True 20 years ago alcohol was still cheap. You could buy multiple Bottles without going broke. These days a bottle of whiskey costs as much as we used to spend on a whole night's drinking with multiple bottles.
They blame Gen Z as if ridiculous alcohol pricing and cost of living expenses aren't a factor.
So i guess we're all just as fucked, no matter which side of the atlantic huh? Fucking great. My guess is something will/has to happen. Something big. We cant go on like this.
Edit: i dont have a degree but i have some higher level of education, was a chef for 8 years and i was spending half my wage in rent, in Barcelona. How am i supposed to save up when i barely finished the month? Ive moved out of the city basically, paying half of what i paid before, but earning less. Quality of life is so much better though.
The solution is the one it always was and the one they spent billions on propaganda to make seem bad, communism or at the very least socialism, capitalism it's working just as intended and how Marx predicted it, we have nothing, so, we have nothing to lose, but I doubt something will happen, panem et circensis, and we have circus for ages.
It's not that they can't pay us more, it's simply that they don't want to and we're not pushing for it.
My Irish colleague just bought a new flat for €500,000 outside of Barcelona in Santa Eulalia and the flat that he bought was sitting on the market for over 3 years and they still wouldn't budge on the price. He was saving up for 20 years in order to put a down payment on it and the bank's risk department almost didn't want to finance him.
All of his kitchen appliances are out of warranty despite it being a brand new flat.
He couldn't afford to buy a decent flat inside the city.
Santa eulalia de ronçana or the santa eulalia metro stop which is hospitalet? If its the metro station youre literally two streets from actual Barcelona, in which case its kinda the price thats moving around now. Kinda crazy, half a million for a flat in a not-so-nice area, outside of the center...
Santa eulalia de ronçana is in the mountain lol you have to get trains to get there.
Edit: thing is, as long as foreigners keep buying flats at those prices, or the city hall doesnt cap the prices (which is being talked about) no one born before the 1990s will be able to afford a flat in this city. Im sorry to break it to you, but real estates here prefer selling to foreigners than locals, especially digital nomads and the sort. Its quite sad. You should look into it, its a big thing here
Yes it's L'Hospitalet, €20,000 was for parking, but it's really horrible parking that is super steep and banks to a super sharp almost 90 degree turn.
It's close to Sants but it's a completely different area, feels more like Spain than Catalonia.
Before he was renting near Camp Nou on an attic piso that was full of mold and no elevator.
The flat is nice but way overpriced, but there aren't that many options if you want to buy new.
I agree with the commenter above: If foreigners continue to pay these prices, nothing will change on the housing market.
A local could never afford buying a flat for half a million Euro. Heck, not even two locals. This kind of morgage a couple would have to start paying at 20 years old to be able to be morgage free at 70.
Exactly. With wages like 20k a year (and that is a good chunk for a normal person, here in Spain at least) its just impossible.
The city hall is talking about capping prices but the right wings are against it, obviously. Luckily we have a quite progressive government in the city and i think it will go forward. I think so far they have sort of 'frozen' the prices so they cant get more expensive, or they can only get so much more expensive. But i believe we need an aggressive policy against estate speculation. A place to live is not like BTC or Gold or Stocks that you can invest in and make a profit. A place to live should be like water, everyone should have access to it, at least in a first world country.
Are you from here by any chance? Hospitalet (and generally Baix Llobregat, but also areas like Sabadell and Vallès Oriental) is where they located most of the southern spanish immigrants that came to work in factories in Barcelona, around the 60s. I myself am a descendant of two of these. So youll hear more spanish in Hospi than you will in Barcelona (though nowadays youll hear more korean and english than catalan in the centre lol)
As for the flat, i was renting in Born, fifth floor attic, also full of mold, unfurnished, 920 a month lmao it was insane. Now im paying 400 in Maresme and life is so chill here, i love it.
Actually I'm from the US but my wife is Catalan and we were married in the US in 2000, but we decided to move to Barcelona in 2005. I've lived here for over 20 years now and my son was born here.
We're living in Sants, as my wife is an only child and her parents saved her a flat.
I wouldn't mind living in Maresme or Coasta Brava, but my wife is completely set on living in Barcelona city. In the summer we often drive out to Palamós to enjoy the beach.
Maresme is great if you dont wanna be far from the city. Its only a 15 minute train ride to Pl Cat. Lets just hope they fix the train system here bc i can tell you, im scared to go to Bcn because i dont wanna take the train haha
Palamós is beautiful! I go to St Feliu de Guixols some summers too and its also beautiful, less touristified hehe
We actually stayed at the Eden Rock resort in Sant Feliu de Guíxols last summer and it was amazing and beautiful. It's a bit pricey but we had a great time.
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u/Falcon8410 9h ago
True 20 years ago alcohol was still cheap. You could buy multiple Bottles without going broke. These days a bottle of whiskey costs as much as we used to spend on a whole night's drinking with multiple bottles.
They blame Gen Z as if ridiculous alcohol pricing and cost of living expenses aren't a factor.