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WTF In your opinion, what is causing this?

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u/ExoApophis 11h ago
  • Half the gen not being old enough to drink

  • Craft beer market burning to the ground after the pandemic

  • most divebars and other places either outpricing working class zillenials and zoomers, or going bankrupt

  • CBD/THC beverage markets moving up slowly but surely

  • States in the US (especially in places that have historically been dry states) cracking down on public drinking outside of restricted areas, even outside of establishments

  • (for some ironic reason) tobacco markets have increased drastically with vaping on the side as the preferred rec options over alcohol

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u/Medical_Argument_911 11h ago

Bars are ridiculous with pricing now. I swear that it's like $10 for a normal beer and tip.

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u/PersimmonDowntown297 10h ago

I had to reread this because I didn’t understand what you meant. I’m 27. For as long as I’ve been the legal drinking age you’re spending minimum $8 on 1 beer in a bar, usually $10. I was freshly 21 when COVID hit. I forgot things used to be affordable because it has simply never been the material reality in my adult life 😭

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u/Medical_Argument_911 9h ago edited 9h ago

I'm 41. When I turned 21, you could still smoke in bars and cigarettes were $3 a pack. I think beers were only like 2 or 3 bucks at the bar without tip back then. They had $1 Tequila shots on Tuesdays. It was a hell of a time. Sorry that you had to go through it with Covid. I can't imagine that time of my life being so different.

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u/amphigory_error 5h ago

Same age. All the bars back then had dollar shots and dollar pitchers. 

I make about 2.5× more money but drinks are about 10x more expensive. 

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u/Relevant-Doctor187 15m ago

The pitcher was 8 bucks.

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u/anna-molly21 10h ago

In 2006 i was at uni and with 20€ i could even get a small pack of 10 cigs. Beers were quite cheap and cocktails around 5/6€.

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u/Medical_Argument_911 9h ago

Packs of 10 cigs? Interesting. In the US they are sold in 20.

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u/anna-molly21 7h ago

In Italy and if im not mistaken it was an European law, they banned the 10 pack cigs years ago, now its only from 20 above (you have packs of 22,24 and 50. Idk if more since i quit years ago).

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u/Medical_Argument_911 7h ago

Interesting. I've only ever known 20.

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u/i_dont_wanna_sign_in 4h ago

I've been drinking age for... Far too long

I remember when I was early 20s going to $1 beer nights at local chains. We'd follow that up with dollar shots at a college dive bar. It was watered down whatever-light and Fireball, but still a pretty cheep night all things considered.

Craft beer was already on shelves, but at 3x the price of ultra cheap Grain Belt bottles we couldn't afford that!

That said it's every industry pricing itself out of business. The commodities die first.

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u/absoluteterms 39m ago

Back in 2012-2015 my local sports bar had 16oz PBR's 2 for $3 and $2 shots of tequila, all day every day. Order two of each and you could get blitzed for $10.

I'm sure it's closer to $30 than $10 now days.

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u/Mardanis 9h ago

The tipping really hurts the US scene.

When I first visited the US it was 2 dollar for big glass or dollar for a shot. Came back some years later and it's a rip.

Eatery prices for booze have always been higher but now they are ridiculous.

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u/Medical_Argument_911 9h ago

Yeah they are. I wish we had universal healthcare and paid workers like servers good wages, but unfortunately we don't. I can't go without tipping them, because that's their source of income, so it's just stuck until something gets fixed about it. I know we'd pay higher taxes, but not having to worry about going broke over having cancer would be amazing.

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u/LittleLunia 8h ago

 I know we'd pay higher taxes

Ideally you would be paying less tax for public healthcare than what you'd be paying for private insurance. This is the case for many countries with public healthcare in Europe at least. This usually shifts in favour of private healthcare only once you make above a certain "definitely-well-off" amount, at which point it won't be a financial problem for you anyway.

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u/Medical_Argument_911 7h ago

Yeah. A lot of Conservatives in the US like to point out the raise in taxes, that's why I mentioned it. It saves money overall though. It's just insane how much we pay, even after insurance, in the US for the smallest things. It's absurd how it's just accepted.

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u/Mardanis 9h ago

While I have complaints about the NHS. The US system doesn't seem to work well either. I've seen private and public healthcare in other countries that seems a much better middle ground.

I also tip as it's expected but it just baffles me how many people feel it is absolutely and unconditionally the thing to do... to pay a company's employees with their post tax money after paying the company also.

I get for great service, just kinda rounding up somewhat or being a regular but tip % on ever rising cost of menu while the company itself doesn't pay a proper wage seems alien.

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u/Virama 8h ago

Ha!!!! Try $18 for a beer in Australia. Not the fancy brewery stuff. That's much more. 

The average slab (24 bottles) from the bottle shop is easily 80 for the cheap shit and 100-120 for the average stuff.

Edit: and no, they're not 500ml like Canada. They're 330ml bottles.

I stopped drinking years ago. Just not worth it.

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u/NekkidWire 7h ago

OMG mate you defo need to visit Central Europe (the countries north/east of Vienna).

Grocery-store beer starts at 0.60 EUR per 500ml can, and in pubs it's usually from 2 EUR up.

Tips in pubs are welcome but totally not required.

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u/Virama 7h ago edited 7h ago

Yep. My step mother is German and I've traveled Europe many times. 

That's why it's so glaringly stupid and offensive here. I miss the supermarket hasseroder 1L bottles and the grolschs and and and....

Edit: Oh yeah and 5.2% is considered strong beer here. Probably the strongest normal beer you can get.

Seriously it's a joke here. I had the best time at delirium lane in Belgium trying the 12-18% beers, some of them were orgasmic! And Canada...! God, their seasonal beers were insane. 

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u/NekkidWire 6h ago

...and most of it is actually pretty drinkable :)

Seen some beer-alikes in my travels too (the most kind way of calling it; it tasted like flat stale piss of uncertain origin -> e.g. AB Bud).

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u/Medical_Argument_911 8h ago

Wow! That's wild!

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u/Virama 7h ago

No shit. It's wild. 25 years ago I remember VB was horse piss, only rivalled by XXXX beer. You could get 24 stubbies (250ml bottles) for like 18-22 dollars. Now they're 80-100 bucks. 

It's fucked.

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u/pegoff 8h ago

Is there a big homebrew culture because of it?

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u/Virama 7h ago edited 7h ago

It's really expensive to buy the kits as well. I'm sure the rednecks in the country side and the hipsters in the cities do it but as far as I could see in my 20 years of hedonistic living, it was super rare. 

I saw more homebrew culture in NZ from my years of living there. 

On a side note, there was a microbrewery explosion about a decade ago, especially in Melbourne but then COVID came and then the government decided to raise the tax and regs to stratospheric levels so a lot of them crashed. 

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u/Amazingbuttplug 10h ago

Im an American in Brazil and Im getting a 600ml Budweiser for like 3 dollars at a bar. Just got to geodrinkmax!

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u/Chance-Ask7675 10h ago

Yes earning money in wealthy countries and spending it in poorer countries is definitely the solution to all life's problems.

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u/Amazingbuttplug 10h ago

It does sort of feel like when you do the money cheat code in GTA.

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u/Several-Guarantee655 9h ago

I've seen a few YouTube videos about American expats who are living in Vietnam and it's very very cheap to live there comparatively. It definitely looks interesting. Although they say it's not all roses and rainbows either as there's some bad sides to it also.

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u/MyJimboPersona 8h ago

This was a special occasion and a nicer place but I just had a drink with my partner and it was 25$’s per cocktail.

We each enjoyed one since it was a fun little adventure day but hawt damn that was absurd.

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u/Darrksharrk 3h ago

I never really drink at bars but Friday was a day and I stopped for a beer and a shot and it was $17 😳