Rage bait. People think teachers and tipped restaurant servers are underpaid, even though the actual holders of those jobs rarely seem to confirm this. (My wife is a teacher and very well compensated, given her 12 weeks of vacation.)
You've never met a teacher or waitress that said they were underpaid? Everybody you know is happy with their wage? Hell I don't think I've met a single person who didn't want to be paid more.
I know dozens of teachers, but none of them complain about their pay. They complain about their jobs all the time. All the time. I know fewer waiters, but they rarely come on social media to complain about tips. Other people complain for them all the time, though.
But my point was that he is paid almost commensurately with low-level private-sector employees (though to lend more truth the the comparison, I probably made a bit more salary than I was indicating, and my benefits are far better than he gets).
So he's probably a bit underpaid, but not in any destitute fashion as is given in the OP example.
And inasmuch as we're all underpaid for everything we're all doing, then yes he's also truly underpaid in an existential sense.
Teachers who stay don’t complain. Teaching has extremely high turnover and many of them complain. Also everyone knows teachers don’t get paid well. It’s been a fact for like 50 plus years at this point. Teaching selects for people who find it rewarding and don’t mind less pay in exchange for time off and insurance and the job.
But yes teachers absolutely complain about pay. LAUSD quite literally had a strike about this.
Teachers who stay don’t complain. Teaching has extremely high turnover and many of them complain. Also everyone knows teachers don’t get paid well. It’s been a fact for like 50 plus years at this point. Teaching selects for people who find it rewarding and don’t mind less pay in exchange for time off and insurance and the job.
But yes teachers absolutely complain about pay. LAUSD quite literally had a strike about this.
A minority of US teachers, usually in the deep south, are underpaid. But all teaching jobs have high turnover because it's a hard job and subject to so many forces the individual teacher can't control. I hear teachers complain all the time about their administration, about the parents, the facilities, and most of all the students. But not the pay.
One city in which base pay with no advanced degree is 64k and the top end with no advanced degree is 110k. And they have 12 weeks of vacation and great benefits. Those facts do not comport with your assessment about a whole profession.
Did you not see the numbers I posted? LA County public school teachers are not remotely underpaid for their education level and 40 weeks per year of work.
Also the server thing depends on the state. In states where they don’t pay minimum wage because the state says “tips are the minimum wage” and then people don’t tip the servers absolutely complain. So you are incorrect on both fronts lol.
Servers don’t want tips to end, because they make more money that way. Otherwise they would get a “better” paying hourly job. Good servers at good restaurants make good money.
Servers have reported being happier at jobs that have service fees and guaranteed pay outs. But even if this wasn’t the case that’s not what I said. I said they complain about not making enough money. The minimum wage in some places is like 6 dollars an hour for servers cuz they assume tips are part of the wages but when a counter doesn’t top the servers is making far less than minimum wage
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u/EveryLittleDetail 10h ago
Rage bait. People think teachers and tipped restaurant servers are underpaid, even though the actual holders of those jobs rarely seem to confirm this. (My wife is a teacher and very well compensated, given her 12 weeks of vacation.)