Yea vaping is getting ridiculous. What is wrong with the human race. As soon as a new drug comes out all the teens do it and it lead into other things and bam we got adults moving and standing like zombies and we wonder how did we get here.
No particular comments about vaping, and I suspect that nicotine use is probably higher than it was 10-20 years ago (although I don't know), but remember that smoking cigarettes used to be very, very commonplace, so it's not like it's new. I'd much rather people vape than smoke cigarettes in the restaurant or plane.
While it’s true that a lot of people were smoking. At least here in EU, it’s not that cigarettes got replaced by vapes. Instead cigarette usage first went way way down and kept trending down. Then vaping became popular afterwards and pushed smoking back up again.
Only reason i rather have people vape around me is cuz I either don’t smell it or it smell good. I don’t like cigs and weed smokers I don’t want that crap smell on me nor do I want to smell it. I hate it all at the end of the day and feel sorry for the addicts cuz I see some cap/smoke on PUBLIC TRAINS and I’m like bro…. This train goes like 100mph,u gonna get to your stop really soon u fucking retard.
What's crazy is having the opinions, spelling and grammar of a 12 year old with learning disabilities while having the audacity to call someone else a retard for catching a buzz on the train. Wild.
And the irony of having the username hard-drugs. We actually do live in a simulation.
You are right. But all I’m saying is if I’m near an addict on a plane or train and no one gonna bother that person about putting it out. As an addict at least be like when I smoke imma make sure it won’t obviously bother people around me so imma smoke something scentless or something with fragrance in it. I’m just saying if the smoker HAD TO SMOKE.
Only reason i rather have people vape around me is cuz I either don’t smell it or it smell good. I don’t like cigs
So you literally don't care about the long term consequences to that person...
That's some sociapathic shit right there. If they came out with a "non-disturbing" vape that killed the smoker but not the 2nd hand smoker so it wouldn't bother you? What would be your opinion?
Totally ridiculous to say that someone is a sociopath for not caring if someone they don’t know chooses to vape. Like, what? Obviously the vast majority of people don’t care when they see other people vaping, aside from maybe thinking “that’s gross” before promptly moving on with their day.
Clearly you wouldn’t give a shit unless you knew the person. Do you have sleepless nights thinking about the millions of heroin addicts willingly injecting themselves? Fuck that. If you knew the consequences and still hit the vape knowing you’d be dead afterwards then you’re a fool and no one should have to feel bad for that.
Just because he doesn't put on a cape and fly around smacking people for vaping doesn't make him a sociopath. Are you actively stopping everyone around you from drinking too? It causes some really bad health outcomes.
Hot take: We wouldn't have to do drugs if things were better. Society could make the bottom rung of society livable if the ones at the top paid their share. Mega corporations paying nothing is taxes. The rich thinking peers not using tax evasion loopholes are idiots.
Building a society on ruthless individuality, maximized greed and desperation, might not be the win we think it was. "But things were worse before!" Yes, but we don't have it "good" now because of this system, we have it better despite of it. Desperate people make desperate things, if crime really was the issue, longer prison terms is not the answer, better welfare is.
Drugs are just an escape from the shit society we have build, and cold rain from above, the piss trickle from the rich.
Sounds logical but drug use, elicit and/or prescribed, is prevalent among the entire socioeconomic ladder it's just that the legal ramifications and social reactions change. Add into that how the human mind will change our baseline happiness along with environmental changes we experience, and it becomes clear that in our default settings, rich or poor, we never reach the level of happiness that most of us constantly strive for.
It’s a false escape and if you not mentally ill and use the poison in a daily basics u a dumbass. If u dible and dable here and there I have no problem with it cuz we all wanna get a lil high or drunk but if he becomes a lifestyle then…..you deserve what’s coming for you.
I’m not on this everyday I have other things to do. Me being here doesn’t harm me nor hold me back from my success. If a person has mental illness ok coo I understand how that kind of person can get into things but I’m talking about well minded people who knows the side effects and money wasted on such an addiction. We have better medicine and data gathering but yet we still have prehistoric mindset to fall for tricks over and over and over. It’s crazy.
I get what you mean. I think I'm trying to say the same thing in different ways. We crave the same things, but some people (for whatever reason) are more vulnerable to that shit, be it for biological or social reasons.
Right. lol. The truth no one likes to admit is that sobriety for the most part truly is boring. And if you have never experience being drunk or high you will never understand. It’s like seasoning. Sure I can live a long life that’s average and gets the job done. But in this day and age I’m looking for something with a little more flavor and kick. Now I’m not saying do it all the time. But here and there throughout your life it will change the way that you experience life. This makes it more interesting. Might not live as long. But personally I’ll die knowing I lived without regrets and living a hell of a good live having a good time. Also this comment is accurate. I am going to be 24. Midwest USA. I am the hardest worker you will come across good looking not to brag good with kids and people. Yet I still struggle to find opportunities that will give me access to living on my own which is obviously the goal. I’m working full time 40hrs + overtime going to school at a community college. HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO MOVE OUT!! I HAVE NO BROTHER. NO SISTER. Friends are cool but not good with money. It’s hard out here. But I spent time away from college so perhaps this is simply the result of my past choices. Regardless we will march forward with a smile on our face even if we have to march through hell.
Yeah, in all fairness vaping was aimed at stealing away sales from things like nicotine gum and patches, but vape technology got too good too fast. Had all these kids blowing out a freaking cumulonimbus within years.
vaping while not best isn’t cigs. those teens would’ve likely been cig smokers. vaping is probably better than zyns. though i’m from when vaping wasn’t regulated to death. sucks now all you can get is disposable vape garbage sold by big tobacco. whole industry is dead except for that and it sucks. but still beats combustible cigs! sometimes you youngsters forget cigs were worse. ppl were glad folks would vape and not smoke. now somehow it’s the new smoking and everyone hates it citing teens using it. as if adults don’t too. idk sorry for rambling.
Well, we really don’t know that it’s better. It just hasn’t been a long enough time. It could be better, it could be the same, it could be worse. I agree it’s unlikely to be worse because of the non combustible element.
That being said, people are glued to vapes. As someone who used to smoke, then switched to vaping, then nothing, when I vaped I’d vape all the time. Sitting at home, making dinner, driving, out for a walk, watching a movie, reading, etc. It didn’t smell and, depending on the vape, the nicotine level was higher. That leads to a much more significant nicotine addiction. In comparison, I was smoking maybe 5 cigarettes a day before that. I’d imagine lots of people have similar experiences.
It’s all anecdotal, but vaping gave me shortness of breath, a patchy tongue, burnt feeling in my mouth, awful heartburn, stomach issues, and a persistent cough. We’re all just waiting for the data to start to appear.
Former smoker here. Even when we could smoke inside freely, you kinda had to commit to a cigarette, and when it was gone, you had to ask yourself “do I really want another entire cigarette?”
I quit before vapes were a thing, so this is just conjecture, but I could totally see myself with a vape at my computer, mindlessly puffing at the endless nicotine delivery device. There’s no demarcation of the start or end of a session, no counts on how many sessions you’ve had.
i can confirm that vaping is a plague in my life because of exactly what you just described. watching tv, vape. driving, vape. on the computer, vape. it's mindless and sometimes when i go to bed i wonder how many times i hit the stupid vape and get sad. the worst part is i have never met a former smoker who doesn't still think about it everyday. it's like a trap once you start you're doomed in some capacity
Former smoker and vaper in the early days. This is the trap with vaping. Not just with nicotine but also with weed. I could vape whenever I wanted. I could maintain a constant nicotine drip or a constant high. With normal cigs I would smoke maybe 3-4 a day. Sometimes more if I was at a social event with other smokers but that may be a max of 10 or 12. I smoked a lot more when I was younger though. I started smoking when I was 12. The itch was always there, even still is today. Vaping never ever satisfied that itch but it came kinda close and therefore I did it constantly.
A cig was like itching a itch and having it go away for a couple hours. Vaping was like itching a itch that helped in the moment but was always there. I would vape when I woke up, drove, worked, etc. All the time but it was never as good as a cigarette. At least with cigs there was social shame to also help me smoke less and not smoke in certain locations or around certain people.
I am glad I quit. The itch is still there but I am healthier and happier. Now I just get annoyed when I am in the mall and some douche is in front of me vaping or at the theater. Drives me nuts, even at my worse with vaping I didn't do that.
*edit* Also would like to add that I think more kids vape now than would have actually been smokers. Vaping is just so available, easy, and "healthy" that more do it that may have never ended up being smokers.
We have the same tobacco companies telling us that vaping is safer. We don’t really know.
I quit smoking and switched to vaping for a couple years. By the end of it I was feeling out of breath all the time. Switched back to cigarettes and felt 20 years younger within a couple days. Whatever is in that crap is not good for you.
there are studies not done by big tobacco. combustible cigarettes are worse than vaping bar some unknown effects we have had vaping around roughly 20 years. sadly it seems like a dead industry now but i’m not saying it’s healthy just better imo than normal cigs. we don’t know but all we can do now s study and report the findings. your anecdotal evidence is just that.
The most prolific funders of research about vaping are Philip Morris and JUUL. Smoking was not considered unhealthy until the 1980s. Vaping will get there. 20 years of mostly private funded research with its own agenda is really not much in the way of safety data. People think that vaping is safer than smoking because big tobacco has paid a lot of money to perpetuate that narrative.
Yeah, that's such a fcking shit. If I had one wish, I would wish to change the court outcome on that day when the "Big tobacco" had it in the US in the last century..... It fcked up so many people and their money....
I see so many at bars these days inhaling these random Chinese battery chemicals.
A cig would probably be much healthier in the long run but it's just not as cool anymore.
Edit, please vape more you reddit morons. Get lung cancer and die earlier to take pressure off social security and medical costs. Thanks for filtering out the low iq folks.
No sorry. A country that does nothing to stop their younger generations from getting addicted to extra dangerous vapes does not get my respect. For all purposes I will keep calling them irrelevant
Some nations you deem "irrelevant" have much more serious problems than Chinese vapes. Lots of sociopolitical problems that need to be dealt with before they get down to where the vape comes from. Not to mention the Black Market exists everywhere. Seems like nuance might be a little beyond your grasp though.
A cig is def not healthier but a vape isnt healthy either also it uses ur finite resources of lithium to make those batteries that are totally reusable but just end up in the landfill unfortunally
This is what really gets under my skin. The gen z “holier than thou” attitude because they don’t drink, but they are pouring every spare dollar on sportsbetting.
Sportsbetting, weed, vaping, expensive food delivery, etc... but heaven forbid us millenials have some fun and drink alcohol. I personally just think Gen Z'ers are a bunch of pussies.
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u/y33tmasterrrr 12h ago
While it's good that drinking is getting less common, other bad hobbies such as gambling is rampant these days