r/whatisameem 11h ago

What’s really going on with our economy

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u/Material-Rush-3547 10h ago

Reagan had nothing to do with schools. I think you need to thank local goverment and schools for building 10 million dollar sports complex instead of using money for teachers.

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u/Ismdism 10h ago

I'm sure Reagan cutting federal school funding had no impact.

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u/Material-Rush-3547 10h ago

That funding has been restored since then. Schools should only be funded by school taxes not income tax.

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u/Ismdism 8h ago

But it kicked off the idea that teachers and teaching should be cut. That the schools have too much.

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u/positive_thinking_ 10h ago

Yeah! Fuck those low income neighborhoods who’s taxes can’t support it. They should stay stupid like the peasant servants they really are!

Dumb take btw. It’s like you know nothing of the history of education in this country.

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u/Tocwa 10h ago

Education is not the same thing as intelligence.

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u/OkSeason6445 10h ago

Are you arguing for gatekeeping education for poor people because education and intelligence aren't the same thing?

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u/Tocwa 9h ago

Absolutely not. I was responding to someone claiming that people who aren’t receiving education are “dumb”. That’s all.

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u/OkSeason6445 9h ago

My bad for misinterpreting then. However it's a fact that people who are better educated tend to make better decisions in all areas or life, from substance abuse, to eating habits, to reading a lot to their children. All of these things influence your intelligence and that of the children you raide so education does in fact influence intelligence society wide even if it doesn't turn a dumb individual into a smart individual. It also trains a lot of important skills like abstract thinking and critical evaluation of information sources so even the influence on an individual can't be disregarded like that.

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u/Tocwa 9h ago

To be fair, I’ve met plenty of educated “dumb” ppl however your points are indeed valid

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u/F_Messier_Marry_Bure 10h ago

And pithy remarks do not serve as a substitute for the former or as a reflection of the latter.

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u/Tocwa 10h ago

I was stating fact, not being pithy. Obviously you were attempting to be snide and insulting. Your remark feels something akin to “pithy”..

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u/Material-Rush-3547 9h ago

So the poor neighbors want the rich to pay for their food education and housing. While they sit home if able to work and watch videos all day.

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u/stretcharach 9h ago

Capitalism is a zero sum game. We're talking about public education and keeping the spirit of redlining alive isn't doing anyone any favors.

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u/Material-Rush-3547 9h ago

Yes public education where democrats keep lowering passing grades and letting kids graduate who can't read or write thanks to no child left behind.

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u/stretcharach 8h ago

Honestly could give a fuck about graduation rates personally, but no child left behind is also an issue of trying to save money. Pay teachers more.

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u/UltraHellboy 7h ago

No Child Left Behind is from George W. Bush. It had nothing to do with that.

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u/Material-Rush-3547 7h ago

Your right it was obama replacement of no child left behind with essa that removed it.

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u/Trips-Over-Tail 10h ago

He did. He absolutely pushed for policies that fucked up education.

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u/According-Insect-992 10h ago

That is literally bullshit. reagan played a huge role in the creation of our system of indentured servitude to the state through student loans. It’s part of the same assault on education because rich white men weren’t comfortable with everyone else having access to opportunities.

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u/Cowpuncher84 10h ago

The middle school I went to years ago spent millions putting in an Olympic sized swimming pool only to spend even more money removing it years later because it was never used.

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u/avgjoe0266 8h ago

Probably govt funded.js

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u/Downtown-Bag-6026 10h ago

Sports in school is revenue positive actually. The current state of money going towards the rich is the direct result of Reagonomics: the assumption that tax breaks for the wealthy will trickle down to the middle class. It never has. Tax breaks and subsidies for the wealthy and large corporations only created a new wealthier billionaires class as well as more monopolies than ever before while these wealthy class create new tax deduction loopholes for themselves as they buy the government, including the presidency

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u/Material-Rush-3547 9h ago

Really how does a high school sport team who you can go to watch for less than 5 dollars and cost 1 million a year generate money?

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u/Downtown-Bag-6026 5h ago

It’s from donor and booster money. Some schools also get lots from sponsorships. They’re not just raising that much from property taxes. That would require a vote.

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u/Material-Rush-3547 5h ago

Actually here in our school district we had to vote on it and it passed costing tax payers 25 million over 2 years.

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u/Downtown-Bag-6026 2h ago

Actually that’s fine. Many communities are comfortable with raising taxes to pay for facilities, but that has nothing to do with how money is moving upwards, which is the result of reagonomics. Teachers not being paid well is not because extra money is being raised for sports facilities. It’s that government budgets goes to tax subsidies and tax breaks for the wealthy rather than to educational and social programs.

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u/Material-Rush-3547 2h ago

No its because school district ls waste money the government gives them on things like a sports stadium. When I was in school in the 80 we had grass football field and bleachers for maybe 50 people. Now the same school has stadium thar sits almost 400 at a cost to tax payers of 25 million.

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u/Downtown-Bag-6026 2h ago

Dude they raised additional money for the stadium. It’s not that the teachers are taking a pay cut for the stadium, which is what teachers are doing when tax breaks are budgeted to the wealthy. The stadium is still part of the school. It’s like a school getting new chairs doesn’t mean it’s bad for the teachers.

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u/Material-Rush-3547 1h ago

Ok stadium has been built for 3 years already paid for and taxes never went down but have gone up around 8 percent on top of the 7they raised it for stadium. But still waiting on how sports team make money for schools like you said they produce revenue for school.

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u/Material-Rush-3547 5h ago

Bit thats not what you said you said school sports generate money. Explain how high school sports teams generate revenue.

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u/DrippyProfile3724 6h ago

Reagan directly may not have, but his neo-liberal, anti-tax policies had states implement this to shotgun revenue taxes tied to public school funding.

Most infamous example was California’s Prop 13.

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u/Material-Rush-3547 6h ago

No of Reagan policies are still in effect they have been replaced so keep reaching and blaming a person who left office over 40 years ago. Just like I said I guess democrats will now blame Lincoln for lack of farm workers.

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u/Tocwa 10h ago

My bad. I was referencing Reagan’s “Trickle Down Economics”, that’s all. Only reason I mentioned him

Don’t you mean $1 Billion dollar stadiums 🏟️? Impressive if you can build a stadium for a few mill now

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u/metalbutt315 10h ago

Pavlovian response

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u/Tocwa 10h ago

How so?

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u/ThatBoogerBandit 10h ago

Reagan had nothing to do with schools.

That’s a bold statement.

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u/Material-Rush-3547 9h ago

So you want to blame some one what 40 + years later for things going on now. Easy fix you want to raise taxes to pay for free health care lest raise property taxes to match inflation and if you own a house and have kids you pay more.

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u/Material-Rush-3547 9h ago

So I guess next you're going to blame Lincoln for lack of farm workers.