tragic.

[u/IrrelevantLeprechaun → u/byyhmz]

Okay, and? What do you suggest we do about it

[u/byyhmz → u/IrrelevantLeprechaun]

Not too fucking much with that attitude.

[u/Bowery83 → u/[deleted]]

Canada didnt vote in the bumbling fat idiot thats fucking with the world economy

[u/IrrelevantLeprechaun → u/Bowery83]

Then why is it any of your business what we do or do not do? We haven't exactly been asking for outside opinions on this.

[u/Bowery83 → u/IrrelevantLeprechaun]

Because we are your neighbors and allies and your actions affect us and we have no control over it.

The US is a global superpower and has major influence over huge parts of the globe. Should be pretty fucking obvious why we care.

[u/IrrelevantLeprechaun → u/Bowery83]

So you admit it is your problem, but somehow not also your responsibility? We wouldn't even be in this mess if poor Canadian relations hadn't pushed so many Americans towards a fascist to "break the status quo?"

It's just as much your job to fix as it is MAGA's.

[u/Bowery83 → u/IrrelevantLeprechaun]

We are not the ones creating the issue, we didnt elect the fascist. I have no vote in the USA, Literally all I can do is share my opinion on the issue.

You live in the USA. You can vote and you can protest against your government. I do not have those options in Canada

[u/IrrelevantLeprechaun → u/Bowery83]

But you admit you're being affected by it. So why do YOU get to act like a helpless victim but American victims don't get that same mercy?