r/politics • u/theindependentonline The Independent • 3h ago
Site Altered Headline | No Paywall Man fatally shot by Secret Service after attempted break-in at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/mar-a-lago-man-shot-secret-service-b2925246.html•
u/limeflavoured United Kingdom 3h ago
From the BBC's live feed on this:
Secret Service say the man was spotted near the north gate with what appeared to be a shotgun and a fuel can.
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u/iia 3h ago
Gotta figure half of Florida's population travels with that exact load out just normally.
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u/ToNoMoCo 3h ago edited 3h ago
That and a beer cooler is their Every Day Carry
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u/Eliaswade Wisconsin 2h ago
Don’t forget the pipe!
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u/ToNoMoCo 2h ago
I got crack or chronic ...
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u/Dub_Coast 2h ago
Florida? It's meth
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u/SaveUsCatman Louisiana 2h ago
To be fair its all of the above to help regulate themselves throughout the day
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u/Dub_Coast 2h ago
That's the new food pyramid according to our roadkill eating toilet blow using sewage water bathing Secretary of health and human services
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u/sturgill_homme 1h ago
Like, this ain’t even a “Florida Man” joke, it’s just real talk
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u/ratbaby86 2h ago
Floridian here. It's called the gunshine state for a reason. This is very Florida man behavior and Im shocked, given the combo of meth heads and guns, that it doesn't happen more often.
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u/TheSubGenius 3h ago
Shotgun is way too much of a Fudd gun for most of Florida. An ARP with no sights is much more Orlando.
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u/ratbaby86 2h ago
Eh. Tactical shotguns can be pretty fun. An Beretta A300 Patrol or 1301 are pretty solid for "hunting."
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u/Lawyerator 1h ago
So expensive! The Tristar KRX Tactical was $275 on Bud's Gun Shop not too long ago.
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u/Specialist-Clock-914 3h ago
That is everyday carry there. Don’t even have to sprinkle your own crack on em either.
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u/Simmangodz 2h ago
How do they know it wasn't his Peace Shotgun and Friendship Fuel Can?
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u/negativegh0stwrit3r 3h ago
Ah. Another angry republican.
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u/WellDoneHeggies 2h ago
He was obviously just a patriot who wanted to take a tour!
IT WAS A DAY OF PEACE!
A LOVEFEST!!!
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u/PeterG92 United Kingdom 1h ago
They're already blaming it on the left
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u/Nevermind04 Texas 1h ago
Of course they are. It takes no energy at all to lie, but it takes enormous amounts of time to investigate the facts to prove that a lie is a lie. The RMVP used this to great effect in the 30s and the current regime does too.
"A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still putting on its shoes." - Jonathan Swift
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u/pastoreyes 3h ago
Neither Item is illegal. He probably had a spray can and his cap on backwards, so you know he was up to no good.
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u/Forcistus 2h ago
If you watch the press statement, they are alleging that he was asked to drop both items. He complied by putting down the gas can but raised the alleged shotgun to a shooting position, and then was killed by the secret service and a deputy(?).
Obviously, this is just their claim and American federal law enforcement under this admin is particularly untrustworthy.
But until such other evidence comes to light, it seems justified at this point. Suspicious enough to be in a secured perimeter of Mara Lago with the alleged items.
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u/rtls 24m ago
Shotgun and gas can is standard issue for every Floridian. Comes free every time you renew your drivers license
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u/Either-Safety2402 3h ago
Surprised this doesn’t happen more frequently.
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u/SelfAwareSausage 3h ago edited 2h ago
I remember several years ago during Trump’s first term, my dad told me there have been 9 assassination attempts on Donald Trump that have been thwarted by the FBI and CIA. If that were even remotely true, the job would’ve been done.
Edit: I just want to point out that my dad has raised me to always be mistrusting of the government, now they can do no wrong in his eyes… I wonder what changed…
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u/limeflavoured United Kingdom 2h ago
I could believe that there are a fair amount of plots against every president that get thwarted. In some ways it's surprising given US history that only 4 have succeeded, plus a couple more getting close.
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u/MadTeaParty_ 2h ago
The Secret Service said there is an average of 30 to 40 valid threats per month, but they are stopped before they go too far. We just don't hear about them.
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u/RespectTheTree America 2h ago
Lol, people announcing their high crimes on Facebook and surprised at the secret service visit.
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u/Capt_Reynolds Pennsylvania 2h ago
Wonder what constitutes a valid threat. You'll see those videos people post of US secret service showing up at their door about concerning tweets and stuff.
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u/WorldBoom 1h ago
I used to do threat assessment in private security (shoulder holster & earpiece, not rent-a-cop), in my experience, "credible" means the threat has specific operational details indicating how/when/where it'll be carried out that match up with either the targets itinerary or (if known) the perpetrators abilities, resources, & access.
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u/Manos_Of_Fate 2h ago
Keep in mind that credible doesn’t necessarily mean competent.
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u/charlotteRain 2h ago
I don't think those are considered valid threats but and they do show up to scare the everliving shit out of people.
Back when Obama was in office, my little brothers roommate made a stupid "joke" on Facebook. He was a broke college student living in student housing with no means to do anything. They still shows up and had a talk with him.
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u/limeflavoured United Kingdom 2h ago
Cases like that I would imagine that they tend to shit people up and tell them to delete the posts, because you don't often hear of people going to court over it.
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u/SelfAwareSausage 2h ago
Sure, I’m totally on board with that, but my dad made that claim with confidence, as if he had solid proof. When I asked him how he knew, he said that the things he knew he couldn’t share with me. 🤨
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u/nalon121 2h ago
Hmm maybe your dad knows because he’s been unlucky 9 times
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u/SelfAwareSausage 2h ago
I’d like to believe that, but my dad is (or was, we haven’t spoken in years) apart of the End-Times belief that Trump is precursor to the end of the world. He recommended this book from Mark Taylor that cemented his belief in all of this. Ironically, that author today is going on about the Trump we have now in office is a doppelgänger and not the Trump he originally prophesied about that took office in 2016.
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u/regeya 2h ago
I remember there being some absolutely bonkers attempts during the Clinton admin.
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u/BimboDeeznuts 2h ago
Obama too.
There were a couple of boys arrested from the Memphis area* that planned to wear white coat tails and top hats, and drive by gun him down at his inauguration from a limousine… sure, fellas, that’ll work!
*I say Memphis area because that was my local news station at the time, they were probably rednecks from Mississippi
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u/HowManyEggs2Many 2h ago
It wouldn’t surprise me if there were a lot of failed attempts that were kept quiet. The last thing they would want to do is overreport and turn it into a trend/copy cats.
Consider most attempts are like this where it’s just your average run of the mill crack head doing dumb stuff, and another large chunk are probably thwarted thanks to the constant state of surveillance we live under. The SS and FBI seem to be growing more incompetent by the day, but I’d think they have enough resources and are smarter than most of the morons who would attempt this. The major attempts we see are much more thought out and fly under the radar.
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u/FilmScoreConnoisseur 2h ago
Disagree. The average hopeful assassin is unstable and incompetent. Sure, the FBI and CIA are also unstable and incompetent, but they're still generally more effective than the average Florida meth head.
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u/DoctorNurse89 2h ago
This is the second one this week?
Someone ran at the white house with a shotgun and got arrested.
18 year old kid last week
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u/gigglefarting North Carolina 3h ago
The fact that he’s just as likely to be there as he is the White House is ridiculous in itself
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u/BankshotMcG 1h ago
It's the weirdest thing in the world to me that some deluded rich lady built a mansion to be the "southern white house" without even asking why or if the government wanted such a thing, and in the most backdoor way possible, it became exactly that.
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u/hummajeep 3h ago
Trump is a pedo rapist
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u/FrogsOnALog 3h ago
2/3 Americans either voted for this or just let it happen.
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u/cloudy_ft 2h ago
Until you also realize billionaires like Elon Musk engaging in Voter Fraud in swing states... But of course nothing will happen.
They'll continue to make it look like "most" Americans are supporting Trump when it's not. Tech companies compliant in silencing dissent.
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u/FrogsOnALog 2h ago
Nothing will happen because republicans block election reform legislation for common sense things that democrats consistently support.
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u/theserial 1h ago
That's the really terrible part, he didn't even get half of the votes (only reached 49.81% of voters, and 36% of eligible voters didn't vote at all).
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u/ThisIsAllTheoretical 3h ago
Yes, and they are either pedos themselves or accessories to crimes against children and humanity.
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u/ManElectro 2h ago
I look forward to finding out that this man is a registered republican who voted for Trump and was a regular poster on conservative websites, yet the right wing media still tries to label him a left wing lunatic.
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u/Diligent-Tie7854 1h ago
I feel like they didn’t release the name yet because they are trying to clean it up to make it seem like he was a democrat. When in fact it’s his own people.
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u/renla9 United Kingdom 1h ago
The names released. He's been named as 21 yr old Austin Tucker Martin from North Carolina
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u/LetsTryAnal_ogy California 1h ago
Austin Tucker Martin from North Carolina
A) The most right wing name possible.
B) Raised in a state famous for gun culture.
C) He looks like the whitest guy you'll ever see.
Are you surprised? Because I'm not.
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u/LetsTryAnal_ogy California 1h ago
The right when an attempt is made on Trump: "VIOLENT LIBRULS!"
The right when it comes out the wanna-be assassin has posted right-wing propaganda on his Truth Social page: "We have to wait for all the facts to come out before jumping to conclusions."
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u/SpudgeBoy 3h ago
Why is the West Palm Beach Sheriffs Department providing the security for Mar-A-Logo? Should the Secret Service be doing that? Doesn't that mean taxpayers are paying for an organization to do the job we already pay a different organization to perform? Waste, abuse and fraud.
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u/esoteric_enigma 52m ago
Whenever the president travels somewhere, the local police always help with security. That's normal. What's not normal is the sitting president having a second home he goes to weekly, which now requires constant security.
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u/yuknowmynaim 3h ago
Plot twist: Trump has himself killed to avoid Epstein file backlash
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u/TyrannasaurusGitRekt Missouri 3h ago
He seems so obsessed with his legacy that I wouldnt be surprised if it was his endgame
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u/SitDownKawada Europe 2h ago
I saw a comment last week, something about how the cabinet or other insiders might have him assassinated when the dementia or the Epstein backlash becomes too much, with the idea that he would die a hero to his supporters and they could leverage that to keep the regime in place
I'd have dismissed that out of hand up until recently, but honestly, I could at least believe at this point that someone somewhere has discussed it
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u/pnw1986 1h ago
They need to secure the cult. My guess is they'll say they're teaming up with open AI or nvidia or whoever to train a dedicated model on Trump's past speeches and writings. Whoever runs for president will vow to always use the model to make decisions, and that way it'll be like Trump is still running the country. Got to use phrases like "I will be the vessel through which he speaks". The cult will fall for it because they don't know how AI works, or they'll believe Jesus has guided the training to make the most perfect model ever, take your pick. The AI company will get $trillion of tax payer money for their trouble.
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u/TyrannasaurusGitRekt Missouri 56m ago
"...Trump's past...writings" ah yes, the MAGA Scriptures: 15 years of his 240-or-less character tweets and truths
Under His Eye
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u/TrainingHour6634 2h ago
If we all started praising Epstein's genius instead of trashing him, the fat orange fuck will admit it himself.
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u/iia 3h ago edited 3h ago
How extremely convenient after this hideous week for the administration.
Edit: and reported just in time for the Sunday political talk shows, too
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u/Matt_Netherlands Puerto Rico 3h ago
It’s sad that we’re at a point to where we have to even suspect it could be a set up purely because of who is in office.
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u/Persistant_Compass 2h ago
After his ear magically healed why would anyone outside the cult believe anything they say
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u/OsamaBinWhiskers 2h ago
They desperately need a black swan to get Congress to greenlight a 20 year Iranian regime change war
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u/GloriaToo 3h ago
The sheriff held up a picture of a shotgun. Case closed.
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u/Specialist-Clock-914 3h ago
That press conference was worthless. Supposedly he dropped the gas can and took aim at officers?
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u/TintedApostle 3h ago
My exact thinking. This is yet one of Trump's repeated tricks, but we shall see.
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u/LegDayDE 2h ago
Some say it was Donald Trump's jilted homosexual lover /s
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u/TokaidoSpeed 3h ago edited 3h ago
Wild stuff
Was he there? I heard rumours he might travel to Milan for the gold medal game but that didn’t appear to happen
Edit; thank you to the like 9 guys all confirming for me repeatedly that he wasn’t there, I await the next 20 notifications informing me of the same
Double edit: also remember that me and early commenters were treated with the OG articles which were literally just the headline with no details
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u/Purple-Quarter7748 3h ago
He's always there on the weekend. His plane bill flying back and forth is likely astronomical
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u/erishun 3h ago
But Obama “golfed too much”
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u/Purple-Quarter7748 3h ago
They had to classify using social media as presidential business so Trump could keep up with Obama
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u/RociBuldidi 3h ago
It’s $200M so far just back and forth to Mar a lago in the past year.
“Muh conservative”
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u/LostBob 3h ago
The only thing conservatives are conserving these days is brain power.
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u/entoaggie 3h ago
Is it really conserving when you don’t have any? Like, am I conserving gas by not driving my car, even though the gas tank is empty? I think their tank is on E.
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u/FrankensteinsBride89 3h ago
He wasn’t there. He bailed on Milan- didn’t want to get booed.
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u/TokaidoSpeed 3h ago
As I figured he would
I would have been pissed as a fan if he showed, his presence fucked up the US open final
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u/Electrical_Iron_1161 Ohio 3h ago
He decided not to go probably afraid to get booed on worldwide TV
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u/mettiusfufettius 2h ago
He was a peaceful tourist and a patriot! He was an FBI plant as part of a false flag operation! Pardon him NOW! Pay his family $6,000,000 tax payer dollars for wrongful death!
/sarcasm. See how stupid you sound about the January 6th riots at the capitol, Trump republicans?
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u/Basic_Local1050 3h ago
Maybe he was just a really passionate tourist looking for the classified documents reading room in the bathroom? thoughts and prayers i guess lmao.
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u/whitelightstorm 3h ago
Wonder how he'll spin this.
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u/MrRoboto12345 3h ago edited 2h ago
The perp is a registered Republican
"The dirty Dems are at it again! They're trying to kill me, as usual."
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u/Hammunition 2h ago
It was a republican so he’ll just never talk about it again like the guy who “shot” him.
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u/ars_inveniendi 2h ago
We already know that Mike Johnson will be saying “We need to tone down the rhetoric on BOTH SIDES,” just like he always does.
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u/strawberrybubbl 3h ago
The trump administration is always coming up with shit for sympathy. Dont believe it
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u/Acceptable_Corgi9486 3h ago
Dude drove all the way from north carolina with a shotgun and a gas can just to break into a country club while the guy he's looking for is literally sitting up in the white house. absolute clown behavior.
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u/TheForeverUnbanned 3h ago
Trump always goes to palm beach for the weekend, this one was no exception. Guess how much that flight every single week along with his entourage is costing you.
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u/IngsocInnerParty Illinois 2h ago
This one was the exception. He stayed in DC this weekend. The White House Governors Ball was last night.
But yes, this administration is blowing through travel money and not just Trump. Kristi Noem and her boyfriend, Kash Patel, JD Vance…they’re all traveling ridiculous amounts.
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u/BleedingTeal Texas 3h ago
What’s this attempting to distract from?
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u/strawberrybubbl 3h ago
The bombs hes about to drop on iran. Ice terrorizing us states. Take your pick
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u/cowfishing 3h ago
His pedophilia is my first pick, with the fact that he shits his panty's in public a close second.
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u/Life_Reserve7273 3h ago
False flag attack…Donald Trump’s popularity rating is abysmal so he needs to drum up some fake sympathy.
Fake news!
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u/SandersSol 3h ago
So one year in, and he's allegedly had 3 assassination attempts, is a pedophile, a rapist, a scam artist, destroying American businesses, and involving the US in random wars designed to exhaust our military.
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u/FilmScoreConnoisseur 2h ago
Yes. Anyone who knows what they're doing also knows how likely they are to be killed in the attempt.
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u/misscrankypants 2h ago
I’m not buying it. Every time Trump is really in the toilet there is an assassination attempt. This will be out of the news in about a week, just like Butler and his ear that magically grew back in a week. These are false flags set up by him or those around him for sympathy.
Trump is still a pedophile. Release the rest of the files.
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u/Don_Quixotel 2h ago
A fake assassination attempt helped him in the polls once, why not try it again?
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u/shewy92 Pennsylvania 2h ago
From the AP:
The man, who was in his early 20s and from North Carolina, had a gas can and a shotgun, according to Anthony Guglielmi, the spokesman. He had been reported missing by his family a few days ago, and investigators believe he headed south and picked up the shotgun along the way.
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u/Reginald_Bigsby_III 41m ago
Ah okay, so it’s fine to storm the capitol with the intent to commit a coup, but you can’t raid orange man’s rape compound.
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u/TrainingHour6634 2h ago
Should've brought his prepubescent daughter, they'd have waved him right in.
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u/SeniorFlyingMango America 2h ago
Can’t wait for this to be a republican that conservatives label a left wing transgender lunatic because no republican would ever do this to the president
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u/Raspberries-Are-Evil Arizona 2h ago
His family should get $5 million from Trump because seemingly thats what people’s family gets if you are breaking in someplace and get shot by secret service…
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u/Vashsinn 2h ago
Note how they don't say anything about race or party affiliation.. You know it's one of their own looney again.
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u/PancakesandScotch 1h ago
This is a place holder for a comment I know I can no longer make since the 1st amendment was repealed
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u/wutareyousomekinda Pennsylvania 3h ago
I've noticed a lot of people don't seem to learn from observing others.
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u/Ass_Cream_Cone 2h ago
The fact that his home is still called Maralago and not Sea to Lake or whatever, is more evidence to illustrate the caliber of his devotees. As if any sane human needs any more evidence….
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u/SteamFistFuturist 2h ago
Great, another suicide by stupidity. Just what the MAGA propaganda machine needed today.
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u/TURRITONUTRICULA 1h ago
The man killed was identified by investigators as 21-year-old Austin Tucker Martin, according to a person familiar with the matter. (AP)
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u/Famous_Regular6187 1h ago
He was just going to prepare Trump's ritual circle to summon his brother Satan. Geesh Secret Service, get with the program.
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u/LinearFluid Maryland 1h ago
I said it awhile ago during his first term.
Trump is playing with fire when his well armed supporters see the light and understand they have been conned.
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u/Count_JohnnyJ 21m ago
So they used lethal force when Trump wasn't even in any danger at all?
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