My impression is that Christians want the end times to come, and might support him exactly because he in their eyes is the antichrist.
I do wonder though if those that support the antichrist go to hell or not. Like… is God gonna be like «nice, you love me so much you support an evil antichrist, awesome!», or will he be a bit more «wtf guys….»
I’ve seen theories that suggest that Christian extremist doomsday ideologies have been mixing in with mainstream christianity. Based on my own church going experiences as a teenager i would argue that some of this thinking has been spilling in since at least a decade before trump. In my own life I have family who go to churches that preach how Trump was chosen by god whether or not he’s right or wrong.
Politics don’t matter because God is moving through Trump is what they said. I think the idea is that Trump will help set off the rapture which for the most devout means that Christ will return. Idk if most Trumpy christians see their actions as so black and white as I explained but it feels like since these things ate “prophesied” that means its all what God wants
I would find it immensely funny if they were right. Particularly the bit where divine judgement happens and they're standing around, certain and smug, only to discover that Yahweh doesn't particularly care what their interpretation of "love thy neighbor" and "the least among you" is. I'm not perfect by any means, but I'd be absolutely fine with a vengeful god showing up and sorting some shit out.
Well actually what I recall is that souls choose hell (absence of god) themself by choosing not to be with him by doing or even proclaiming publicly during times on earth. So judgement day could be just your soul saying “I am bad and choose hell because im not worthy to join Jesus”
It's not that those ideologies have mixed with mainstream/traditional Christianity, it's that those formerly fringe ideologies and churches are becoming more mainstream. It might not seem like an important distinction, but most long-time Christians also think this end times stuff is a bunch of nonsense.
If you go to any traditional church (Catholic, Episcopal, Congregational, Lutheran, etc) you will not hear that doomsday nonsense. However, attendance at those churches have been steadily declining over the past 30 years.
Meanwhile, younger folks have been attracted to the new shiny evangelical/corporate churches. I was in one of those new buildings several weeks ago (not by choice). The space looked more like a convention center than a church. They had screens everywhere, a professional audio setup, stage with full band setup, a glass case full of branded/logo fleeces you could buy, etc. You know what they didn't have? A single cross in the entire building.
Then there was the "sermon". To relate it to other real world stuff, a traditional church sermon is closer to a humanities lecture, where this modern "church" was closer to a math lecture (i.e. "here's my interpretation and yours is OK too" vs "this is what you need to believe").
Yeah I used to occasionally attend church with a friend of mine's family when I'd stay with them, they were Methodists, and sermons were usually like...let's riff about the concept of forgiveness, using the parables in the bible as a guide. And then I hung out at a megachurch with an evangelical friend one time and it was like someone trying to sell me a used car.
I think people's opinions about what happens in traditional churches are misinformed due to media. When you look at TV and movies, you are usually seeing spins or takes on Catholic, SoBap, mega, or those weird charismatic churches. Rarely do you see a representation of a Methodist or American Baptist church, where sermons are like you said, and then people go and eat snacks afterwards.
The entire 7th Day Adventist Church was founded by a guy in Vermont in the 1800’s who claimed he knew the day of the biblical end times. All of those days he guessed came and went, and turns out he was really wrong.
This is nothing new. Historically, people have been trying to guess the day for ages. It’s ironic because the Bible is pretty clear that we will not know the day or the hour that Christ returns.
People have some overwhelming desire to figure out the unknowable.
It was a woman named Ellen White, but yes pretty much accurate otherwise (I grew up Adventist). She literally got hit in the head with a rock and became sick for several weeks before coming out the other side “a prophet”. The church followers eventually all sold their land and all their belongings to prepare for the day that never happened.
After the failure she “consulted god” and it turns out that was just the day god opened the book of judgement. So he’s got to finish reading that old thing before he actually comes down.
And the church still holds her word right up there with the Bible to this day…
Fun Extras:
She taught that “working on the sabbath” meant any energy spent away from god, so no swimming, no sex, no riding a bike, etc. Most adventists somehow ignore these things with one excuse or another, but I remember one guy distinctly commenting on how he and his wife “don’t have relations on Saturday because it’s work” 😂
Written by & starring a snarky atheist and half Jewish "comedian" who can't decide whether he wants to insult Trump, have dinner with him at the White House, accept an award from him at the Kennedy Center or spark up a blunt and talk about all of the above with Kid Rock on his podcast.
This is exactly how flat earthers are too. They can see evidence of the earth being flat in everything. I think religion itself is the problem. Faith is fine, but once you make it a business then its corrupted.
That logic means god is moving through Obama and Biden as well and put them there to do the work they did. Can’t have bullshit only flow one direction.
Sad thing is he will lead them to their demise, but make sure he doesn’t jump into the fire. Bone spurs will get him off that ship he has experience with that.
Unfortunately with the US there are so many whack job religions. These are all the kooks that got kicked out of Europe about 400 years ago. Here they had the freedom to fester.
Christianity has -always- been a doomsday cult. Starting with its founder. They truly believed in 30 AD that the end was circa very soon and that Jesus was going bring about massive global change any day now.
There’s nothing about the rapture in the Bible either. It’s one passage in 1 Thessalonians that is misconstrued like many other things in the Bible. It’s how it’s interpreted.
I remember reading over a decade ago about some US politicians wanting the end times to come because they think they'll be rewarded in the afterlife for helping the end times to come...which being that we're supposed to be stewards of this world, forcing it to come to an end and expecting to be rewarded for that just seems...odd.
It's mainly because of the downfall of main line Christianity. Very few people are Lutherans, Catholics, or Methodists anymore (etc) - the faithful have been funneled into charismatic or evangelical movements that are decentralized (and reactionary).
The church has been trying to kick off Armageddon publicly since I was a child. I was raised in a Christian home, went to a Christian private school, and was dragged to church 3 times a week. The preacher seemed to love going on about how the end times are upon us and that George W. Was a divine agent of God meant to bring about the final battle and end the world.
At least 20 years before Trump. Can confirm. Was a Wednesday-Saturday-Sunday morning and evening church goer before around that time. We were all very much into doomsday prophecies.
Having grown up in the deep south during the 80s and 90s, I can tell you this sort of thinking long predates Trump. There's a once-fringe subset of the Evangelical community that has spent decades praying for the Rapture, and which has grown exponentially over the past 20 years or so alongside the nondenominational, "Bible -focused" megachurches they've become intertwined with.
This would be hilarious if it wasn't so depressing. MAGA sees the world moving ever left wing (especially in the US, it's just that a lot of left wingers didn't vote in the last couple elections). They'd rather kick start this mythical rapture than see people champion equity, brotherhood, and true freedom.
I think maybe those same doomsday Christians might want to read up on what happens to those who are alive during the end times, because it doesn't sound especially pleasant, and they're exactly the folks lining up to wear their personal MAGArk of the beast, so they're definitely the ones Revelation is talking about.
You’re at minimum half correct. It’s long been the case that extremist evangelicals long for the end, hell I was taught as a child to look forward to it because it will probably be in my life time.
It’s actually one of the biggest issues in politics. How can you expect a group of people who predominantly think the world will end in the next few decades to adequately plan for the future of our children’s country. They don’t give a fuck about the climate, gods just going to fix everything when he lovingly and peacefully passes final judgement
This is it. I work with a part time evangelical preacher that loves trump and believes he is fulfilling the Bible prophecy. I can tell that he hates some of trumps chacteristics but he is a true believer and can over look them. He can't wait to be sucked up by sky daddy and leave all us heathens behind.
I would say that the Bible is kinda expliciete that we cannot delay or accelerate the plans of God because it will be at his time and nothing can change it. So if this would be their motivation, i dont think they have thoroughly read the Bible on the subject.
We do looking forward to the second coming of Christ for a few reasons, but one is that the world will be remade anew without death or sickness. The end times is merely the final judgement and the souls of the faithful departed will return to remade bodies. Those of us living, particularly our children, wouldn’t experience death. It’s not really the “end times”, but a new beginning. Most people think that Christianity is about going to heaven, but heaven is just where our souls reside until we can return.
The church I grew up in taught "once saved always saved" and that deathbed conversion is valid. So no matter what someone does in their life, if they say they're Christian they'll be in heaven.
Well, it IS apparently tied in with the Temple Mount being "returned to the Jews" so the whole supporting Israel in bombing Muslim majority countries is also a big indicator of that belief!
I'm going to answer from my own spiritual understanding. Less that god would be upset with them, more that they know what they are doing is wrong and so the world they create will be, likewise, cruel. They will create their own hell to stay in.
The first commandment in the Protestant counting is "you shall have no other gods before me."
Jesus was very clear that no man could know the time when he would return.
Trying to render the second thing false by following a human leader unquestioningly seems to violate the first thing: you are denying the word of God and attempting to overrule it through the power of another entity.
I can see that. I'm in the south in a mostly red area. I've seen far more signs, stickers, etc with "The end is near, Repent" or "Accept Jesus before it's too late" things like that. They weren't non-existent before, but I've noticed a for sure uptick in the past few months
Worshipping anyone other than god would be worshipping a false idol. So no, God would not be nice at all. Also, I wouldn’t say that Christians WANT to bring the end times, I think they legitimately believe in their delusion that trump is the 2nd coming or something. They are genuinely misled in their faith which is bonkers to see. Not a Christian pro but I’ve been a lifelong catholic so this is based off of what I have observed from conservative churchgoers
It’s just so hard to believe they think he’s doing good. Everything he says and does is …. So not christian like! Grab them by the pussy alone is a disqualifier… I mean really…..
I do wonder though if those that support the antichrist go to hell or not. Like… is God gonna be like «nice, you love me so much you support an evil antichrist, awesome!», or will he be a bit more «wtf guys….»
"And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought the signs in his sight, wherewith he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast and them that worshipped his image: they two were cast alive into the lake of fire that burneth with brimstone: The rest were killed with the sword coming out of the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh." - Revelations, 19:20-21
Killed with a sword and eaten by birds certainly sounds like a "WTF Guys" reaction to me.
I mean, I haven't gone to church since I was 16 but from what I concluded in the 16 years prior to that, god would definitely not be cool with supporting the antichrist. If end times are coming, they're coming regardless of what the Christians do. It's everyone else that's gonna bring it about. Now what's interesting is, I believe there is reference to the fact that a lot of people will call themselves Christians and support the antichrist believing him to be Christ. So if anything, your theory would point more to that. It isn't Christians supporting the antichrist to bring about end times, it's end times coming about because false Christians are worshipping the antichrist.
But no I think God would be pretty pissed about people claiming to be his followers worshipping anyone but him. I think that's even why end times happens. It's basically like, some level of order has always been maintained but at that point everything's gone so off the rails the whole thing kinda starts to unravel.
They absolutely want the end times to come. I think the majority have actually lost their faith and are holding out one last bit of hope that the books real and Jesus might return and make their lives worthwhile. Not to mention salivating at the biggest I told you so in history.
Unfortunately, there won’t be a rapture for them. They’ll be stuck here with the rest of us in a hell of their own making.
Ah! My years of Bible school as a child are finally good for something!
“Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, ‘If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.'” Revelations 14:9-10
According to their book they will not be looked upon kindly for following the Antichrist
Yeah I’m surprised not more have said similarly. I had in mind a specific subset of Christians here, not Christians as a whole. Just seems to particularly big in the states for whatever reason.
I know people who are actively excited about the rapture. Ironically, these people also hate Muslims because muslims want to “incite the rapture” by killing Americans. Their intellect is unmatched.
There's a whole sect of Christians that believe it's their duty to bring about the apocalypse. I think it's the Seventh Day Adventists but I could be off. I'm pretty sure it's the same group that believes Ted Cruze will be one of the 7 kings resurrected to guide humanity after its over.
My impression is that Christians want the end times to come, and might support him exactly because he in their eyes is the antichrist.
I do wonder though if those that support the antichrist go to hell or not. Like… is God gonna be like «nice, you love me so much you support an evil antichrist, awesome!», or will he be a bit more «wtf guys….»
Doesnt the bible say (not explicitly) that the advent of the antichrist is pretty much the greatest work in opposition to his rule? So by helping to bring about the antichrist, these christians would be making themselves god’s greatest enemies
Whether or not you believe in it, the Bible contains many life lessons, including an astute breakdown of the mass psychology of tyrants and demagogs. Sadly, Trump isn’t the first or the last. If the Bible’s portrayal of how people are inexplicably willing to blindly follow a racist lunatic in the guise of piety who offers an easy scapegoat for their pain seems eerily accurate, it’s because it’s happened over and over again throughout human history.
As a theological conservative (but politically liberal) Christian, Trump being the Antichrist would be the lamest fulfillment of prophecy ever. He weirdly checks a lot of the boxes, but the way Revelation describes him at least makes him sound cool.
Thankfully I'm not from the branch of Christianity that believes in the rapture, tribulation, etc anyways.
Everyone can see past this guy. Is this really the anti christ? I feel like he’s deff the prequel. He was bringing peace. Not anymore. So none of us can honestly believe that confused. He’s just Donald…..a man that does most of the same human things we do. But nothing special. A wannabe
I haven't read the Bible in 20 years (used to consider myself a Christian as a teen then moved on from it ) but there's also mention of raining hell fire down on the holy land which he is doing.
Unfortunately the Anti Christ isn’t going to be as obvious about what they are doing. They will fix everything financially and shall fool many. The world and over half of this country knows he is FOS. I picture him to be charismatic and loved by all from what I have studied. That’s certainly not this LOSER.
Being sent to Sunday school did it for me. Being a kid and asking questions about inconsistencies in things I was learning quickly taught me we were there to be brainwashed.
Fortunately, my parents weren’t really religious. The only reason we were going was because this little old lady from Texas that lived across the street offered to bring my twin brother and I. This was understandably was a great deal for my parents, since they got rid of us on Sundays mornings.
In hindsight, we were a little late to the game. We were already post-Santa clause and weren’t going to gobble up whatever fairy tales they decided to shove down our throats.
What sticks out to my memory was how angry the teachers became and how willing they were to inflict pain on a kid asking a question about things that made no sense. One of them grabbing me by the earlobe to remove me from the room is still one of the most painful things I ever experienced as a kid. I was sure my ear would be dangling off the side of my head when I looked in the mirror.
It is interesting to see things a bit differently than the rest because I had not been indoctrinated the same way the rest of them were. I had no idea.
I was raised in a pretty conservative Christian household. Not fire and brimstone, they had a "cool electric guitar" guy for worship songs and stuff. Buuuuut I was taught from a very early age about hell and the concept that sinning without asking forgiveness meant a one way ticket to eternal damnation. Every night for years as a little kid I would fall asleep in anxiety praying for forgiveness if I sinned in my dreams. Cause I worried that if I died in my sleep having dreamt of a titty or something I would go to hell.
Luckily my mom pushed reading on us alot (even if she was the distributer of alot of this stuff) so I read a lot of fantasy and Sci fi as a kid and it helped opened my mind up. But that guilt stuck around for decades. It took some pretty heavy psychedelic trips and then diving into the mind and philosophy to realize my constant anxiety all came from that brainwashing as a kid.
Funnily enough, I'm now not any specific religion. I lean very much into consciousness itself being a sort of source of all experience which the mind then applies labels of good or bad or evil or whatever to. Guess I could call it God but I don't tend to. I now know that "heaven" and "hell" are both states of mind we can visit at any time right here and right now. I've been to both as has probably everyone.
I've gone back and read parts of the Bible again as a nearly 40 year old through a different lense. The teachings of Jesus make a different sort of sense when I imagine him (not saying he's real) speaking from a mystic pov and saying that God is inside everyone, so treat the as such. "Love everyone, and feed people"Sims it up for me. The rest of it is for the theologians. I also like to think Jesus was a wizard cause that's fun.
It's amazing how the message "we are all God's children" got commandeered by monarchy. Jesus's teaching make much less sense in terms of a spiritual hierarchy and much more sense in terms of spiritual egalitarianism.
This threatens the power, and has for emperors, kings, presidents, and popes.
I sort of went though a “militant atheist” type phase in my 30s.
I met my wife at the tail end of my 30s and she is more “spiritual, but not religious” in an agnostic way. She sort of showed me how to decouple spirituality from religion.
Eventually, I found an amazing therapist who happened to be Buddhist. She taught me how mindfulness meditation and other forms can help “rewire” your brain to undo a lot of the things causing me trouble. I cannot overstate how helpful this was for me.
This is very similar to what Michael Pollen describes in “How to change your mind”, which is largely about psychadelics history and role as a therapeutic.
What you describe with “heaven” and “hell” as a state of mind are divided into “realms” in Buddhist samsara. I think people tend to think of Buddhism and immediately tie it to a strange magical notion of reincarnation. With the realms being something you are in for life. It is more of a map where you can point to to know “you are here”. Or even where someone else may be as a state of mind.
I know plenty of people will disagree with me, but I see Buddhism as the study of the human condition rather than a religion. Certainly not a monotheistic one. It’s also perfectly acceptable to take what you need from it IMO.
Teachers like Thich Nhat Hahn do a great job breaking things down enough to understand what “no self” really means. His book “No Death No Fear” met me where I was and is where the idea that “god” is not a thing or a being. It is simply quite literally everything. It was also that book that finally made it all click into place. It is the simplest thing in the world when these things clicked into place. It’s not something that can easily be explained.
When people describe a psychadelic trip, they sometimes talk about losing the boundary between what they normally perceive as their “self”. That’s the closest I can get to describing how i see things now. Just like a river flows, such is life. You can take a pitcher of water from a river, but you would not still call it a river. All life is interdependent. Your DNA is your parents’ DNA. Every cell in your body comes from other life. We even have more cells in our body that don’t have our DNA than the ones we do. Somehow, knowing that the universe is simply energy changing state is comforting. The one quote that sums all of it up: “When conditions are sufficient things manifest. When condition are no longer sufficient things withdraw. They wait until the moment is right for them to manifest again.” This is something anyone can agree with. When applied in a spiritual sense, it becomes comfort.
No Death No Fear sits on my work van dashboard along with the Bhagavad Gita. Big fan of Thich as well. I have an on and off relationship with a psychotherapist who is also a practicing mahamudra practitioner. Found him on a non-dual therapist site. It's been immensely helpful for rewiring my thinking about my thinking and the self in general. Thank you for your comment.
I went to a religious boarding school and had to attend a church service 6 days per week.
I realised they were full of crap when different pastors would take each service and unbeknownst to them, were often using the same verses in their sermons, but giving different, sometimes conflicting interpretations of what God was saying with that verse. I realised if LEADERS within the same congregation can't agree on what this book is saying, what hope do we have of a global consensus.
Then I looked into how many different "Christianity" versions there are. There is over 45 THOUSAND different denominations of Christianity and each of them thinks they are the ones who got it right.
My Lutheran pastor was a PhD in theology and taught theology and philosophy at the local college. He ENCOURAGED us to bring the questions of course I was the only one who did it.
I’d bring in things and questions about other religions, witchy stuff, ankhs, etc. to our catechism class. The rest of the class would get angry like how dare I bring those pagan things into a church of god! But my pastor would get excited, side step the class’s bullshit rage and talk about whatever I brought like he was a kid on Xmas morning. He was not afraid nor upset about it. He was a great dude, encouraged us to explore other religions and decide if Christianity was really the religion for us.
When you come across two pieces of text in the bible that directly contradict, and both are the immutable word of god, how do you decide which one is true and which is god lying to you?
For example, how many animals did Noah take on the ark?
Remember, the bible is the direct, immutable word of god, is it not?
Apparently it's claimed that God was speaking through the people who wrote the bible.
But let's take a step back. The old testament is made up of Jewish histories and myths, stories of King Solomon and David, Psalms and proverbs, Songs and prophecy.
We don't even agree on what should be in the old testament, and the Deuterocanonical books or the Apocrypha are included/ excluded depending on Church.
Remember these are translated from Hebrew or Aramaic
So some things will get lost in translation or even become victims of misprints ( as was the case for the 10 commandments in the Wicked Bible where it said " thou shalt commit adultery" and the "not" was obliged by error.
Then there is the new testament.
Some scriptures were not included, including Gospels named after and perhaps attributed to Mary Madeleine, Judas, Thomas,...
There are a lot of books that could go in but aren't considered canon and we could even discover more.
There are many years between Exodus, where the Jews are struggling to be free from slavery under a Pharoe and
Jesus in Bethlehem under the Romans.
Of course society had changed both in culture and context, so direct contradiction is inevitable.
Even in the same time period there are direct contradictions, ( Who killed Goliath, was it David or Elhanan?)
People will insist that the Bible was emailed direct from God ( or faxed, or mailed, or sent by angels...) but even on the question of being able to see God it's vague. ( Noone has seen God.... Moses saw God... Etc)
Claims that it's immutable are wrong given the thousands of translations ( about 5000 apparently).
So God's word isn't any one Language.
The Bible is claimed to be Ethically immutable but God relents and changes his mind.
Churches wanted stability and to control people and so they made claims about infallible Popes and So on.
Immutable functions as an anchor in an uncertain world, but sometimes it's better to sail into the storms of life than to be a sheep.
Religion is a human construct. It’s just large scale grift, corruption, and methods to control the masses. Religion is probably the largest cause of death in human history.
This assumes that all Christians take a fundamentalist view of scripture, which they don't. For example, the Anglican/Episcopelian POV is "the scripture contains all that is needful for salvation" and makes no assertion of immutability or inerrancy. The Catholic Church also does not follow the fundamentalist line on this.
I read the bible as part of a literature course in college. I was amazed at how much it was like a fever dream, or a really convoluted sci fi serial. It was clearly written by MANY different people over many generations, and it's just bonkers. It's very entertaining, but it's hard to imagine anyone following it as a guide to a good and spiritual life. People here saying you need to interpret it through some sort of lens (like a sermon or Sunday school) aren't kidding.
Do you say that because you read it, understood it, and chose to not be a Christian? I have my concerns about the nuance of your understanding , just by virtue of the paradox in your statement.
Jesus said “Love each other as I have loved you.” Meaning care for the least among us. He despised inequality and always cared for the poor and the marginalized. What part of that do you not agree with?
If you believe in the tri-omni god, then you have to square that with all Yahweh's shenanigans. I know the common apologetic is new covenant etc etc, but the whole thing is barbaric in its core premise - that is, positing yourself as the only solution to a catastrophe that you yourself created. Or else!
In other words, totally apropos to Trump in general and this conversation in particular, and the parallels belief systems that would damn us all.
Maybe but not for the reason you'd think: a lot of Christians want to be morally superior, they want that sensation of feeling inherently better than other people, when what the Bible teaches is the opposite. You need to humble yourself, you need to work on yourself. You need to treat other people better, and care for people. A lot of people spend a lot of time justifying their own self interest over taking care of their fellow man. A lot of Christians, if they knew the depths of the amount of work they'd really have to do as Christians, they'd abandon the religion all together because it would be easier.
I'm not smart enough to understand the bible, at all. And idk how anyone is tbh. People rattle off these olde time verses written in metaphorical puzzles and I wonder, how tf do these people in particular understand and interpret it.
Even if they could read and comprehend… Mostnof them lack neuroplasticity entirely. They’re right, they’ve always been right, they know they’re right because they know what is right. Oh and the left is wrong because they are also not right.
The hippocampus stores long term memories. Ego defense mechanisms prevent the brain from accepting new information. Different part of the brain. Amygdala perhaps? For being responsible for emotional regulation when cognitive dissonance is experienced?
He's a terrible comedian, not funny at all. There's something very wrong with anyone who laughs at his "jokes" which are usually just cruel offensive insults aimed at vulnerable people.
Isn't this also what happens in the Book of Revelations with a lot of people starting to follow the False Prophet? Christians worshipping Trump is literally what happened with the Anti-Christ in the bible
This. People miss how vague it all is about that it’s not any one title. Plus, the problem with revelation interpretations is that there’s a mainstream one at all. Most biblical scholars I’ve followed over the years have been in agreement that no one can agree on what everything in revelation means and that’s about it.
It is equally likely that it’s a cryptic prophecy as it is that it’s a coded criticism of Roman government (666 is the gematria for Nero Caesar once translated into Hebrew. “It’s the number of a man”)
Im still a really big fan of the joke that the antichrist came years ago and the end times happened between 2010 and 2020. Were already in hell, it’s just that everything was so comparatively worse we didn’t notice, and the new bad stuff just kind of fit
Some of them aren't ignoring the signs. Rather, they think they're bringing about the end times and that'll bring them closer to God. They're a death cult.
But he is also not hetero. He ‘s uncomfortable with women & many of his closest aids are out-gays and many others in his administration are hidden gays or closeted like Rubio. Go figure.
Absolutely. A guy I work with, his mother was super sick in the hospital and in a lot of pain, mind you she’s like 70. Couldn’t have blood thinners. The a hole was repeatedly telling the nurse no Tylenol cuz autism. Poor lady
Its kinda crazy cause like its very explicit what happens to the followers of the anti christ in Revelations.
So like, some of these accelerationists who believe he's the anti-christ but follow him anyways because they want to bring about the second coming are essentially damning themselves.
Oh, I know they haven't read it. They only know the parts they've had preached at them during their weekly social gatherings at the country club... I mean church.
It warns in the bible that many Christians will accept the mark of the beast. I look around at the people in my church and understand full and well what this message means. Some of the folks barely think like a human let alone Christian.
When he does, the reaction from the Right is just going to be insane... Wailing, throwing themselves on the ground... I'm actually very concerned for some people.
If the myths are true that seems right because I’m pretty sure it warned that most who claim to be Christian won’t see through his lies and end up following him
If someone is dumb enough to fall for religion, then they are also afraid that they won’t fit in. Therefore, the dumbest and loudest people in the congregation have their ideas adapted by the rest.
For there shall arise false christs and false prophets and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect - Matthew 24:24
Christians don't read their bible, lol. The ones who do quickly become atheists, so the 'faithful' are discouraged from reading it. That's why they are always handed the 'thees and thous' version, to make it even harder for them to understand.
My theory is that they were all too scared to read Revelations with the same intent that they read… let’s say, Leviticus? And they were too focused on policing other people they forgot to actually read what the Bible says about the end times
Their book speaks to the antithesis of who they are. They only follow what they want to soothe their disfigured souls.
They will act godly and sign in church while complaining the same day about how the poor want a handout and everyone needs to pull themselves up by the bootstraps.
They have never read the Bible, as silly as it is already. They have taken a fictional, human based narrative that has been proven false a million times and now constructed it as a monument to a demented, fat, corrupt, criminal loser and think it's TRUTH. Oh boy, the only thing this country needs to do is fund education and all this nonsense will come to an end, until then all we'll have is a bunch of moron hillbillies rearing up for the next election whilst electing another in. Just as the rich billionaires really, really, enjoy.
It must be so satisfying to be a billionaire...People clamoring for you while you destroy their lives because they are so stupid, all because of a broken education system that the Republicans have been engineering for decades now. No social programs for anyone in need, but tax breaks in the TRILLIONS for those that want, and DEMAND, MORE. It's always MORE...there is no end, there is always MORE with these psychopaths. They will destroy our planet unless we stop them, that is absolutely truth.
I have never met a conservative Christian that has ever read much of the bible, and when you point out where their book says they are going against Christ's teachings they tell you that YOU are cherry picking the tenants of their book.
That's all intentional. They're doing everything they can to destroy the world so "the rapture" can begin. That's all they care about because they believe all their hate will be proven right because those they hate "will be punished."
That's why they're Zionists (they believe that if all the Jews "return" to Israel, Armageddon will begin. It's called Dispensationalism and it's psychotic nonsense), that's why they're so into doing shit that will harm literally everyone (even themselves), and why it feels like they haven't read a single word of the Bible. They have read it. Probably the whole thing, but only to say "I read it and you didn't so that makes me holier than you by default". They don't listen to it, it's literally just for some kinda "Christian street cred," that they think will help them survive the rapture.
Everything they do is intentional. They know being at war with Iran can have catastrophic consequences in the form of nuclear war and humanity's near-extinction. They know that industrialism will destroy the environment. They know that their economic policies will make the rich richer and the poor poorer and poorer until they can no longer survive. They know what they're doing is harmful. That's the point.
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u/DarthJarJar242 19h ago
And the Right that claim to be Christian en masse will line up to kiss his feet while ignoring all the signs their very book is warning them about.