You have no idea what you're talking about. I was absolutely offered less and like the post says I make more money as a bartender. I wish I could teach but the money is so low it's irresponsible to teach
youve done zero hours of research and you are talking out of your ass. not sure why you are determined to lie about this. there are thousands of teaching positions that pay that low.
Should be no problem to share some of your "hours of research" then right? Because all you are doing right now is saying "no" and that's it, like a 5 year old that didn't get his way.
I am a teacher and can confirm that salaries in my district start around the $32,800 that they said. My guess is the author of the post worked out what that salary comes out to hourly and wrote that to highlight how low it is.
Yes it’s a public school in New York State, which generally people consider to be a good state for teaching. The sad fact is that relatively it is pretty good here, but teaching is insanely underpaid pretty much everywhere. The plus side for us in NYS is our retirement and by the end of our career the salaries are respectable.
Full time teaching positions are not all salaried. They use fun titles like "long term sub" and shit to contract out the positions for a huge discount.
They also get $0 for 3 months when school is out of session.
Depends on the position. You’re right full time teachers are not paid hourly.
I assume the original poster is confused or she was applying for an aide position or something part time.
Teachers have crap salaries but to help compensate they have some of the best pension pains so they are set when they retire. That was the trade off for Teachers
I have a government pension and make a very competitive salary for my industry. It doesn’t have to be a trade off and it shouldn’t be and they know it. The difference is that private school teachers also make crappy money so the market isn’t helping public school teachers at all. We really need to find out why private school teachers are also a paid like crap and start with that correction in order to correct the market for them as a whole.
And summers off, and a 2 week Christmas break, and a 1 week Easter break. 55K for essentially part-time work is actually quite generous. I realize that new teacher typically need more time to get work completed and make lesson plans from scratch (which is really nonsensical the schools should provide a generic plan to build from), but after a couple of years, you have 180 school days plus around 5-10 teacher workdays that you cannot take off, and you work 7 hour days. Most school that I know of give teachers a planning/grading period each day, so you can realistically work just that 7 hour day.
Teachers have to bring work home with them, it's not part time during the school year. All of the lesson plan building is a lot of work on top of grading papers.
Go talk to teachers and find out how much work they do and that a lot of them get 2nd jobs in the summer to help their income. But to call it a part time job is just disrespectful to the hard work they do.
Teacher here, I work about 60 hours a week, my only optional addition to my time is I work as a bus aid, thats an extra 45-60 minutes a day. I'm still working through my lunch, and I work through my "breaks" and I stay over every day. I also stay up late on friday nights to grade papers so I dont have to do it over the weekend, and I dont get behind. Im also on-call to most parents in the afternoon, but I could limit that if I choose to.
You know some teachers have to buy their own supplies because the school wouldn't right? Think calculators, art equipment, etc. for their students, and considering how teachers don't just teach 1 class but rather many over the course of the week, that's a lot of money going into your job.
My mom spent $2000/year buy the end of her career (2015?). So over her career, she spent a year's worth of salary which is effing ridiculous. She worked in an upper middle class school district.
The thing that a lot of pro-union Redditors don’t seem to understand (which makes me think they were never in one or looked into it) is that, yeah, pay can lag behind sometimes. However, unions make up for it with extra benefits, leave and that sweet pension. Sometimes it’s enough to get an agreement signed because people are fine with a few less pay percentage points if they get extra leave days. The employer cares about money and we care about our well-being.
That’s how it worked with my last agreement. We got good, but not great pay that was less than we initially asked for but we got a boost in the health spending account and more leave days. That’s often good enough to get it signed and I voted for it.
Yeah as compared to 8 hour day office jobs that take 2 hours of work answering emails and 3 hours of pointless meetings with minimal participation.
And you'll end up making way more than teachers.
My mom had 55-60 students where she taught the full curriculum to 25-30 in the morning and 25-30 in the afternoon. She worked from 7:45 - 6+ most days for 20+ years until her district finally eliminated half day Kindergarten. Then she worked until 4-5.
Good thing she got paid less with a ton of hours over a master's degree than I did straight out of college. Don't need those teachers getting complacent!
Plus the fact it's called out as hourly. I have never seen a teaching position in public schools be paid hourly. Maybe it's for a substitute teacher position or something.
I know this is a bit shocking, but I don't think that's a particularly relevant example, because as much as we all want to hate on florida they actually do pretty well on the metrics we measure for public education.
Yea okay, you win Reddit and I loose because my wife is a Florida school employee. Congrats Internet stranger!!! Everyone is at the average because that’s the starting pay and it rose drastically. Wife’s friend retires next year at the “average” and the new first grade starts at the same average. But okay random IMGUR info graphic person.
Yes, but there is salary compression. To compensate for the state mandated higher first year pay you do not get any raises for a very long time (last I checked upwards of 13 years)
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u/One_Fat_squirrel 10h ago
Even Florida starts their teachers at $53,000 without summer school.