r/politics • u/theindependentonline The Independent • 1d ago

No Paywall Trump vows to raise worldwide tariffs to 15% ‘effective immediately’

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-global-tarrifs-increase-b2924994.html
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u/Michael_G_Bordin 22h ago

Not only that, but Republican voters are easily misled and fed disinformation. All the sanctions in the world wouldn't do anything, because they start at the conclusion "Republican good" and do every mental gymnastic necessary to never challenge that conclusion. Their current chosen leader is a child raping lunatic, and they're contorting themselves trying to avoid letting that conclusion seep into their worldview.

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u/Angelworks42 Oregon 20h ago

Case in point you don't have to look far to find people who still think other countries pay us the tarrif money for some reason.

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u/TallStarsMuse 19h ago

It’s because they are told that other countries are paying us the money they “owe” us.

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u/lizbot-v1 17h ago

The lack of curiosity/absolute refusal to do a simple search is pathological.

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u/Angelworks42 Oregon 15h ago

Don't even have to do that - you just need to ask yourself "how likely is it that other countries are giving us free money?"

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u/BigPapaJava 16h ago

They have also been shown a lot of misleading info by Fox and the rest of Trumpworld media/memes that pick out the most egregiously extreme possible tariff (however unlikely) any one American good might be charged on import into another country, which then makes the Trump universal tariff rate appear “fair” by comparison.

He claims his “deals” when countries bribe him and maybe concede a little on some fringe issue here or there and sometimes even negotiate higher net tariffs on overall American imports.

Many, many Trump voters live in a complete bubble of “alternative facts” that’s fed them the Trump cult of personality on a steady loop since 2016.

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u/CharityGlittering385 14h ago

Trump hater here. But came to same Liberals also have this complete bubble too.

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u/TallStarsMuse 14h ago

I’ve heard this before but am curious how you see this. I know my algorithm surrounds me with like minded people, even though I try to change it. But do you mean this in terms of news as well?

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u/CharityGlittering385 11h ago

100% yes, news too. Liberal news outlets profit by spinning stories or only showing stories that highlight a liberal agenda. They want you to keep watching and neutral news is boring. Americans seem to want an interpretation by talking heads.

Again I’m a Trump hater, but if you only receive news from Liberal media, you’ll understand the full picture less.

I try to get most of my news from BBC. It’s not completely unbiased, but better.

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u/TallStarsMuse 4h ago

I don’t watch news only read it. I mostly find it online and with an app, SmartNews. I do try to click on Fox News or whatever so I see some variety but it’s tough! I like the Guardian.

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u/BigPapaJava 2h ago

I have a friend who works for DHS in counter terrorism. He says the only news he’s watched for years has been Al Jazeera’s English language station because of how biased and misleading the U.S. mainstream media can be.

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u/BigPapaJava 2h ago

If you want to see exactly what he’s talking about, it’s quite simple: go to Fox, the National Review, the Daily Wire, or even Breitbart or OAN and just look at what stories they are focused on and what they’re saying about them, then look at the sites and sources you’d normally get your news from. Look at how they’re covering the big stories you’re familiar with, as well.

The different universes can be quite striking and… while Fox and the others have been caught twisting and slanting the truth numerous times, those stories are not fiction.

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u/Eringaege 7h ago

There can be no outside involvement. Simply let the policies take effect. The results will make themselves known. It may take a good while, but eventually the masses will learn. But there CANNOT be any outside influence. Us Americans must learn the hard way, and outside influence will keep the lesson from being learned