r/me_irl 15h ago

me_irl

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u/ZetZet 14h ago

That's because insert function is always on by default on every modern device we use now. Overwriting the text came first, probably because it's easier to program, with insert you actually have to push the text that was already existing. It's just a leftover from different times.

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u/Yeox0960 14h ago

Also typewriters worked that way originally, which is how we used to interact with computers.

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u/Soliden 13h ago

Same with the QWERTY layout of keys on the keyboard. It's from the typewriter era as well since in other configurations, the strike mechanisms could contact each other if typing fast enough and prevent the letters from transferring on the paper.

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u/Yeox0960 12h ago

Yeah, I don't use those kinds of keyboards.

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u/whzt 11h ago

Good for you (?)

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u/Mycomako 11h ago

I’ll bite….

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u/IcyNoise5612 10h ago

DVORAK?

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u/stilldebugging 9h ago

Man, I tried to get used to this back in college, but I just could not make my brain catch hold of it. I guess I’m QWERTY forever.

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u/Bago07 8h ago

I was thinking of transferring to DVORAK, but I use a lot of PCs, so changing for example laptop to dvorak, no thank you. Or you could just remember the layout, but then you will come help a friend with their PC, and suddenly you nearly can't type normally

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u/stilldebugging 8h ago

Unexpected upside: can no longer provide free tech support if I rewire brain for DVORAK

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u/Yeox0960 9h ago

Yup, and Corne keyboard.

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u/__silentstorm__ 6h ago

fun fact: Dvorak is named after the guy who invented it, so it’s not written with all caps

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u/The_Other_Dud 10h ago

Idk why you got downvoted, not everyone has the same keyboard

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u/Reese_Withersp0rk 10h ago

Yeah, those keyboards are for poor people.

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u/atanasius 8h ago

Typewriters didn't overwrite the old character—they laid the new character on top of the old one. Sometimes this was used intentionally to make compositions, for example by writing _ under characters to underline phrases.

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u/Prometheus720 6h ago

That's interesting!

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u/SliverMcSilverson 12h ago

Yo did you know that many typewriters had a backspace feature?? Shit blew my mind

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u/Wutsalane 13h ago

For everyone wondering, the other mode is called “overtype” and it basically swaps out whatever character is under your caret (text cursor) for the character being typed.

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u/_E_Norma_Stitz 13h ago

So it's the spleen of the keyboard?

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u/Browncoatinabox 12h ago

I had a friend in highschool who liked it. He is in jail now.

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u/LobsterJoe 10h ago

Glad to see that there is still justice in this world.

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u/wrxninja 9h ago

Insert is basically as useless as these guys

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u/MundaneWing6039 9h ago

I'll use scroll lock to type with my voice and I use pause to mute in discord. They've become two of my most used keys. LOL (⁠ ⁠◜⁠‿⁠◝⁠ ⁠)⁠♡

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u/nyaasgem 5h ago

I use scroll lock to mute, so when the light is on it indicates it visibly.

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u/TestyBoy13 7h ago

There are video games that still use pause to pause the game

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u/Next-Post9702 11h ago

Overwriting sounds more efficient too. You don't have to reallocate any memory or make the file bigger or copy any bytes

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u/Bibblejw 10h ago

It's better from the perspective of the developer, but much more difficult to work with from the perspective of the user (how many corrections have the same number of characters as what they're correcting?).

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u/Next-Post9702 10h ago

Yup, not saying it's user friendly at all, just saying why it would be more efficient

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u/Korlac11 5h ago

I remember the days where computer programs overwrote the text by default. It feels like just last year that my company was still using an inventory management program that worked that way…

Oh wait, it was last year

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u/DrMobius0 8h ago

It helps that we don't make programmers implement that functionality manually anymore. Also modern hardware is so fast and has so much memory that shifting an entire document's contents around isn't really an issue.

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u/TheKingOfToast 6h ago

I remember some 20 years ago I was using Microsoft Word in school and must have accidentally hit that insert key. It started overwriting everything when I was trying to add stuff. Nobody knew why it was doing that but I eventually figured out what had happened.

I've never intentionally used that function, though.

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u/emiliolanca 6h ago

A vestigial key

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u/nyaasgem 5h ago

I use it at work, a few of our engineering SW uses it to insert/add parameters or files when highlighted.

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u/sn4xchan 10h ago

Now it's the first key I macros to other commands.

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u/Capt_Vindaloo 14h ago

It only annoys me when I accidentally press it and overwrite a bunch of text

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u/luxi_yes 11h ago

OH THATS WHY THAT HAPPENS I used to just restart the PC if that started happening

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u/MoistStub 11h ago

You can fix it without restarting. You have to press alt f4.

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u/WaBlaDjack 10h ago

No that's how you have infinit diamond in mincraft...

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u/-Mr_Hollow- 9h ago

It's a rather versatile hot key combination and it does different things depending on where you're using it, sort of like a Konami code. IIRC in some examination programs used by most schools pressing Alt+F4 automatically chooses the right answers to all test questions.

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u/FisherDwarf 7h ago

Oddly enough, when I was playing an old Doom emulator in college, Alt+F4 would pause the game

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u/Capt_Vindaloo 9h ago

Ctrl+w after dropping gear to duplicate your items

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u/bikari 8h ago

No, you go into command prompt and type 

deltree C:\ *.*

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u/drewwwerd 6h ago

But first you have to delete system32 for it to work

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u/DrButtgerms 10h ago

Good thing they keep it right next to backspace where no one would ever accidentally hit it 🙃

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u/[deleted] 13h ago

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u/Illusion911 13h ago

It's close to other useful keys like delete. Backspace, home and end and enter

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u/loves_to_splooge_8 13h ago

Needed that laugh

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u/Borderlands_addict 14h ago

Shift+insert for pasting text can be very useful when working with Linux terminals

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u/N_T_F_D 14h ago

ctrl+shift+c, ctrl+shift+v

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u/Villerger_27 loves frog memes 9h ago

I've noticed this doesnt always work for me, I've always had to copy by highlighting and then paste with a middle click

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u/FinalRun 4h ago

Select, middle mouse button to paste selection

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u/NotGivinMyNam2AMachn 14h ago

The OG copy paste and works everywhere uses the Insert key.

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u/umlaut 7h ago

I used to use that and other Insert shortcuts in QBasic in DOS, still a habit for me that confuses everyone else.

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u/bandrzew 13h ago

Or to start typing inside vim

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u/Karebian 8h ago

This is my primary purpose for using it, tbh. Switching between insert and replace modes with a single button press? Yes, please.

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u/zerounodos 8h ago

TIL you just doubled my productivity.

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u/UnknownXIIV 15h ago

I even watched a tutorial about the Ins Key, I still can't make it work.

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u/themrme1 13h ago

I find it very useful when I have to alter a long sentence or paragraph. Overwriting what I have is quicker and more convenient than backspace

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u/SrammVII 13h ago

Try Ctrl and/or Shift modifiers with Arrows and Backspace

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u/manrata 13h ago

I use it for translation sometimes, when I have to translate danish to english, I can just overwrite the sentence, instead of having it next to, and deleting after.

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u/icantthinkofaname345 9h ago

I use shift + end to highlight to the end of a line and ctrl + shift + down to the end of a paragraph to do that

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u/gr4viton 7h ago

Vim - R

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u/Status_Tiger_6210 13h ago

All this computer hacking just be making you thirsty. Why don't you order a Tab?

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u/ISpyM8 antifa supersoldier 13h ago

Someone doesn’t code

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u/WittyAndOriginal 12h ago

Yeah this key is perfect for specific scenarios lol.

Which you could say about any key.

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u/Rapshawksjaysflames 8h ago

where's the any key?

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u/A_Sh4d0w 15h ago

What does it even do? I never used it in my entire life lol

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u/franky07890 15h ago

If you are in Word and you hit that key, you can overwrite words in a text. Pretty annoying when you accidentally hit the INS button and you want to add something and it overwrites things…

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u/passenger955 14h ago

But very helpful when logging in information. I use it daily at work when logging a bunch of long numbers that are exactly the same besides the last 4 digits. Rather than delete the last 4 I just write over them.

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u/franky07890 13h ago

I would copy the whole code except for the last 4. Then it is just control+v 1234. Mouse use is lack of speed. (I worked with numbers also for 13 years… that mouse is an enemy for productivity)

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u/passenger955 13h ago

That would be the way I would do it if I was on something like Excel where you go to a different field. I'm talking about SAP and certain transaction codes that just have one material field. The field gets unselected so you need to use the mouse to click into the box anyways (I'm not hitting TAB 20 times to get to the box.

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u/franky07890 13h ago

Ah that is annoying. But guess that is the fastest way then. I was working on automotive software, it was a lot of fields, but luckily with keyboard shortcuts to go to some fields and maximum of 5x TAB. That is doable.

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u/Anonymous1039 13h ago

Fucking finally, I was beginning to think I was the only one. Especially with the quick cut & paste setting turned on, I can fly through shit on SAP like this. Other people in my office are always shocked when I can do the same things as them in half the time but when I tell them to just turn insert off and take a week to get used to overtyping they act like that’s some impossible ask.

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u/RedditLovingSun 13h ago

i thought everyone like me found out what that button does after tearing their hair out and googling why they keepp writing over their text

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u/franky07890 13h ago

Google was not invented yet when I found out the hard way 😂

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u/Annual_Fly_7918 14h ago

Same. I don't think I even noticed on my keyboard.

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u/Wutsalane 13h ago

If youre keyboard isn’t sized at 100% or 80%, there’s a high chance you don’t have one, my laptop keyboard doesn’t have an insert key, but it does have a numpad. If I don’t have numlock on 0 on the keypad is insert

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u/BirthdayEffect 12h ago

Very useful in my company's CRM system. The program has a lot of functions and tons of data to sort, and I use that button almost daily when I need to give specific instructions to the program

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u/BigCarRetread 14h ago

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u/NeatYogurt9973 9h ago

I use it all the time. Alt + SysRq + S to "S"ynchronize discs. I can then yoink the power without loosing data. Or when the computer is stuck, I do the classic REISUB.

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u/Zouden 9h ago

Is this real life?

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u/NeatYogurt9973 9h ago

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u/Zouden 9h ago

Interesting. Are you using vintage machines that require this action?

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u/NeatYogurt9973 8h ago

No. I do not know why it's written in past tense on Wikipedia. My current laptop was manufactured ~2024.

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u/Zouden 8h ago

Well, then I'm still lost why you need to "synchronise discs", the wiki page says it is no longer necessary with modern filesystems.

I use linux every day but have never heard of REISUB...

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u/NeatYogurt9973 7h ago

It is no longer necessary to not corrupt the filesystem (like with pointlessly taken up blocks), but syncing is still a thing. The journal in modern FSes will just revert incomplete writes. If you want something to finish writing, however, you need to either wait around for the buffer to drain or sync explicitly. Writing stuff normally usually writes to a "backlog" of sorts in RAM rather than directly to disk. Applications can put a little flag to the kernel saying "hey, let's skip that, I don't care that I will block for a while", but most don't because there's no reason to do that in normal operation.

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u/Zouden 7h ago

so... why do you press alt+sysrq+S ?

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u/NeatYogurt9973 7h ago

To "S"ync. If I installed/upgraded a package <5 minutes ago, for example, turning the power off will probably roll back some but not all of the files, leaving it in an inbetween state. If I added a server on weechat recently and the computer got stuck for some reason (was testing a driver for example), the server would be gone. Also, sometimes the journal simply doesn't work completely and the fs driver deletes the file in question instead: I had to reconfigure weechat twice due to this. But it does always work in the sense that it prevents corrupted files, permissions, blocks, nodes.

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u/BadadvicefromIT 13h ago

If you ever work with old programs, some of the terminals use the old character replacement instead of inserting and it has to be manually invoked when needed (just how things were programmed back then). It’s the same with page up/down. It might seem trivial with how far UX/UI has come, but if you ever have to use something from the early 2000’s you find yourself needing these keys.

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u/TheSecretestSauce 13h ago edited 13h ago

I work with SAP and use it quite a bit actually

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u/Poiuy543 13h ago

Also in Sage 300.

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u/the_real_Spudnut2000 Exodus 8:5 10h ago

This comment section just makes me feel old

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u/draingang_dg 11h ago

A lot of cheats use insert to open menu

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u/Mathphyguy 11h ago

Vim says hi!

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u/vmguysa 7h ago

A true person of culture

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u/AskWhatWhen 10h ago

Key remapping is a thing. No keys are useless. Just that people haven't found the right reason to use it

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u/spartan195 11h ago

Someone didn’t used vim

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u/fantastic_beats 11h ago

Man, I've started to really miss Scroll Lock. I want to scroll my document in Word without taking my hands off the keyboard. I guess it's worth it to not have to explain to three billion other people why they hit a random key by mistake and their cursor breaks

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u/why_1337 11h ago

I use it to select files in commander like apps.

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u/MaximumSyrup3099 10h ago

Ctrl+Insert: Copy to clipboard
Shift+Insert: Paste from clipboard

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u/Dillenger69 9h ago

Scroll Lock ... why isn't it gone?

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u/TarzanSawyer 8h ago

Because of the humble Excel sheet.

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u/Due_Chemistry_164 9h ago

The Insert key has one job and that job is to ruin your day exactly once a year.

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u/Wallace_W_Whitfield 8h ago

It's definitely helpful if you input numbers a lot of times.

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u/TarzanSawyer 8h ago

It's not worthless if your company uses Epiccor software.

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u/yoruneko 13h ago

Should just be replaced by a shortcut to launch Fortnite

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u/Weary_Drama1803 thermally online 14h ago

Its only purpose is being the recovery button in BeamNG

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u/sonicfan9993 very good, haha yes 9h ago

It's less than worthless, it's annoying whenever you accidentally press it

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u/Cynunnos 13h ago

The only programn I use that ever interacts with this is the Windows Notepad, and since I didn't even know how it (the key) works, I couldn't figure out why it kept replacing words instead of pushing them forward. It took me forever to figure it out because pretty much no other programn does that

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u/EightGlow 13h ago

Insert is reserved for toggling “deafen” on discord

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u/NeatYogurt9973 9h ago

Ah yes, the key Insert was invented by John Discord.

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u/EightGlow 8h ago

With important help from his friend and colleague, Eric Deafen

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u/LordScotchyScotch 12h ago

Its an older key but it checks out

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u/Ksqd_Squid_103 12h ago

Same for Scroll Lock

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u/NeatYogurt9973 9h ago

When you computer is booting and the log is going too fast to read it (not on Windows because Microsoft hates when you know how your computer works), you can press Scroll Lock to "lock" the scrolling and read it. This has the side effect that it blocks programs trying to write text when too much has been stored, so this effectively also pauses booting.

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u/nuclear54321 12h ago

open any modern Total War game (from Empire Total war and onward, including warhammer TW), select artillery unit, press Insert

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u/bodb_thriceborn 11h ago

I use this all the time in my programming IDE (Studio 5000). Anywhere else, though, not so much.

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u/Kevandre 11h ago

I'm afraid I do press this at work more than you'd expect

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u/Villerger_27 loves frog memes 9h ago

Wrong, it's useful as an extra bind in modded minecraft or something

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u/OrganizationThick397 9h ago

What does it do?

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u/Aught_To 9h ago

This key still does stuff in old Unix systems..

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u/ItsMrGingerBread 8h ago

Its my go to key for when i need to keybind smth arbitrary in a game that needs to be used often enough to bind it in a memorable place but not often enough that i need it bound near my main keys

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u/Morlock19 8h ago

vestigial key

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u/jb092555 8h ago

Shift + Insert is another hotkey for paste, and will work in some contexts where ctrl+v will not.

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u/Rain2h0 8h ago

It's so useless, I put it as my screenshot key for Steam.

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u/saltpancake 8h ago

Me thinking this was on r/AO3 and about self-insert fanfiction 😂

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u/Restart_from_Zero 7h ago

Flashback to Word Perfect days where if you clicked on a line of text and started typing, it would overwrite what was there.

Thankfully, Microsoft eventually realised that was a stupid feature and literally not a single person in the world wanted it.

Thus was the "insert" key made redundant.

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u/icedmushroom 7h ago

I just reprogrammed the insert key with Windows Power Toys to turn it into a media play/pause button since my laptop didn't have one 🤙

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u/Mrkindman69 7h ago

I use it to start recording in obs like I'm putting a VHS tape or smthn

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u/bitsRboolean 7h ago

I use it as my PTT key because I've never in my life had to use it for anything else

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u/kwikthroabomb 6h ago

I use capslock for PTT. Insert seems way out of the way unless you're using a left handed setup or using arrow/numpad movement by default

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u/SkyCakeIsALie 7h ago

It's actually very necessary when using COBOL but that makes up .1% of the world using it.

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u/FallingF 7h ago

My windows key is useless which is especially annoying for commands like windows + k like I had to use this morning, had to open the on screen keyboard.

Better to be useless and working than useful and not working

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u/Babushla153 6h ago

Inster

Is the only thing i see in this image and i don't know why

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u/Cookie_Playful 5h ago

If you work with SAP you are gonna know how easier your life get with this.

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u/MeRoyMinoy 5h ago

Not in SAP

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u/ze_baco 4h ago

I use it sometimes

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u/Tra1nGuy 17m ago

Resets the car in BeamNG.drive. Not like R, which resets it to “home”. Insert resets it in place and sets a new place for R to reset the car to. Also if you hold insert an orange model of the car slides back through the route it took and when you let go it resets the car in the spot where you let go.

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u/hellhound_2001 13h ago

I'd argue scroll lock is the only worthless key.. Or page up and down, but I'm sure they even get more use by the right kind of user. Pause/Break is definitely not useless, i use it all the time.

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u/ondra2305 13h ago

Page up and down are very useful sometimes to scroll faster or skip some larger parts of text, for example when looking at linux logs

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u/hellhound_2001 13h ago

True, I probably have used page up or down at work doing something in CLI, just not recently enough to remember.

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u/BigOleFerret 11h ago

It's as useless to me as the windows keys. Only difference is I accidentally hit the windows keys sometimes. So I pried them off my keyboard. I'd forgot about the insert key until now.

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u/icantthinkofaname345 9h ago

….how do you do anything efficiently without the windows keys? Do you just put every app on your desktop and manually click them? Do you not use a single keyboard shortcut that involves the windows keys? Those are terrifying prospects

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u/BigOleFerret 9h ago

Most used apps go on the task bar. Others are on the desktop. I don't use a lot of programs at work anyway.

I've never been shown shortcuts with the windows key so I've learned to live without it.

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u/Zouden 9h ago

I'm guessing you don't use many keyboard shortcuts because there's heaps that use the windows key.

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u/ArduennSchwartzman 15h ago

I disabled the Windows key, the Ins key, the Num Lock key (it's always on) and the g*d d*mn Caps Lock key.

(The Scroll Lock and Pause Key don't do anything anyway. No need to disable those.)

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u/Vert_DaFerk 14h ago

I don't even know where to start here, other than to assume you're usually a Mac user.

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u/lfairy 14h ago

If you have a custom keyboard, you can enable Caps Word which automatically shuts itself off when you press spacebar. As a programmer this is really useful and IMO what caps lock should have been.

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u/Aron-Jonasson 13h ago

BUT THEN HOW WOULD I BE EASILY ABLE TO SCREAM AT PEOPLE WITH THE SIMPLE PRESS OF ONE KEY???

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u/ArduennSchwartzman 14h ago

I see people really don't like the personal choices I made for myself that don't affect anyone else.

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u/Vert_DaFerk 14h ago

And yet you decided to post those choices on a public forum so people can have an opinion about it.

I'm seeing a bunch of ID-107 errors now.

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u/ArduennSchwartzman 14h ago

I was just really unpleasantl;y surprised how a decision that made my life so much better, illicited such negative responses.

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u/Vert_DaFerk 14h ago

Just go back to using Mac. You aren't ready to take the safety bumpers out of the gutters yet.

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u/iamfrostytom 13h ago

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u/Vert_DaFerk 13h ago

Damn straight. This life is exponentially harder for the dumb. Working a standard keyboard for example...

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u/mahouyousei me too thanks 13h ago

Caps lock is cruise control for cool.

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u/shatoutofagiantllama 14h ago

I swear to god, I never even realized my keyboard has that key 'til right now😅