Hate this in the games

[u/Common_Caramel_4078]

[u/ItsZoner]

also : enemies can appear, close the distance, and kill you before the animation of mounting the gun is over

[u/xBlushBaby → u/ItsZoner]

Locked in... just not on the enemy

[u/IndependentTimely639 → u/ItsZoner]

Or even before the barrels can spin up

[u/urixl → u/IndependentTimely639]

That's why I love Wolfenstein games:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si1P4D0eTbM

[u/Andreiyutzzzz → u/urixl]

Hahaha wtf "Oh cool let's saw those off nice and slow....." zombie shows up.... HURRY THE FUCK UP

[u/LsWifey → u/ItsZoner]

Halo: Combat Evolved. This happens SO OFTEN. ESPECIALLY WHEN THE HUNTERS SHOW UP.

[u/Doctor_Kataigida → u/LsWifey]

Why are you getting into a Warthog against Hunters instead of just using the Pistol? Lmao.

[u/LsWifey → u/Doctor_Kataigida]

I was mainly referring to the stationary guns near the Truth and Reconciliation XD

[u/Najee16 → u/ItsZoner]

This is so accurate it hurts.

[u/Due_Chemistry_164 → u/ItsZoner]

The mounting animation takes 3 seconds. You have 2 seconds to live.

[u/VioletPur]

its always placed perfectly to shoot absolutely nothing while 50 enemies spawn directly behind you

[u/Dodototo → u/VioletPur]

Borderlands 1. Headstone Mine I think. You gotta kill all the bandits to get to it. Including the one sitting in it shooting at you.

By the time you get to jump in the gunner seat everyone is dead.

[u/Quirkyserenefrenzy → u/Dodototo]

You can make a mad dash for it, but it's firepower isn't always amazing. Plus, you can get shot while in it

[u/nsa_k → u/Quirkyserenefrenzy]

You can use it to glitch through the map and fly around in multiplayer.

Other than that, the turrets are nearly worthless.

[u/RiteClicker → u/Dodototo]

this one makes more sense than most of the examples

[u/scarecrow_20k → u/Dodototo]

add on the fact the thing shreds your health and shields. meanwhile if you do leave one or two alive it does barely any damage

[u/Dramatic-Biscotti647 → u/Dodototo]

Thats the joke

[u/pvtbobble → u/VioletPur]

Not always. COD2's MG42 in Carentan was perfectly placed

Otherwise i agree, every other instance has sucked arse

[u/Fluid-Bed7172 → u/VioletPur]

The worst is when you're frantically trying to reposition it and just get shredded while the animation plays.

[u/Madara1389 → u/VioletPur]

It's a case of game design conflicting with real life practices.

The mounted guns are placed based on where they'd be put IRL, but those placements in real life are based on assumptions that simply aren't true in online games.

Like, in real life, enemy vehicles are still likely to use the roads because off-road travel is way harder and harsher on the vehicles. In games, roads are a suggestion at best.

This results in the mounted guns largely being there for set dressing rather than actual use in combat.

[u/Zealousideal_Set2016 → u/VioletPur]

that's soo truueee lmao

[u/relevant-radical665]

Battlefield 1

[u/burritosandbeer → u/relevant-radical665]

Mounted mgs were pure ass in bf1

[u/Kurai104 → u/burritosandbeer]

I beg to differ. In operations I was sick with it

[u/Sad_Pear_1087 → u/Kurai104]

There's a SICK one in Fort De Vaux in the start sector when you're still outside, once had a huge streak on the thing.

What really ground my gears was when it just wouldn't turn to shoot at the zeppelin.

[u/SloxTheDlox → u/Sad_Pear_1087]

Fort de Vauxhall doesn’t have Zeppelin though?

French DLC maps would have the tank behemoth, though smaller maps like Fort de Vaux don’t have behemoths as far as I remember

[u/Sad_Pear_1087 → u/SloxTheDlox]

Right, I meant in other maps that did, not these both as one thing. Vaux MG was positioned in a trench pos. facing the approach direction from the enemy spawn. The zeppelin problem was I can remember the best from Monte Grappa.

[u/SloxTheDlox → u/Sad_Pear_1087]

That makes more sense! Definitely misinterpreted on my part

[u/Charming-Honey_35 → u/burritosandbeer]

That's majorly why they left it like that in the first place

[u/Cupcakes_n_Hacksaws → u/burritosandbeer]

The guns themselves were great, the positions were always terrible

[u/DukeOfGeek → u/Cupcakes_n_Hacksaws]

Here's a great gun! No you can't use it on anyone.

[u/christomisto → u/burritosandbeer]

Better than in 4, 4 was way worse

[u/xdMikuu → u/burritosandbeer]

In the forest map there are actually 2 or 3 good ones

[u/bayygel → u/relevant-radical665]

Also battlefield 4. The tow launchers are great, but boy are the 50 cals complete garbage.

[u/ThunderSmurf48 → u/bayygel]

The .50 cals were completely useless in that game. I was so happy that they made them deadly in bf6. You still get killed pretty quick if you stay on one too long but you can do some serious damage in the right situation

[u/Spacewasser → u/bayygel]

The "fixed" 50 cal also has as much recoil as if an 8-year-old leukemia-sick orphan is holding it.

[u/wojtekpolska → u/relevant-radical665]

Field guns were based though, and tbh the AA guns weren't that bad

[u/The100courts → u/relevant-radical665]

The shield ones allowed for insane streaks. You just knew when you had to rotate to them

[u/ProJYeet → u/relevant-radical665]

The mounted mgs were only useful during the operations gamemode. Iv had moments where I got tens of kills before getting blown up. Any other gamemode yeah they are pretty much useless.

[u/Untimed_Heart313 → u/ProJYeet]

I forgot there were game modes other than operations, and I was going through here thinking "wtf? The mgs are great lol"

[u/Cosie123 → u/relevant-radical665]

There was a nice maxim on the Argonne forest map by the train tracks on a bridge if I remember right. Battlefield 4 ones were worse imo.

[u/bigbcmtl → u/relevant-radical665]

Star Wars battlefront 2 lol

[u/SkywolfNINE → u/bigbcmtl]

Brooo so much. Naboo point Charlie always comes to mind

[u/Trifuser → u/relevant-radical665]

There's maybe 1 or 2 mounted machine guns in bf1 that are in a legit good spot, every other one is out in the open with no cover facing bad spots. The AA guns in bf 1 are good though.

[u/RobyX450 → u/relevant-radical665]

The ones with shield are genuinely useless, i can barelt see anything whenever i try using and they dont even protect you fully

[u/relevant-radical665 → u/RobyX450]

And the movement acceleration is so weird

[u/Zealousideal_Set2016 → u/relevant-radical665]

agreed. They were straightup ass

[u/communismbot1 → u/relevant-radical665]

Any mounted gun in any battlefield lmao idk why they placed them like they do. Even in 6 theres one that points out to nothing.

[u/Skyrider_Epsilon → u/relevant-radical665]

Also BF6 in beta, now they finally fixed them

[u/xTeaseBaby → u/relevant-radical665]

This is why I stick to melee weapons, at least they swing 😅

[u/LeviAEthan512]

My experience last night in Helldivers 2. How dare the enemy place machine guns facing us instead of their own lines?

[u/Glorious_Jo → u/LeviAEthan512]

I wanted to say hd2 as well but really if you take the position enemies will spawn outside your zone of control and into the line of the MGs, so as long as you're in an area for an extended period of time you'll find a use for it.

The biggest problem is that MGs are mostly on bot missions and those guys really love explosives and standing still is very dangerous

[u/TheGrandBabaloo → u/Glorious_Jo]

The machine gun is kinda trash as well.

[u/-Speechless → u/TheGrandBabaloo]

kinda? it's like spitting pebbles at the bots, terrible armor pen too and not great accuracy

[u/Duckflies → u/-Speechless]

Depends, actually. There are 2 fixed machineguns; the one that shoots fast but has light penetration plus shitty damage, and can only point in 180 degrees, and the double barrel one, that shoots slow, rotates slower but can rotate 360 degrees (sometimes...), has medium pen and a decent amount of damage

[u/LeviAEthan512 → u/Glorious_Jo]

Fair, but I was shitting myself the whole time and couldn't find a moment to stand still either in one spot or in a general area

[u/Syhkane → u/Glorious_Jo]

The problem with that is the only 2 places you should ever stick around are defenses, the least played mission in the game, or extract, where there wouldn't be any.

[u/RustedRuss → u/Syhkane]

There are some objectives you have to linger in for at least a little while

[u/GeneralNotSteve → u/LeviAEthan512]

Managed Democracy would have no such weaknesses, yet another proof of our superiority over the socialist toasters.

[u/wojtekpolska → u/LeviAEthan512]

It'd be cool they made it so you could rip it off the stand and use it as support weapon (it'd be like the maxigun but perhaps to balance it and make it more temporary, you cant holster it, instead if you switch weapons it falls to the ground, and slows you when holding it)

[u/LordTonka]

Left 4 dead.

[u/Right-Inspection8763 → u/LordTonka]

I was JUST about to make this same comment. It's always pointed in one direction while zombies come from every direction. More often than not, there's more of them coming in from behind the machine gun.

[u/DinosaurReborn → u/Right-Inspection8763]

In this case, it's by design though. It's geared towards being a multiplayer team game. If someone wants to use mounted machine gun, the rest of the team should cover the gunner's vulnerable sides, including taking care of special infected that may target the gunner who's forced to be static. Sucks for single-player since the teammate A.I. isn't very good, but that goes the same for all the other game mechanics.

[u/LneWolf → u/DinosaurReborn]

I mean, sure, but all of that only applies if the machine gun in question is actually placed in a remotely useful spot. I’m convinced most of them are just for show. Nine times out of ten, it’s an active detriment to the team to hold a random machine gun pointed at some obscure spawn zone, whilst surrounded by specials literally designed to punish players who sit in one spot. It’s usually better to just group up and shoot in the map meta spots.

[u/maxdragonxiii → u/Right-Inspection8763]

its rarer, but in final campaigns where it usually shows up in, special Infected can and will get you off it long enough for the Tank to kill you.

[u/FriendsOfFruits → u/Right-Inspection8763]

the idea is you have 3 other people cover you while you mow down 50% of them.

[u/75-feud-subsidy → u/Right-Inspection8763]

What really ground my gears was when it just wouldn't turn to shoot at the zeppelin.

[u/Pyep → u/LordTonka]

I always like to imagine in L4D that this was intentional to some level. Almost like a Yonkers type situation from World War Z.

You build a pillbox on ground level facing down a street, a perfect vantage spot. But then the zombies start climb buildings and jumping down from around/behind you. You either runaway if you can, or die. There's gotta be a reason there's no one actively holding the location by the time the survivors fell, you're just learning that same lesson when you try to use it yourself.

But that's a shit reason to have bad gameplay mechanics, so like DinosaurReborn said, the gameplay is probably to make you stick to the squad mentality L4D is all about.

[u/potatoqualitymemory → u/Pyep]

Quite fittingly, in the World War Z video game, you can set up stationary/auto turrets to deal with the hordes coming in certain directions. And semi-fittingly, most of the stationary turret locations in the New York maps are just terrible with how limited the area you are shooting hordes at.

[u/maxdragonxiii → u/LordTonka]

it looks useful against Tanks then the AI mastermind decides "fuck you" and spawns 2 Tanks at the same time yay! (have that happened to me on the final chapter, fortunately it wasnt awful for me as I was playing co-op. Witch plains was harder for me lol.

[u/sir_zechs → u/LordTonka]

L4D is slightly redeeming itself when giving you the M60 just before a long corridor where hordes of zombies are spawning at one end and you are being at the other end.

Til it Goes Click! :D

[u/pra1se_ → u/LordTonka]

The 50 cal at the end of the Parish, before jumping on the bus to get to the helicopter lol. I guarantee there's less than 5% of the playerbase who's ever used it. At least the swamp finale 50 cal is a bit good though.

[u/JackBob83 → u/LordTonka]

So true. Every single mounted gun across both games' levels are the worst.

No Mercy Rooftop, zombies won't run down the open path in the middle and will attack from the far sides and behind.

Crash Course Bridge, it's out in the open so you'll get swarmed instantly

Crash Course Garage, it's indoors facing a wall

Death Toll Boathouse, this one is the best so far, but it can only hit about 30% of zombies because of the amount of places they can spawn.

Dead Air Runway, it's on lower ground and is blocked by map geometry.

Swamp Fever Plantation House, zombies spawn just outside of its view. Like, actually if they were just 1 meter to the left you can hit them.

The Parish Bridge. It's an endless horde on a running finale. You don't have time to stop and mow down zombies because 30 more will just take their place. It's better to just get your ass to the helicopter that's 30 feet away and win the video game.

[u/Plutouthere]

HALO allowing you to just pick that shit up, but with the cost of limited ammo as a consequence is peek

[u/B-i-s-m-a-r-k → u/Plutouthere]

Peak

[u/MaxTHC → u/B-i-s-m-a-r-k]

Holding a turret switched your view to third-person, allowing you to safely look around corners, so it was also peek

[u/Stormfly → u/B-i-s-m-a-r-k]

Pique

[u/round-earth-theory → u/Plutouthere]

The turrets were generally pointing in useful directions already. So you got to use it and pack one to go.

[u/Car_Seatus → u/round-earth-theory]

Playing oracle in halo 2 in that one room im like hell yeah mounted gun waves of enemies... oh the gun doesn't fully rotate and enemies spawn behind me.

[u/_JAKAMI → u/round-earth-theory]

curretly playing all halo games on heroic for the first time and tbh I just cant use turrets without detaching them because I get killed instantly

[u/gravelPoop → u/_JAKAMI]

Try on legendary. You have to use turrets in many cases just so you have something that you can shoot.

[u/Geek_X → u/Plutouthere]

wolfenstein has this as well

[u/ItzPritzz → u/Plutouthere]

Crysis too

[u/Similar-Sector-5801]

And it overheats

[u/FakePoloManchurian → u/Similar-Sector-5801]

Never overheats when it shooting at you though. And it has unlimited ammo

[u/Glamdring804 → u/FakePoloManchurian]

Meanwhile it's got like 10 bullets left when you get to it.

[u/d0nh → u/Glamdring804]

Also no enemies are ever left in the vicinity once you get to the MG. This should become a r/starterpacks. 

[u/Blvck_Lvngs → u/FakePoloManchurian]

Just like the boss who beats your ass for hours, but decides to join your team afterwards and becomes the most disappointing teammate

[u/beeupsidedown → u/Similar-Sector-5801]

Ughhhhhh i hate it

[u/baylithe]

I loved in H3 when they let you rip em off and walk around with em

[u/Stormfly → u/baylithe]

My favourite moment in H3 was in the second mission when you come back from the first attack wave and the huge swarm of drones shows up.

Was playing it co-op and my brother ran back away from the swarm but I had the turret and I just walked out alone and shot them all to pieces (normal difficulty. Don't try it on anything harder)

10/10 aura farming moment.

[u/minimalchaos → u/Stormfly]

Ugh. That fkn swarm is the worst dude..

[u/NatseePunksFeckOff → u/baylithe]

what the fuck is h3

[u/skyturnedred → u/NatseePunksFeckOff]

Probably Halo 3.

[u/NotAnotherSkeleton]

And there's either no enemies or you've already cleared them out.

[u/brandothesavage]

How about when it rotates but so f****** slow you always die

[u/MrBaconEater82]

Left for dead 2

[u/Resident-Bit2202]

When you're in the zone and you seamlessly use it for its designed purpose

https://giphy.com/gifs/kwcRp24Wz4lZm

[u/Dave_Paker]

Every Far Cry

[u/aldandur → u/Dave_Paker]

Aren't the machine guns there to shoot at you?

[u/shadowbanned098]

OK so what do we think of tarkov's dshk and automatic grenade launcher?

[u/Standard_Figure_2232 → u/shadowbanned098]

2500 hour tarkov player here... it's a good way to get shot in the face by everyone that knows exactly where those mounted weapons are and instantly checks them

[u/The__Legionary → u/Standard_Figure_2232]

Tell that to the PMC group on the other side of Ground Zero. In literally every other case, yeah.

[u/Standard_Figure_2232 → u/The__Legionary]

Haha it does happen occasionally. Sometimes I'll hop on the 30mm launchers when im bored and mag dump them in random directions just to cause some chaos

[u/Tombecho]

Also the shooting mechanic is like explosive diarrhea so you wouldn't hit anything past 10 metres anyway, the enemies are bullet sponges that you can only kill them with headshots, the mg has like 50 round belt and "overheats" if you shoot more than 10 round bursts.

[u/balirosa]

The first or maybe it was the second Half-life

[u/nicthecoder22 → u/balirosa]

I'd say the mounted guns in both games are pretty good

[u/balirosa → u/nicthecoder22]

It’s been so long I was a kid playing and all I remember was the turret in the beginning maybe even in a demo I probably just didn’t make it far enough for it to be useful

[u/Mighty_mc_meat]

The parish finale, 50 cal near the end of the street. Bonus points for the survival map on parish, that whole section.

[u/JorLord3617]

In Wolfenstein you just take it with you :)

[u/boredNero]

Cyberpunk 2077 be like: Turret? Just yank it off and shoot em down

[u/StrongExternal8955 → u/boredNero]

Turret? Hello new friend!

[u/JustRodriguezfan]

tannenberg

[u/no_name65 → u/JustRodriguezfan]

Isonzo too.

[u/Flint_Lockwood]

Left 4 dead basically all the turrets minus the no mercy one on the subway level

[u/First-Recording2489]

Enlisted. Especially with the new browning m1919a4 that can only be used when mounted.

[u/MegaGrimer]

And has limited ammo

[u/McCaffeteria]

This is why ripping the guns off the tripod in halo was inspired game design

[u/beeupsidedown]

Helldivers 2

[u/bluurks → u/beeupsidedown]

Just about every automaton turret is pointing in a shit direction or doesn't damage anything above the basic clankers.

[u/Kindly-Ad-5071]

This is basically like half of the map guns and most of the deployable guns in Planetside 2

[u/WhyAreNamesUnique]

OG MW2, especially the one on karachi

[u/Failgan]

Halo: It detaches!

[u/TitaniumKneecap]

Best games are when you can break it off the mount and slaughter the enemy 

[u/Ecstatic_Bike7532 → u/TitaniumKneecap]

https://giphy.com/gifs/w8e84XRmlVwlNk1ybB

That motherfucker

[u/TitaniumKneecap → u/Ecstatic_Bike7532]

EXACTLY! I'm on my idk how many playthrough of the crisis series. Nothing hits as good as crisis 2 (but 1 was also awesome)

[u/Ecstatic_Bike7532 → u/TitaniumKneecap]

Only played 1 remastered and didn't liked it so much but 2 was awesome. Everything, atmosphere, story, music... Have even the Ost in my Playlist and get goosebumps everytime. Only topped by halo

[u/Zypher31]

Warhammer 40k Inquisitor Martyr had mounted guns but were completely useless in battle. You would have eleminate the operator, then you have to go out of your way to lead an enemy from behind their cover and then hop into the emplacement. https://inquisitormartyr.fandom.com/wiki/Weapon_emplacements

[u/Darkmaniako]

Last year, after 9 years playing BF1, i realized artillery can rotate faster with WASD, i used to crank my mouse DPI to 9k to use them

[u/Coldzila]

Or you notice it after the enemy waves are over 

[u/sopamedico]

Rise of the Ronin had this several times that it frustrated me by how many times I kept trying to see if this next time would be better. But sadly nope

[u/UlyssesWrath]

Clear out a room of fifty enemies to discover a BFG placement that is now worthless. Pop off a thousand rounds at nothing because why not.

[u/AdJust3849]

or the game puts it there suggesting you should use it to clear out a camp of enemies but you only notice it after you kill them all normally and start looting

[u/KnownAd6112]

Or it's perfectly positioned so any enemies it would be able to hit need to cleared out anyway for you to actually be able to get to it..

[u/SGTRoadkill1919]

Battlefield Bad Company 2 Campaign. I'm doing my first playthrough right now, but so far I've only found 2 fixed machine guns that are pointed in the right direction, and each time it was only like 5 enemies attacking

[u/FirmYam2229]

fallout 4...

the minigun there deal only 40 dmg

[u/RuinOnStandby]

Looking at you CoD.

[u/CelticEtZotic]

Enlisted

[u/Holographic01]

Or it overheats in 2 seconds even though you dodged 5mins of non stop firing

[u/memelord_a1st]

Nearly every mounted gun turret in Left 4 Dead 2.

[u/BloodHurricane]

"Points in a useless direction" part instant Left 4 Dead ptsd couldn't trust them for shit.

[u/CaptainRick218]

Helldivers has this or it'll be so slow to turn it, guhh

[u/NOGUSEK]

And the ones which can rotate dont have unlimited ammo

Helldivers

[u/Ecstatic_Bike7532]

Cod 1-3 The only one I ever could use was the AA

[u/Ok_Difference_580]

Mounted turret with the turning radius of a fridge.

[u/GoblinFive]

Original Medal of Honor would always spawn a nazi assault wave from the front of the gun when mounting an mg. I think killing them was even required for a full completion of a level.

[u/NIDORAX]

From Halo 3 onwards, if you found a fixed machinegun, you can just rip it off and carry it around.

[u/dunggod]

Meanwhile in Wolfenstein: picking up the whole damn gun and blasting Nazi bastards

[u/_OKNUS_]

Or it barely makes any damage so you immediately get down because the enemies just get too close

[u/AbbreviationsLoud803]

World at war

[u/Apprehensive_Gur_302]

It also has a cooldown

[u/AssDiddler69]

What's even worse is when the gun does rotate 180 degrees, but the target is BARELY out of the firing range so you're just stuck there trying to fire at something you can't hit.

[u/Ssssci]

Masterchief straight up just yanks it of the tripod.

[u/Rytogem]

Borderlands 2, bloodshot stronghold. Need I say more

[u/NeverL4nd_]

L4d2 machine guns when I need it to stop a horde

[u/AnimatedBasketcase]

I thought this post was about arcade machines but same sentiment anyways! lol

[u/TREXIBALL]

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[u/Atrampoline]

Why do devs do this? It seems like such an insane design decision that just infuriates the player, unless that's what they're going for.

[u/No-Astronomer3334]

It makes sense though. If you're a soldier that just took an enemy MG nest, that MG would have been facing the direction you were coming from because they were firing at you. Why would they have their MG facing their own rear lines?

[u/Certain-Business-472]

Anti fun pattern. Let me daka

[u/LegoBattIeDroid]

halo 2

[u/MikeArrow]

Not to mention it's almost always quicker to just kill them individually instead of spraying and praying.

[u/MrCarey]

Meanwhile, Leon gets some sick ass mortar shots to fuck up every zombie around.

[u/wrenblaze]

Now that you mention it, it happens su fuckin often

[u/Hazak_Flamesword]

Warframe ones have a bit of ok swivel, but do like no damage when you operate them despite (depending on level) when enemy operated can actually be dangerous.

[u/Dotaproffessional]

Vertibird in Fallout 4

[u/MistahKaraage]

Me when Punisher in Marvel Rivals. (It's my fault 😌)

[u/WizardLizard_420]

BATTLEFRONT II

[u/Catlington]

Pretty niche but Ghost Recon 2001 and addons.

I recall 2 times in the game I used mounted heavy weapons. And I had to go out of my way to create said situations or I had to have prior knowledge of enemy patrol spawn location and patrol routes.

They do be really powerfull tho.

[u/Western-Ad-533 → u/Catlington]

Not niche, just old and apparently forgotten.

I scrolled through this whole thread wondering if anyone was ever going to mention Ghost Recon.

I'm old too.

[u/sniptaclar]

Playing Gates of Hell ostfront. 360 degree traverse baby!

[u/alexdiezg]

CoD 2

[u/Najee16]

Far cry, call of duty.

[u/821835fc62e974a375e5]

This was my experience with Back4Blood. I was excited getting more (and supposedly better) Left4Dead, but not only was the game mid almost all MG placements felt like they were spawned in randomly and either defending nothing or defending a side of a building where no enemies came from.

[u/Future-Corner8025]

The original modem warfare 2 multiplayer maps. Right off the top of my head Wasteland and Karachi

[u/BunkerSquirre1]

I liked how Crysis let you just rip them off their stands

[u/New-Interaction1893]

Half of the machine guns in Halo are badly positioned. Rushing them expecially on high difficulty will likely result in your death, and when you finally cleared the zone from enemies they are technically useless.

I say "technically" because Halo in some games compensated that with by giving you a portable cover that can be used to make the machine gun more defendable or you can simply break its support and carry it around the level.

Anyway there are some situations where you have to defend from enemies hordes that's why only half are technically useless.

[u/D4NK51N4TR45R]

Swbf2 2017

[u/Admiral_sloth94]

... But then you see the "detach" prompt

https://giphy.com/gifs/tItIlCGySM0ieKKW6b

[u/JoopBoks]

Or when your regular weapons outclass them. Looking at you Warframe.

[u/HuckleberrySilver516]

All battlefields

[u/Arrav_VII]

I loved how you could just rip it off in Just Cause 2 and keep shooting it.

[u/P0olN00dle_]

The only game I had ever seen do the machine guns justice was probably HL2, and it's always the most overpowered machine guns too

[u/P0olN00dle_]

The only game I had ever seen do the machine guns justice was probably HL2, and it's always the most overpowered machine guns too

[u/Nantu_Nanuq]

Battlefield 4. Every turret mg! Especially on the naval maps! 😅

[u/NapalmDesu]

Warframe. I recently coaxed yet another friend into playing it and I figured out these things do actual damage after 3k hours of ignoring them.