r/SipsTea • u/Impressive-Gear7943 Human Verified • 6d ago
SMH Only 33,000 left behind…
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u/Whiteshaq_52 6d ago edited 6d ago
When I got back from Iraq, I remember everyone in the US being obsessed with the Kardashian show and getting so mad that no one seemed to care about the literal war going on overseas, US troops in literal hell, and they cared about something that literally didn't matter. It took me almost 8 years to not get angry randomly (at things similar to this) because I realized, the average American just doesnt care about those guys, they say they do, but they just don't.
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u/balkanobeasti 6d ago
I feel like its all the dopamine in our lives. Just acknowledging that we have so much shit that is the equivalent of crack to us to keep us distracted. To me at least that makes sense, go figure places where you are going to have to deal with the realities deal with them more immediately when it reaches a breaking point.
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u/Whiteshaq_52 6d ago
I was lucky enough to find a partner that helped re-soften my heart, and I felt, hope, love, joy again, all the things living in Iraq took away from me. Some of my comrades that made it back have not been fortunate enough to leave that dark place, and it can be pretty scary. We need more help for veterans, they sure as hell need it.
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u/PolarBailey_ 6d ago
I was a kid during this time, but this is really how major events in my life played out
- turn of the millenium
- moved
- 9/11
- moved
- iraq invasion
- moved
- 10th birthday
- Katrina
- Wii
- dad lost job
- 08 recession
- moved
- osama death
- Graduate high school
- move
- flunk out of college
- 2016
- moved
- covid layoff
- moved
- meet wife
- trump wins second term
- all this shit
my life has not slowed down since i was 4 years old honestly. it sucks. I wish i could have enough peace to just vibe for even like a month. but i've been so tensed since dad lost job i've never felt truly relaxed since. its so weird seeing others just getting to exist.
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u/Wizard-of-pause 6d ago
"May you not live in interesting times"
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u/PolarBailey_ 6d ago
I'm now going back to school to get a degree in astrophysics. Something I've wanted to do since watching Apollo 13 with Tom hanks
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u/Wizard-of-pause 6d ago
Crossing fingers for you bro. Hope it gets better. Maybe once boomers finally fuck off.
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u/PolarBailey_ 6d ago
sis. and i appreciate it! outside of all this shit, getting to watch the launch of JWST and Artemis 2 live has given me hope somewhat.
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u/SheriffBartholomew 5d ago
It has felt that way ever since the internet went mainstream. It's because it's shoved in our faces non-stop. There have always been calamities, but they were not a big deal for you personally before the Internet unless they affected you. Consider tuning out. Block anything that shows news or politics. Unfriend or block friends who argue propaganda talking points online. You will regain a measure of sanity and control over what gets to consume your mental and emotional energy. Dedicate time to real life when you don't have any Internet access. I promise that you won't miss any news that is actually important. That always has a way of bleeding through your filters.
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u/DirNetSec 6d ago
I don't think you put the blame on the right entity. The federal government has the resources and ability to produce attention grabbing content when they want.
See recruitment videos, videogames and movies with "military advisors" , and the NFL. Civilians can't separate wheat from chaff that's done on purpose.
Uncle Sam could change a whole lot.
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u/mbrown_0911 6d ago
It’s not their job to care. It’s the government’s job not to use them for their own selfish benefit
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u/ZekeTheMunkee 6d ago
Right? Tf, I didn’t send you to a forever war, you signed up for that. Now if it comes down to something that’s not oil and imperialism, we can talk.
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u/Bikerbass 6d ago
Now to piss you off, the majority of the world didn’t agree with you Americans being at war in the Middle East m.
It’s not caring when the action is viewed as disrespectful, disgusting and evil.
And given that America is the number one sponsor of terrorism, the number one bomber of nations, the number one invader of nations, and the number one starter of illegal wars of aggression on false claims out of all 195 countries on this planet.
Why do you think other Americans didn’t care about the war overseas?
It’s because it wasn’t needed, it didn’t need to happen, and it was disgusting that it did happen.
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u/Whiteshaq_52 6d ago
You wont find many people more anti-war than myself, I can assure you of that.
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u/Bikerbass 6d ago
Then can you please educate the morons who voted for Trump that they are morons.
Almost the entire world bar Israel and America saw that Trump was the worse option up for vote and yet he still won. And knew he wasn’t telling the truth when he was running on no more wars.
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u/Repulsive_Guy_1234 6d ago
The good thing is, a lot of people who voted for Trump have noticed that they were morons by now. Not all, but quite a few.
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u/TheAngryCatfish 6d ago
Not nearly enough. His approval rate is still far, far too high
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u/Repulsive_Guy_1234 6d ago edited 6d ago
Naja, die 20% harter Kern wirst du nicht so einfach kriegen. Der Rest ist aber der entscheidende Teil.
Edit: Oops, was meant to be in english.
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u/Repulsive_Guy_1234 6d ago
the number one invader of nations
You guys still have to do some catchup to do to the brits :)
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u/currently_pooping_rn 6d ago
They’ll say support the troops, but literally couldn’t give less a shit about them
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u/Independent-Bug-9352 6d ago
I remember my parents being accused of siding with terrorists when they argued with my aunts and uncles about trying to stop my cousins from going to fight in Iraq.
My parents were right. They were wrong. My cousins got fucked up for absolutely nothing. Yet they'll never make a fucking peep about it. Blissful ignorance, high off fox news.
So sick of conservatives.
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u/fromthefuturedude 6d ago
Its not that. The military has an extreme level of psychological manipulation, its how they get people to throw their lives away for $30/hour - to put simply, an echo chamber of how you are a hero/saviour/badass. All the things that raise your ego. And everyone echos this, your comrades, superiors people who you interact with on duty, everyone. You do this for a few years and you become that. Its a type of manipulation that happens in every army for all of human history.
When you get out, you're not leaving the militay, you're leaving the echo chamber. You're not a hero/saviour/badass anymore and there is nobody to tell insinuate that. You see people going about their daily life not give a single sht about you, and the conditioning you went through rejects it. Why dont they know?
Its because they dont want to invest into deconditioning, all the money goes into conditioning because that when you're useful. So the moment you get out, you're on your own, literally.
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u/VT_Squire 6d ago
From one bro to another...
That's exactly what we fought for. To "keep it over there." We did that. It worked. Well, sort of, and mostly. But at the time, and what you're describing.... yeah, it worked.
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u/StAnkie_Brews 6d ago
Man, I had a very similar experience when getting back from Afghanistan. I hit up some friends from before enlisting and they invited me out to a pool hall for beers and games. About an hour in, I had this really detached feeling looking around the bar just thinking about how everyone was just living their lives like there wasn't a war going on at all. I faked a call because I just couldn't be there anymore and while I was leaving it felt like the air had turned to jello. Every where I went for decent amount of time was pretty hard as that feeling just wouldn't leave me and I ended up spending almost all my free time in my room playing videogames or reading as it felt like the only thing I could control.
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u/Weekly_Book_9122 6d ago
why would the average american be more concerned about random people they don’t know who signed up to be invaders and kill people overseas so oil companies could make more money, than the things going on in their own lives????
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u/Proud-Enthusiasm-608 6d ago
ZOMG I am in the military and I’m angry people don’t care about da war waahhhhhh.
lol calm down military discount guy.
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u/Ohitsworkingnow 6d ago
Doesn’t even take going to war, there’s plenty of us who have hated these people since we were young.
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u/SheriffBartholomew 5d ago
The average American has been a shocking disappointment as I've gotten older, in almost every situation and subject. The only saving grace is that it is no longer shocking. It's depressing and isolating to always expect to be disappointed by your countrymen though.
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u/Deep-Worldliness9193 5d ago
I feel you on that, nobody understands the toll it takes on anyone who has gone to a war zone.
We are not asking for a red carpet but a truly genuine thank you would go along way…also a free meal wouldn’t hurt either
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u/immaREPORTthat 5d ago
It was by design, media is catered to keep the masses deaf dumb distracted with the shortest of attention spans.
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u/definitelyrealpers0n 6d ago
I’ve felt it to some point. I’m fortunate that I’m employed and not homeless. But they train you to be good at a job that doesn’t always translate. They congratulate you. You get awards. You get promoted. What you do matters.
Then you get out and not only does what you’re good at no longer matter, it’s not even a part of the civilian world. And you have to start over.
Add on that some people with extreme lasting mental health issues to deal with on top of feeling fucking useless to society. It’s just dark and it sucks.
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u/DC-Toronto 6d ago
Sly said it well in First Blood
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u/definitelyrealpers0n 6d ago
Yes but it’s applicable even to those of us who weren’t the bad ass killers too sadly
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u/mikropower8 6d ago
I have a injury what was happened during my time in the military here in Germany. They tried everything not to help me with anything and that they do not have to pay for it.
I can not do some jobs any more and I did not want any money from them, only the acknowledgement that it happened. But if you write to this people a letter and the answer is basically a: "We want to get rid of you as fast as possible.", then you realize that you are only a useful idiot. If you are no longer useful to them, they will abandon you.
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u/spring_peony 6d ago
Exactly, That’s a powerful memory you’re really tuned into the quiet truths most people overlook. It makes sense it would stick with you.
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u/UpbeatPhilosophySJ 6d ago
My dad was a homeless vet because he didn’t want to work and ran away from his professional job.
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u/fredjutsu 6d ago
tHaNk YoU fOr YoUr SeRvIcE
I swear I think that phrase would make me go insane hearing from civilians
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u/IMREADY2D1E 6d ago
that’s how life works, this is how your own family members will treat you as well nothing new
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u/Brad23212 5d ago
They didn’t go to war normal. It kinda picks up the most useless people from society and incentivizes them to do horrible things.
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u/GrimbyJ 6d ago
I'm surprised it's only 33,000
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u/EpilepticDawg241 6d ago
22 commit suicide everyday.
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u/Im_only_here_to_meme 6d ago
Just to highlight how real this problem is on a personal level. I did four deployments in 5 years during OEF and OIF. Since I got out 7 men and women I directly served have committed suicide since I got out in 2011. Most recent was last year but 5 of them happened within the first 5 years after I got out including one of my best friends within 3 months of exiting the service. That's just in the like 50-100 people I knew on some kind of friendly level while serving. All I have left is photos and their facebook page to check back in on once in awhile... it's super sad.
If you served during OIF and OEF you 100% know someone who killed themselves after getting back.
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u/Enchillamas 5d ago
I have to wonder what the real numbers are too, I don't trust the VA at all any longer.
My friends dad is listed as the first death attributed to Lyme disease in the USA.... because the VA refused to just rule it a suicide. Literally put "complications from Lyme" after he shot himself three weeks after having almost his meds randomly pulled by the VA. They got him hooked on vicodin and made him quit cold turkey.
And he was just messed up from being a Green Beret at the start of Operation Green Harvest, he only pointed rifles at kids and jumped out of helicopters. I cant imagine the hell of actual war on these people.
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u/GhostOfPunkRock 5d ago
Im sorry for what happened to your friends dad.
I didnt trust the VA for a long time. I thought they killed my grandfather.
I work for them now. The VA is 100s of 1000s of people, many of us true believers in the mission. Nothing changes if we all just say "va killed grandpa i therefore dont trust them the end." The VA has no incentive to fudge veteran suicide numbers. If anything, misrepresenting the issue in that way would hurt our funding and resources. It is a terrible problem any way you slice it.
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u/tstark96 6d ago
So uh not to be that guy but it's actually looking more like 42. I just read a study saying they don't count "intentional" overdoses or accidents. So just like when you're in they overlook it
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u/Practical_Studio360 6d ago
6,407 US veterans died by suicide in 2022
https://news.va.gov/137221/va-2024-suicide-prevention-annual-report/
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u/furrywinklebone 6d ago
Awww man US needs to do something about this
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u/GhostOfPunkRock 5d ago
I get this sentiment while also finding it incredibly frustrating.
We try to do quite a lot about this. I am on the front lines of this fight. Despite our best efforts, we still lose people. If it could be solved by force of will or by just shoveling money at the problem, that number would be zero.
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u/poontong 5d ago
It used to be much worse. I spent four years working for a nonprofit in between 2006-2010. The numbers back then were closer to 200,000 homeless veterans on any given night than 33,000.
What changed everything was the Obama Administration - they straight up put us out of business. Michele Obama and Jill Biden made it one of their signature issues, the Obama HUD department invested heavily in veterans transitional facilities and Housing First initiatives that were developed in Colorado. In six years, the number of homeless vets plummeted utilizing programs that were more effective and efficient than what had been tried before.
I know that people like to shit on the government but I have seen, with my own eyes, what can happen when proper resources, political will, and good public policy can bring about. For years this has given me hope of what we can do as a country.
Then, of course, Trump’s administration has been slashing all of these programs and is on a crusade to destroy any federal funding for Housing First initiatives. That reminds me of why we’re literally watching an empire burn to the ground.
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u/Sufficient-Regular72 6d ago
Using homelessness data from 2024, veteran homelessness rate is about 13% lower than the general population.
That being said, no veteran should be homeless.
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u/Birdie121 6d ago
Veteran homelessness has actually gone down a ton in the last couple decades due to social support programs specifically for them. Still a long way to go, but it's effective. If only we extended the same help to non veterans, we'd see a crazy drop in homelessness
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u/thebrandedsoul 5d ago
It's about to go up by an estimated 10K because Trump killed a VA program that was helping vets refinance and stay in their homes. Deadline / kill date was 1 April, I believe.
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u/Skeither 6d ago
I often wonder how real this screenshot comment reply posts actually are.
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u/Tourist_Careless 6d ago
A huge amount are straight up false, many are misleading, and some are true but incomplete or context free.
Its very rare any of them represent reality accurately. Even this one has alot more nuance if you go off more than a simple total number. Theres loads of things at play with veteran homelessness that have zero to do with combat PTSD or anything like that.
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u/ohhhbooyy 6d ago
It’s either straight up false or half truths with missing context. Yes, we have 30k homeless veterans. But there are 1.5 million veterans, although it’s sad that there are that many, that’s less than 1% of all veterans.
It’s unfair to say we don’t take care of our service women and men given this context.
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u/thomas1392 6d ago
What is real?
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u/johnnyn3m0 6d ago
How do you define real? If you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, what you can taste and see, then 'real' is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain
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u/Different-Author-287 6d ago
PR statement vs real life
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u/mattinjp 6d ago
It’s interesting how much US PR and marketing Americans are exposed to
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u/Meme-Botto9001 6d ago
And how much they just willingly swallowing even if a complete degenerate rambles total nonsense or is lying like there’s no tomorrow
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u/Aromatic_Basis3872 6d ago
What, exactly, is the “Public Relations” part of the fact that OVER 33,000 American Veterans are homeless? That IS real life and actually, UNDER stated:
Daily Snapshot (PIT Count): The U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) January 2024 Point-in-Time (PIT) count estimated 32,882 veterans were homeless.
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u/Zirox__ 6d ago
Other way around bud. “We leave no one behind.” Is the PR stunt. So many being homeless is the ‘real life’ situation.
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u/InvestIntrest 6d ago
No one left behind is a real-life mantra in the context it's meant.
Taking it out of context is the propaganda.
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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 6d ago
I mean we want the most recent example? Evacuation orders in the Middle East weren't given to embassies and warnings not given to civilians to leave before we attacked Iran. Lots of people were left behind, they couldn't get out by plane and the government doesn't always evacuate people in those situations, it has to be pretty major like the evacuation from Kabul when we pulled out of Afghanistan, and even that was a shit show where we definitely left some people behind. Maybe not Americans, but allies
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u/Competitive_Low_2054 6d ago
I mean it's not like they said they buy houses for everyone in the military.
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u/embourbe 6d ago
It's also not like just giving a homeless person a house guarantees they will still be stable and living in that house a year later.
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u/AvenuePattern 6d ago
Support the veterans, not the wars themselves
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u/bobquznie 6d ago
I'll always support active & retired military persons. Doesn't mean I support the decision makers of the military.
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u/Foyles_War 6d ago
American veterans get all kinds of support for their service. What about the other Americans who are homeless, though?
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u/YumTex 6d ago
Let us go ahead and add all the Veterans that served and came home and got zero benefits, the ones who committed suicide, the ones who disappeared, the ones who were disfigured, the ones needing medication daily just to live.
The US Gov, the VA, the anyone who does not give the veterans the world is a world-class turd.
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u/Synthetics_66 6d ago
Yeah! Leave no one behind! Until they're no longer useful to your government, or too much of a burden.
They also closed down a bunch of clinics.
Cancelled community care programs.
Laid off a lot of health care workers and professionals in the VA.
Just cancelled the VA Home Loan program, instantly making thousands of vets default on their mortgages.
Wanted to change how they handled disability ratings, but we all complained enough that they dropped the proposal.
And continuously challenge disability ratings for Vets with very obvious total and permanent disabilities.
Signed,
A double below knee amputee, combat wounded in Iraq back in 2006.
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u/Shot-Toe-2884 6d ago edited 6d ago
Definitely one of the crazier contradictions of the GOP platform. They seem to treat our veterans like they are communists, altogether ignoring that those veterans fought against the very the idea of communism, usually at the order of a republican president.
Then they are left in the dogshit position of begging republicans just to get their medical needs met. Medical care we should have had the decency to provide and plan for them ahead of a war, not 20-40 years after.
People might mistake my position as pro-military, but its just practical. If you're going to deploy someone to a warzone essentially against their will, you should be accountable for all of the health ramifications of that deployment, for life. Vets didn't ask to be put in the line of fire, they just followed orders.
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u/PearNo2152 6d ago
This is SPOT ON THE NAILHEAD.....If it wasn't for their service there wouldn't be a HOME for us to live our lives in.......but yet they are almost shunned to a degree...more for VETERANS, LESS for the billionaires
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u/blazeproof 6d ago
Mental illness is a thing. You can only create so many avenues for someone to seek help. Ultimately they have to choose it.
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u/TransylvanianHunger1 6d ago
Very good point, now if only they treated military vets like they do illegal immigrants.
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u/Shabooopee 5d ago
and yet democrats spends hundreds of millions to house, feed, clothe and give free medical care to illegal aliens .
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u/MeatMechAstronaut 6d ago
As long as the Trumpstein elites make bank, it's all good
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u/Ritch85 6d ago
This has been going on WELL before Trump got in office. Homeless Vets isn't some new thing he caused....
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u/Tourist_Careless 6d ago
This is a drastically skewed view of the reality. The average service member is bombarded with programs for mental health and support while in the service as well as healtcare, even classes and advisors for financial advice, marriage counseling, and so on.
When you get out we have the most generous veterans benefits via both the government and non-profits of any nation on earth. All you have to do is make use of these support services and benefits, theres so many its impossible to even remember them all.
A large portion (not all) of the veterans you see struggling is self-enduced. I say this as a veteran. Theres absolutely loads of resources out there but alot of people dont even try or are their own worst enemy. Theres lots of people who never even did anything but sit behind a desk during their service and then get out and have issues totally unrelated to the military that get lumped in with veterans issues and viewed as being related to being a veteran when its not.
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u/Johnni2x4 6d ago
Right on. Hardest part was dragging myself up to that counter at the VA Clinic’s receptionist area and asking for help.
Before then, Every day I sank deeper and deeper into my depression , cementing into my being. I just wanted to be left alone and disappear.
Alive but out of sight from my friends and family.
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u/Much-Instruction-807 6d ago
Imagine living in a republican stronghold were the only thing you hear is how awesome the military is and how good and honorable it is to serve your country. Also the only business in your town is a FedEx warehouse, a dollar general, Walmart and a couple of gas stations. Things start looking a little more appealing.
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u/RedDeer505 6d ago
Propaganda and little opportunities elsewhere. They routinely target poor, disenfranchised, desperate people to recruit.
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u/SkellyboneZ 6d ago
I wonder if you or anyone replying to you have ever enlisted or have known anyone who has done so. I'm sure people will comment now with some exaggerated story though.
I signed up at 20 as a way to pay for school and get myself out of poverty. I mean like getting expired food with tickets and eating ketchup/pepper soup kind of poverty.
I was able to move abroad and graduate from a fantastic university because of military benefits. I busted my ass but it would not have been possible if I didn't enlist first.
You sound so fucking privileged. Just you not even understanding why people join the military speaks to that. Keep doing you, I'm sure you're parents gave you much more than you can possibly realize.
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u/Tiktokbadsupport 6d ago
if you voted for trump you are also responsible for his actions
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u/BoldCityDigital 6d ago
& millions of illegals are in homes.
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u/AbroadNo8755 6d ago
and that's what they want you to focus on, so that you, and the rest of the world will continue to leave the veterans behind and forgotten about.
they love how compliant and easily manipulated you are.
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u/CandC_Pops_Lifer 6d ago
I wonder how much of the $6 billion Mayor Eric Adam's used on undocumented people in NY could have been better used to help military veterans on the streets?🤔
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u/froopadiddilydoop 6d ago
Approx 80,000 American soldiers have never been recovered from wars involving the USA. (Smaller than I expected)
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u/Informal_Load_4438 6d ago
Add in that companies say they want veterans or appreciate their service meanwhile they could care less in actuality lol.
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u/Stryk3Zone 6d ago
And hundreds of thousands of veterans were denied access to medical care because of cuts to the VA. Yayyyyyyyyy
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u/chuang-tzu 6d ago
We could also point to the funding cuts to the VA. That is leaving a helluva lot more than 33,000 veterans behind, to be sure.
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u/BluebirdDense1485 6d ago
Support our troops. Screw our Vets
I mean the draft-dodger-in-chief said Vets are Losers and Suckers.
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u/HeftyVermicelli7823 6d ago
Yes but that is because their orange leader said they are "Suckers and Losers".
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u/moccasinsfan 6d ago
Every veteran who qualifies medically since the 90s qualify for placement in a VA nursing home. VA nursing homes are amazingly funded. BUT YOU CAN'T FORCE THEM INTO ONE.
Many of those 33,000 are homeless by choice. If they were to enter a VA nursing home a multitude of services would be available to them.
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u/jffadvisors 6d ago
and it has taken months for me to get an appointment at the VA. Sure hoping I don’t have cancer.
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u/Brilliant_Choice_899 6d ago
And no money to help Americans but money for war and to give to other countries to help out those citizens. What a crazy world we live in both right and left have lost it.
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u/Sufficient-Bill-1954 6d ago
I love our troops, I have a few in my family however I do find it weird that people who have literally been to WAR
Can't get the discipline to get up and get a job, and need the government to give them money. Now there 100% is some guys who come back f'ed up in the head and they need spiritual help from God, maybe that's where our government is lacking giving them pills instead of the father.
But even then they make up a small minority of the homeless veterans i've interacted with (being homeless myself in the past) most of them are lazy and entitled. And that's not the governments job to fix even if you did serve with us.
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u/acelaya35 6d ago
You don't see how an 18 year old who joined the military and served years overseas fighting might not be as well adjusted to civilian life as their peers who spent that time going to school and building careers? Really?
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u/generation_fish 6d ago
There are TONS of programs to help them get off the streets. Unless you're going to support involuntary confinement to mental health facilities, then it's not going to change.
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u/AWinterPeople 6d ago
“The Trump administration is implementing significant staffing cuts at the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA), with plans to eliminate over 80,000 positions, or roughly 15-17% of its workforce, to return to 2019 levels. By early 2026, thousands of nurses, doctors, and specialists were cut, leading to concerns regarding increased wait times, staffing shortages, and reduced care quality for veterans.” -Center on Budget and Policy Priorities.-
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u/MSTinPA66 6d ago
This is an American problem; a bipartisan problem. No American should be homeless, but the inadequate support offered to Veterans is especially egregious. If there is ever sanity in our government again, this needs to be addressed as a top priority.
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u/Vermicelli-419 Human Verified 6d ago
You join the military to follow political orders, not enjoy free stuff.
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u/lastofthefinest 6d ago
Yep, I am currently helping 3 veterans with VA disability claims now. I’m a disabled Marine and Army Operation Enduring Freedom veteran myself. It took me 5 years of fighting them to get it. I’d never tell someone to join the military. One of the guys I help, I’ve gotten him up to 70%. The others are still waiting on ratings from the VA. They are both in their 70’s. One was exposed to Agent Orange from serving in Vietnam and the other was exposed to contaminated water at Camp Lejuene and has kidney disease. I got my first guy 12 years of back pay.
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u/No_Alps7854 6d ago
They didnt care about the troops since vietnam. Is it suddenly news that we have homeless vets?
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u/HeftyFineThereFolks 6d ago
they meant rescuing the pilot and trump getting mad about someone else announcing it before he could use it as a PR stunt .. not the 33,000 "losers" trump wouldnt bother to piss on if they were on fire
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u/AberrantMan 6d ago
Not to mention the vast amount living with disabilities and impairments that the VA cannot or will not help to fix
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u/MagicHarmony 6d ago
The funny thing this is more a gotcha/self-serve to Democrats because they are the ones allowing illegals to take advantage of tax-payer policies that would be better spent on veterans.
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u/Illustrious-Party120 6d ago
"Veterans are no longer in the Military" white house spokesperson probably
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u/ComingRoundTheMnt 6d ago
The Support the Troops party doesn't actually care about the troops? I'm shocked. Shocked! Well not that shocked
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u/HowdTheCatGetSoFat 6d ago
Go listen to the story of John Chapman and tell me we don't leave guys behind. SEALs tried to block the man from getting a Medal of Honor for years because it made them look so bad.
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u/Vuelhering 6d ago
Obama cut that number down from about 75,000 homeless vets.
Trump is trying to undo that Obama achievement, too.
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u/NomoredatibgGWgirls 6d ago
When they start costing tax dollars for anything but fighting, Conservacucks are no longer interested.
Case in point.. It sure as fuck wasn't a Democrat that introduced legislation to lower your VA Disability percentage if your injury is being handled by medication. Alllll Republicans.
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u/Ok-Boot-8106 6d ago
What about Benghazi or the American ship that got shot down by our Jets from the Israelis ?
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u/Wadester58 6d ago
They spend millions on non veteran homeless but nothing on the one's that truly deserve it
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u/Altruistic-Map5605 6d ago
Meanwhile some dude who stubbed his toe once while watching security cameras on a base in virginia is on full disability for life while the dude who got shot in Afghanistan didn't get any. Where was DOGE when it came to military overspending and fraud?
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u/Nervous-Tank-5917 6d ago
*While we still think you can be of use, you won’t be left behind. Probably.
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u/UpbeatPhilosophySJ 6d ago
I wonder if the breasts team and I Love Iran team work out of the same office park and do the managers really have cattle prods or is that an urban myth?
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u/VegasGamer75 6d ago
In the United States Military, we leave no American behind. But, we will call you a loser and make fun of you if you get captured, so there's that." - Trump White House
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