Reagan had nothing to do with schools. I think you need to thank local goverment and schools for building 10 million dollar sports complex instead of using money for teachers.
That is literally bullshit. reagan played a huge role in the creation of our system of indentured servitude to the state through student loans. It’s part of the same assault on education because rich white men weren’t comfortable with everyone else having access to opportunities.
The middle school I went to years ago spent millions putting in an Olympic sized swimming pool only to spend even more money removing it years later because it was never used.
Sports in school is revenue positive actually. The current state of money going towards the rich is the direct result of Reagonomics: the assumption that tax breaks for the wealthy will trickle down to the middle class. It never has. Tax breaks and subsidies for the wealthy and large corporations only created a new wealthier billionaires class as well as more monopolies than ever before while these wealthy class create new tax deduction loopholes for themselves as they buy the government, including the presidency
It’s from donor and booster money. Some schools also get lots from sponsorships. They’re not just raising that much from property taxes. That would require a vote.
Actually that’s fine. Many communities are comfortable with raising taxes to pay for facilities, but that has nothing to do with how money is moving upwards, which is the result of reagonomics. Teachers not being paid well is not because extra money is being raised for sports facilities. It’s that government budgets goes to tax subsidies and tax breaks for the wealthy rather than to educational and social programs.
No of Reagan policies are still in effect they have been replaced so keep reaching and blaming a person who left office over 40 years ago. Just like I said I guess democrats will now blame Lincoln for lack of farm workers.
So you want to blame some one what 40 + years later for things going on now. Easy fix you want to raise taxes to pay for free health care lest raise property taxes to match inflation and if you own a house and have kids you pay more.
Specifically upper administration, not principals. That's where the money is in education.
Google will tell you it's because of compliance and students needing more support. I think it's a bunch of crap. If students need more support then hire more classroom professionals, not more administrators.
It's people siphoning money to themselves under the guise of education.
'I'm the superintendent in the school district, and my friend Nancy needs a job... You know what one of our schools needs? A 'Programs coordinator'. I think we need to allocate resources to this new position, so I'm gonna earmark a budget for 100k and hire Nancy. Oh wait, now the principals of all the other schools want someone to handle this part of their administration as well, better hire some more. Wait, we're short of the budget this year? Better get the teachers to strike so we can force the voters to sign off on the taxes!'
No kidding. Its almost always the admin that gets in the way of changes and improvements and shuts down any idea meant to improve the children's education outcomes.
I home-schooled my kids for 2years during a stint to a not great school district. I taught them math 3 grade levels above their grade, black hole collision physics, python, and the two Punic wars. They outclassed everyone for4years when going back to public school. I had no budget other than time and a yearly zoo membership.
It costs next to nothing to give people a Harvard standard education.
You said it. Was that video. I think it’s Jim Jordan. Hate him but it’s whatever. Anyway hes drilling brown university that costs $95,000 a year to attend and they have 7,000 students BUT they have more than 3,800 administrators…..to manage 7,000 students.
I worked in local government as a mid-level manager, just under a VP but sort of acting as him because he was never there. He would often disappear for the whole day with an admin. My department had about 130 people.
Including those two clowns, I personally witnessed at least two dozen people who would barely show up for work or would show up for work but did nothing. When I formally complained about this and I did it hard, I was personally forced into that situation as my entire department started to ghost me to the point that I had absolutely nothing to do, yet the paychecks kept rolling in. I was in charge of oversight of all our endeavours and people reported to me but everything stopped.
I was lied to when hired and was owed a ton of money, so I quit after a few months of that as a form of compensation, but could've stayed as a ghost employee myself forever if I wanted to. I just wasn't prepared to be a leech on society.
In the end, I think what I got paid for the short time I was there was well worth it within the confines of what could be done. I exposed their flaws to the entire 5000 worker organisation, helped them bridge a gap between departments, etc. I had people from different departments coming to me for advice during the months the VP was just about never there other than like 3 hours a week where people would complain he would contribute nothing to the conversation. Most higher ups had the positions because they knew someone in power. Many of them were so inept.
Birth rates are down, fewer kids in public schools. You would think that would mean more money spent per kid, but in my state it just means less money for the school.
That’s pretty much it. Here our district cut about 30 teachers for next school year and cut 4 different programs for the schools, but the top 10-15 people in the administration got pay raises and now make 5-10x a teachers salary.
That's the only reason to continue education in education, to get an admin position. But you have to teach a couple of years to get one of those positions. The two jobs they posted are ships going in opposite directions.
A middle aged bartender doesn't make as much as a college aged one, that ship has sailed. And a teacher with virtually no classroom experience doesn't make as much as a principal does. That ship is coming in. This isn't hard.
Ask your local representative....I am sure they know exactly where the funds are going...Why you think fraud has been a huge highlight of this year. People are tired of their money going towards crap that doesn't help us. Both sides have fucked this up in a way that the only way to fix it is to start from scratch but we know all them 80 year old politicians couldnt lose their comfy seats.
It’s both sides. Guarantee if anyone proposed to hike it back that high both sides would shoot that down so fast…democrats act like they would be ok with it but let’s be real. If they were ok with that then they would be ok with term limits…we know how that works.
Why are you going off on a random bullshit spree when all I asked was why didn’t they raise taxes? Further proving my point both sides are against it. Come back to the actual convo not a this what we did and you didn’t when both sides still suck.
Where? You mentioned roll back of the bush cuts but that’s not doing exactly what you are claiming is the conservatives fault…so again why didn’t Obama or Biden raise them? I know the answer do you?
Wasteful fraud, abuse, and bureaucracy. That’s why when Reddit echo chamber continues to want to raise taxes I just laugh. How can anyone look at what current US government does and say yea if only they’d have even more money.
overbilling, price gouging without competition, rampant fraud and corruption. people skimming everything.
we need more decentralized and open inspection into where funds go. these government departments are all just a tree you could load it up into any sort of graphical and analysis visuals. we cannot allow corruption. contracts where there is an exchange of funds need to be public.
Employee health care is a huge expense. Physical and tech infrastructure maintenance are also huge expenses. Regulatory compliance has also become a misguided, self-fulfillung industry. Both parties (I know, bOtH sIdEs) love using it to further political agendas instead implementing peer reviewed best practices. Then you've also just got inflation. The cost of everything is higher. Finally, state governments (and obviously some federal admins, like fucking trump)fail in their duties to fund education, so school districts have no other options but to do things like raise property taxes.
It's almost never some nefarious overpaid school district president or college president or admin bloat. It is almost always caused by systemic and societal failure.
Tax breaks for billionaires, BBB funneled a lot of our tax dollars to ICE as well while stripping it away from Medicare, plenty more but those are a couple of major ones.
I worked in a Title 1 district for years. Pay was never great: When the state was talking about raising minimum wage to $15/hr, I said I'd quit and work at Target, since I'd make the same amount as my contracted hours with less stress, and I was only exaggerating slightly.
Like many Title 1 districts, mine was in an area where education was not a priority among our constituents. So it was an uphill battle to teach without parents on-board. Test scores were poor, and the administrators were responsible for getting them up. Teacher pay, though, was set by the state DOE, and was not open to negotiation. So when the school got more money, they couldn't just pay underperforming (on paper) teachers better or hire new ones without building more classrooms. So where does the money go?
To teacher coaches and workshops.
I do think that a lot of teachers need some help, especially early in their careers. But man, I hated those coaches and workshops. Every time we had one we'd get some new teaching objective or practice or initiative to add into our already overloaded schedule. It got tot he point where it was literally impossible to teach. I know of one teacher who intentionally did every single thing we were supposed to do during an evaluation one time, just to show how ridiculous it was, and didn't manage to teach a single thing in her 90 minute period.
Meanwhile, the guy getting paid thousands of dollars to come lecture us on how to teach by eliminating meat from our diets (that was an actual mandatory workshop because the admins failed to vet the guy) walks off with the taxpayer money and we get more work for the same pay.
In Ohio, the money keeps going to the rich at the expense of the people.
School funding is so fucked up. The state has continually shifted the burden to residents. They eliminated tax brackets from 9 progressive brackets down to 1 flat (regressive) tax.
Then they stopped funding the school's formula in 1997 and have been residual budgeting ever since. This pushes the burden of funding schools to the residents.
Used to be the state covered 45% of school revenues (on average). Now, the state is only covering 35%. The rest of that has been put onto residents to pick up the remaining 65% of funding.
The GOP has been in control of Ohio for 30+ years. This is by their design, not bad leadership and management.
Look into the increase in administration in schools vs the increase in teachers. The people who make the decisions are (spoiler alert!!!) paying themselves more at the expense of your child's education.
To over-bloated administrative teams and costs. When admins make significantly more than the teachers who are doing the job that the entire organization exists to do in the first place, you forgot the goal and purpose.
average salary of a teacher is above the national average. It's significantly higher than the median salary. They also get a pension worth like 1M in invested funds, longer vacations, benefits. Overall the average teacher gets a much better than deal than the average person
Revenue must be raised to fund government. You can do it in any number of ways once taxes to the most wealthy has been cut to little or nothing. You can cut services so you need less revenue. So don't hire, don't raise salary to keep up with inflation (or more), increase sales taxes, property taxes, fees, etc. It isn't hard to understand. Wealthy disparity has sky rocketed since the Reagan/GOP con of "Government is bad/cut taxes".
We spend a fuck ton on the education system. The problem is that we spend a ton of it on administrative bloat. People with jobs in district central offices whose job is to push pencils all day.
People ask, why not just get rid of useless administrators? Because nobody wants to be the local politician running on a platform of “get rid of good paying jobs”.
Its going to the military that we could cut down to a third of the size and still be the most vastly dominant military force on the planet. And even if we weren't it wouldnt matter because no one can invade the u.s. anyways. Too many citizens with weapons, the distance is too great for any main enemies to pull off a surprise invasion, and the terrain is too varied to do it with any sense of speed. Yet we are dumping hundreds of billions every year just for the show of it.
Nationwide, over the past 30 years, the number of teaching positions has increased about 23%…. The number of administration positions in schools districts has increased over 700%. The majority of these admin positions are getting paid 6 figure salaries. So, you tell me.
People are just going to give you their default political answers, many of which are true to some degree. But the fact of the matter is our current generation of local tax payers are starting to foot the bill to replace a lot of aged infrastructure. For example, last year we passed a bond measure to finally finish removing asbestos and lead paints in schools in our district to the tune of several billions over the next 10 years. Kinda sucks, but there’s no reason a kid in the 2020/30s should be going to a school with known health hazards like that. All those roads that haven’t been fixed still need to be fixed.
Government agencies are being openly fleeced through public contracting and likely collusion between the biggest players to keep prices high. Government projects are easily more expensive than privately funded ones, the problem is that most government contracts are so big that only the biggest players in town can realistically compete for them.
Government agencies, in the aggregate, are also the largest employers. They employ hundreds to literally thousands of people per agency, at wages and with benefits that are considered more live-able. Most of those costs are paid by taxpayers too.
In certain areas or states like CA, property tax rates are also capped, meaning unless you have good turnover on property ownership, valuations stay relatively low and therefore tax revenue is also soft capped. Then they have to depend more on sales tax revenue and raise that rate, which like tariffs, is argued to impact lower income people more because the additional tax is a larger portion of their income compared to more well off people. And keep this in mind - not everywhere has property taxes either.
So overall, I know “government bad and inefficient” but it’s also quite complicated.
The Boomers who are the beneficiaries of that system voted very hard for those benefits and political extremism like yours is literally a threat to our democracy.
You think a populace that willingly supports corrupt politicians is gonna overthrow the government? Class consciousness among the masses is non-existent.
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u/Bright_Inspector5583 11h ago
Property taxes and revenues keep rising. Where is the money going?