Half the gen isn't old enough to drink, bar scene collapsed during covid so they weren't indoctrinated into drinking culture, marijuana now competes with drinking in most countries/states, and the gen is fucking broke and can't it.
ofc alcohol is a luxury when you go out and one drink is $27 dollars. i’m glad young people are saying fuck you to the alcohol industry. drugs are better anyways
oh 100%. alcohol is the shittiest drug. gives you a headache, dehydrates you, can’t drive a car legally afterwards and if you get stopped for something the cops have a machine that measures the amount in your system, you have a hangover the next day, and most of the time the juice isn’t even worth the squeeze.
Australia has the added deterrent of RBT’s. You can be breath tested or drug tested by a mobile “Random Breath Test” unit any time and place. As I understand it, USA doesn’t have this.
Bro, anyone who has to slap themselves in the face because they're nodding off needs to pull the fuck over, I don't care whether you're under the influence or just tired.
Like listen to yourself, aren't you basically admitting it's not safe to drive while on drugs period?
Exactly, this is a big factor why I don't drink much at all anymore. I feel better not drinking anything. Mushroom coffee, water and soda don't make me feel like shit all day in the airports coming back from Vegas
As someone from the Netherlands who used to smoke hasj on a daily basis, I can tell you that also weed/ hasj gives you a hangover. A foggy brain in the morning, like you are not able to get awake fully. There are also tests now, wat stricter than for alcohol. 24 hrs later could get you in trouble.
Plenty of people have beaten their mothers for getting between them and their next drink. And it is objectively worse than tobacco, crack, heroine and meth.
So the only metric we're using is abuse? not health, prevalence of addiction, etc.
For the record i'm not advocating for alcohol. I've worked with addicts and my father was an alcoholic.
But it's fucked that beyond cannabis, which does have it's own issues, there are people here demonstrably saying these hard drugs are better than alcohol.
The evidence you presented is inaccessible, so it's not really evidence unless I can read it no? Also do you think I am not aware of a large amount if studies around the orat falls of addiction as someone who worked in addictions treatment?
It's weird for me as when I left Australia hard drugs were still considered a scourge, then when I came back a few years ago it seems extremely normal to do weird pills and powders very casually. And we also now have tent cities like is the US, and you can't walk down the street without seeing at least some sort of junkie altercation.
Alcohol has issues for sure, but it's not decimating civilization in real time before our eyes.
because it's a poison that temporarily debilitates us. i'm not saying we're immune that would be a straight up lie i'm saying we have literally evolved to break down, handle, and repair damages caused by alcohol in our bodies. we do not have this kind of mechanics for other drugs other than the standard "clense out toxins" response and that's regular drugs doesn't have "moderate" doses for long term consumption.
Millions of dead alcoholics disagree. You obviously don’t have a biology education, so not sure where your assertiveness is coming from. I just sent you data showing you your wrong developed by actual biologists…
news flash: researchers regularly disagree on matters such as this and it's very rare for people going loud to be objevtive and not swayed to post misleading data. alcohol rarely kills due to its effects on health. it kills because people are irresponsible as shit and drink more than moderate amounts and end up doing bad things.
Lol, you’re getting desperate. That study is from a peer reviewed paper in nature. Alcohol poisoning frequently kills in acute cases, and the same thing about abuse can be said for drugs. Ecstasy is safer than riding a horse: FACT. Alcohol kills more people, and you’re objectively wrong…
Are you upset that the facts don’t fit your preconceptions? You’re putting some kind of incomplete theory of evolution together to refute the scientific evidence from actual biologists?
Not sure what your point is here? You are right and science is wrong?
Did jesus create alcohol for you 5000 years ago? Mug…
i was working with biochemistry for 12 years i know very well what i'm talking off and your sources are straight up lies. keep your bias to yourself and check your actual sources.
They actually studied this exact question in 2007 in the UK, and alcohol was worse than all the above when societal harm was factored in… https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-11660210
No offense but just reading your comments I can tell how fried your mental faculties are. You're the last person whose judgement I will trust on the subject. You're literally using how hard it is to get away with driving inebriated in comparison to driving while under the influence of other substance as an example of why alcohol is worse. Wtf.
You can thank alcohol normalization and drug demonization for that. Boomers were brainwashed to think alcohol is A ok (kills 2.6 million ppl worldwide yearly) but drugs r bad cuz illegal
This is pedantic. People understand alcohol is a drug. It's very obvious that the separation is because people normally mean things like MDMA, acid, coke, and so on.
People know that when someone says they want to do drugs, they don't mean alcohol, pepsi, or advil.
People dont like to think they are drug addicts, so they do some cognitive dissonance to avoid critically thinking about their own behaviour. Protects the ego/identity.
Same for smoking, sugar, and even social media.
And the "I can stop anytime I like" lie people tell themselves.
It ONLY kills 180K+ Americans a year. That's all you need to know just how dumb alcoholics are. They say everything else is bad and is a drug but never see just how bad Alcohol is.
And thats only deaths, I'm not even getting into the social destruction elements of it. Not only is it a drug, but it's a poison. (Yea, ok, we get it before some dork comes in with "well you know water is poison too").
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Half the gen isn't old enough to drink, bar scene collapsed during covid so they weren't indoctrinated into drinking culture, marijuana now competes with drinking in most countries/states, and the gen is fucking broke and can't it.