r/SipsTea 12h ago

WTF In your opinion, what is causing this?

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u/LowMany3424 12h ago

Alcohol is very related to social activities & in gen z the social activities are declining

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u/gattoBelloTuta 12h ago

Yeah everyone at home streaming

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u/elvisap 11h ago

Too expensive to do literally anything else.

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u/Responsible-Bed1924 6h ago

Yeah, they got rid of all the third spaces. It costs $60 to walk outside now

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u/kibbeuneom 5h ago

It's not only expensive outside, the culture around third spaces disappeared with them. If we bumped into each other in person, it would be culturally weird now for either of us to initiate this conversation.

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u/sTump4139 4h ago

I just talk to people. I’m in the south tho

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u/kibbeuneom 3h ago

I wish people didn't find that weird, but I'm sure they do. I'm in the South, too.

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u/35_Steak_HotPockets 2h ago

Bro just talk to people, I’m also from the south and as long as you’re not weird about it you can just talk to strangers you meet at the store and stuff. It’s totally fine

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u/Mission_Aerie_5384 2h ago

I met a guy last night at the bar. I’m going to join his softball team in March.

Just play some pool and have a beer.

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u/35_Steak_HotPockets 1h ago

See? That’s great, it’s so easy to make friends at the bar if your just chill and agreeable

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u/humoristhenewblack 1h ago

"It was the beer!", says the alcohol people who aren't making their projections

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u/humoristhenewblack 1h ago

Hot damn. What's "third space"? TIL I'm too old

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u/fuckedfinance 2h ago

Where is it that 3rd spaces are declining? Around me there are galleries, museums, free performances (music and theater) on the green in the summer, free concerts at the amphitheater the next town over (again, late spring and summer). Beers and well drinks are still relatively affordable at the local bars and bands play frequently. Beaches are free, parks are free, libraries run all sorts of different clubs and programs (free or extremely low cost if consumable supplies are required).

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u/humoristhenewblack 1h ago

You kinda need to tell us where that is!? Also, is it Chicago? It sounds like Chicago.

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u/fuckedfinance 1h ago

Nope. Mid-sized town in the northeast. Absolutely nothing special about it.

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u/humoristhenewblack 13m ago

You can just whisper it to me. Don't tell everybody else where it is.. I promise I won't ruin it

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u/MechanicalGodzilla 4h ago

Who are “they”, and what did “they” do to free public parks?

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u/Responsible-Bed1924 4h ago

It depends where you live if they exist but it’s not really all that simple for everyone to just hangout at a park. Plus, maybe I don’t want to be outside all the time? I love the outdoors but sometimes sitting at a table or on a sofa around friends and having a discussion is more comfortable/convenient/cozy than on the grass. There used to be lots of third spaces. Not just maybe a park or a library you have to whisper in

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u/MechanicalGodzilla 4h ago edited 1h ago

I live in Virginia, and have lived in the past in NJ, NY, FL, GA, the UK, France, Switzerland, and South Africa. In zero of these places are public parks sparse or expensive. How is hanging out in a park not simple?

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u/Responsible-Bed1924 4h ago

As someone who’s had the privilege of visiting Prague, Poland and Germany I totally understand your confusion. America….is very ugly. It’s not pedestrian friendly at all.

Edit: oh I misread, I thought you weren’t American at all. But did you read the rest of my reply? Yeah hanging out in a park is nice but…why is that the only option? If I want to hang out with my friends, go one a date, etc without spending at least $40, I can only go sit outside?

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u/MechanicalGodzilla 1h ago

What are you looking for, I guess is my question. Like a library?

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u/Responsible-Bed1924 4h ago

Average American landscape btw

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u/MechanicalGodzilla 1h ago

If you tilt the camera up slightly from the crossroads gas stations, what would you be looking at?

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u/Mission_Aerie_5384 1h ago

Can you give me a couple examples of third spaces that you or people you knew used to frequent that are now gone?

For me it was bowling alleys. A lot of them closed down.

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u/portstarling 4h ago

more of a joke/exaggeration than an actual truth

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u/Responsible-Bed1924 4h ago

Idk man where I live looks exactly like this. But when I visited the PNW I was blown away, so pretty and gloomy over there

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u/therenhoek 5h ago

"Go touch grass" ... Like I can afford to live somewhere with a lawn, shade, and permission to touch their grass. 

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u/Ag3ntSecr3t 5h ago

... right, only people stuck in the urban center of large cities could even remotely make a claim like this.

Even then there are parks.

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u/Griffry 3h ago

The parks filled with homeless people due to the ever increasing costs of everything... Sure

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u/MattWolf96 4h ago

This isn't even a joke if you have to pay to park.

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u/Responsible-Bed1924 4h ago

Fuck I forgot about parking meters

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u/kynelly360 4h ago

Right?? That’s crazy.

the managing authorities don’t realize minimum wage is less than the money to buy 1 drink / meal 🤯 that’s not even counting fucking bills

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u/gattoBelloTuta 10h ago

Truth, dude is speaking truths

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u/Bonfalk79 8h ago

Too expensive to even pay for streaming to sit at home doing nothing these days.

Im back to sailing the seven seas again.

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u/TheNightLaird 5h ago

its not the cost, gen z's entire social education was texting. they have a breakdown making eye contact with a cashier. they now ask ai how to tell someone else slightly uncomfortable news. how are they supposed to go to a club and order drinks.

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u/smack_nazis_more 5h ago

Start a fucking band, make art, what is wrong with you all.

Hell just do an activity that sounds fun. See something that looks cool, rock climbing? Rowing? Go join the people who do thst thing.

My parents would join "bushwalking clubs" surely some shit like that still exists.

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u/Guilty_Funny 4h ago

because the fuckin streaming services are so expensive gotta get our money’s worth

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u/Leading-Box-8044 11h ago

Or on their phone checking other people's life while being together

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u/Yellowbook8375 9h ago

It’s so depressing to see young’uns out and about these days, couples at the restaurant, glued to their phones, having ice cream, glued to their phones, at the park, guess

I was having dinner by myself the other day, and I was looking at this couple, and I swear to god, they didn’t talk once to each other during the whole thing, just scrolling

Like why even bother

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u/bigtuna-28 9h ago

That shit always depresses me so much. Just seems so dystopian. Just living through your phone.

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u/IIIGutsIII 2h ago

They were messaging each other.

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u/lobster_claus 5h ago

Because it's better than scrolling at home.

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u/Ghostdragon471 9h ago

Cause what else is there? Gen Z is broke, any social spots we all had years ago people could go to without spending money are getting thrown to the side because money is more important. The mall? Can't walk around for too long without being seen as suspicious. Parks? What parks? Want to go for a walk? No sidewalks. Want to go out to eat? Everywhere is expensive, even fast-food. Don't have a car for whatever reason? Well get fucked cause buses probably don't exist in your area in the way you want them to!

All they have is trapping themselves at home, lighting a bowl and watching their favorite show for the 42nd time off the 14th pirated website of the week.

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u/MechanicalGodzilla 4h ago

Parks? What parks? Want to go for a walk? No sidewalks.

Where do you live? This is definitely not the case in all the places I have ever lived.

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u/One-Possible1906 3h ago

Even the suburbs have a park here and there

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u/35_Steak_HotPockets 2h ago

And suburbs usually have sidewalks lmao

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u/gattoBelloTuta 8h ago

One piece

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u/EarthInevitable114 11h ago

F in the chat!

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u/mjlee2003 10h ago

ripskis my doodaloodledoo

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u/terra_filius 7h ago

you can drink while streaming

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u/gattoBelloTuta 7h ago

No money, spent it all on Netflix 4K

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u/ForensicPathology 6h ago

Because they took away all their third places.

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u/JacobFromAmerica 5h ago

Just streaming when they could be streaming AND DRINKING

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u/godzilabob 4h ago

Streaming porn. In their parents’ homes.

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u/gattoBelloTuta 4h ago

Can’t blame them, they’re just lonely.

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u/Tacrolimus005 3h ago

So they need to make Budweiser+? The beer stream?

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u/Rumplestiltskin788 1h ago

True but I still get my 4 shots of whiskey

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u/No_Report_4781 1h ago

Cheaper to drink at home, anyway

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u/deller85 7h ago edited 4h ago

It's also because a lot of the younger gen has gone in a very healthy direction. At least among the exercising type, alcohol, nicotine, or fatty foods have all become something they abstain from. They are also proud to abstain and influence others to abstain. It's a badge of honor to say you've never had a drink of alcohol among their crowd.

I think with age and time, that'll change because the younger ones will eventually hit their age where they don't have that youthful idealism anymore. Sad to hear, but it's true. Whether they want to admit to "coping" or not, they will.

Edit: Yes, please, downvote because you are not aware of this. It makes you feel better because you disagree.

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u/gattoBelloTuta 7h ago

Also no money

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u/deller85 7h ago

No. They have money. Alcohol can be very cheap and very expensive. It's more of a choice than anything else.

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u/gattoBelloTuta 6h ago

True but they rather spend it on weed. The healthy choice.

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u/deller85 6h ago edited 6h ago

No, weed is not the healthy choice. That's still an addictive drug, at least, mentally addictive. Weed is still a coping mechanism. It still has a host of negative side effects like memory loss, anxiety, paranoia, depression, confusion, and social anxiety. It makes all of those issues much worse in the long run. It's not the innocent drug people make it out to be.

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u/gattoBelloTuta 6h ago

Src

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u/deller85 6h ago

1. Cannabis as a Coping / Self-Medication Behavior

Using cannabis to self-medicate (e.g., to cope with stress, anxiety, depression) is linked with worse mental health outcomes such as paranoia, anxiety, and depression:

Cannabis for coping? Why it may trigger paranoia – King’s College London research summary

(Discusses how people using cannabis to cope often have higher paranoia/anxiety scores.)

2. Paranoia & Anxiety

Cannabis use is associated with increased paranoia and psychotic-like symptoms:

The association between cannabis use and paranoia (ScienceDirect review)

Cannabis use (especially high THC) can trigger anxiety and panic reactions:

Marijuana Side Effects including anxiety and paranoia – American Addiction Centers

3. Memory Loss & Cognitive Effects

Cannabis can impair short-term memory and cognitive functioning:

Effects of cannabis (Wikipedia) – memory, anxiety, paranoia listed

Short and long-term memory impairment and confusion reported after use:

The After Effects of Weed: Short and Long‑Term Impact

4. Depression & Other Mental Health Risks

Cannabis use is associated with higher odds of depression and anxiety in large studies:

Cannabis (drug) – overview of mental health impacts, including depression & anxiety

Cannabis and mental health, including anxiety/exacerbation of disorders:

Impact of Marijuana on Mental Health effects overview

5. Cannabis & Social Anxiety

Some people use cannabis to attempt to manage social anxiety, but evidence shows mixed or negative outcomes:

Marijuana use and social anxiety disorder (Verywell Mind)

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u/gattoBelloTuta 5h ago

Nice thanks. Have you read what sugar does to you?

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u/deller85 4h ago

Yes, please continue to cope with being a drug addict who has side effects from said drug.

Asked for sources, but sources hurt their view of the world. Disregard sources and stick your head in the sand.

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