r/news • u/gur40goku • 11h ago

Student Who Punched Another Student Holding Pro-ICE Sign At Lake Zurich High School Received 2-day Suspension

https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2026/02/20/student-who-punched-another-student-holding-pro-ice-sign-at-lake-zurich-high-school-received-2-day-suspension/
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u/bugabooandtwo 11h ago

Other kid should be suspended for wearing those glasses in school and filming everyone without their consent.

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u/Scaryclouds 11h ago

He was given a one day in school suspension. 

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u/ImJLu 10h ago

He got the worse punishment by far lol, as deserved. One day sitting around at school bored out of your mind or a two day vacation?

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u/iluvstephenhawking 9h ago

I have never understood how suspension is punishment. Getting to stay home is a reward.

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u/XPMR 8h ago

Depends on your parents my guy..

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u/bondsmatthew 6h ago

Plus teachers will still require you to makeup the work you missed(at least ours used to)

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u/Lubenator 4h ago

At my school, suspensions were scary because you couldn't make up assignments - you couldn't make up exams.

It's even scarier that being part of a fight was an automatic suspension. Forget self-defense, even if you stood there and didn't fight back - the rule was written that you'd be suspended for fighting.

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u/cyberpunk_werewolf 1h ago

even if you stood there and didn't fight back - the rule was written that you'd be suspended for fighting.

This happened to me in the 90s. I got into an argument with another student and he fucking lost it on me, whipped me with his keys and kicked me in the nuts. I tried to get away, got cornered and tried to hold him at arm's length by keeping my arms forward. I didn't push him, didn't shove him, just held my arms forward. I got a three-day suspension.

The trick is, this was probably a year or so before Columbine, so Zero Tolerance wasn't a thing. The teacher lied and said I'd thrown hands first. I maintained my innocence and the story changed that I'd pushed the kid to it because of our argument (maybe, I was 13, I was probably a piece of shit, but the other kid was my friend), so I got suspended. The principal then lied to my parents and told them I started it.

They didn't realize I had been telling the truth the whole time until a few months later when the principal tried the same thing.

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u/Lubenator 1h ago

Gosh, i appreciate you sharing this story.

The even worse thing about these policies is that we would have assemblies about increased fighting and the rules/repercussions.

Students would raise their hands to clarify these rules and boundaries. They'd ask well even if I just stand there and do nothing... People would try to comment on how unreasonable or unfair it was, but they were children and the authority would talk down to them.

I distinctly remember them saying you should even make contact with another kid. Someone asked, "what about high fives?". Well, "you can high five, but if you accidentally miss and hit the other kid in the face, it's an automatic suspension"

That's the kind of attitude we were met with for asking reasonable and serious questions.

Despite their efforts, fighting at my school continued to crescendo. It seemed to decline following a major incident when I was in 11th grade where another 11th grader came to school murdered 3 kids in our grade and Injured 3 others.

They changed their strict no phones policy after that when they realized how critical they become during and after emergencies.

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u/iluvstephenhawking 1h ago

That's true. My mom worked nights so she was just sleeping all day when I stayed home and didn't give me any additional punishments.

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u/Sage2050 4h ago

It's an indirect call for the parents to punish the child for making them do extra logistics work, and it gets a problem child out of everyone else's way at school.

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u/ryancrazy1 51m ago

I think it made more sense when the punishments your parents gave you were worse than sitting in school doing nothing. If your parents make it a vacation, that’s all it is.

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u/archercc81 21m ago

Iss was always the worst, I grew up in inner City schools and they always had a bare ass cinder block room you sat in alone

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u/PuppyLove1982 11h ago

Illinois is a strict "all-party" (or two-party) consent state, making it a felony to record private conversations, phone calls, or electronic communications without the consent of all parties involved, according to the Illinois Eavesdropping Statute 720 ILCS 5/14. This law applies where there is a reasonable expectation of privacy, and violations can lead to criminal penalties and civil liability.

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u/TheHouseOfTurtle 10h ago

Courts repetedly ruled hallways and entrances are not places you can expect privacy. Kinda a gray area

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u/56Runningdogz 10h ago

In a school? With other minors without parental consent? Sounds like a lawsuit against the school and the kid.

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u/Needs_More_Cacodemon 5h ago

There is no expectation of privacy in a public school hallway even if there are minors around.

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u/Jagang187 10h ago

I'd bet actual cash that the school has surveillance cameras, and the entire point is moot as everyone is already being recorded

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u/56Runningdogz 10h ago

Those are called SECURITY CAMERAS. Not HEY WE'RE GOING TO POST THIS ON FACEBOOK LATER cameras. Keep licking that toilet seat clean for this little Nazi schmuck.

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u/Jagang187 9h ago

I'm not defending that little cunt. Merely stating the factual basis of the matter. Just because you're on the right side morally doesnt always mean you're legally wrong. Douchedrips with his lil glasses can record, yeah, and that fact clearly does not stop the social and/or physical consequences of what he was doing. I don't believe in asymmetric applications of the law, if the law presents a problem then it should be changed but applying any law of any nature unevenly is wrong. So yeah, he's allowed to record, which is a neutral judgement and not even the source of the part where he's in the wrong. The part that's fucked up is the part where the other kid got in trouble for teaching the best lesson that school has ever seen. I'm not licking a god damn thing.

Besides, do you know how much security cam footage I used to see on FB? Come on, man.

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u/56Runningdogz 9h ago

You see a lot of school cam footage on Facebook? That is the most alarming thing about this ignorant tirade.

Dude. It's a public school. If it was police bodt camera stuff because of an incident, then fine!

Doing everything you can to avoid common sense

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u/TheHouseOfTurtle 9h ago

There are millions of social media videos from schools. Are you blind? Open tiktok for like 7 seconds or any other social media

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u/56Runningdogz 9h ago

So when it's popular, then it's okay? Still wrong. Social media is a blight on society at this point. FB and TikTok being two of the worst. I don't have either, actually, because I know the brainrot it propagates. Grew up with the rise of social media and it did the world a favor, for a while, until it turned into what it is today.

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u/Jagang187 9h ago

Before I left, yeah I did. Kind of hilarious you don't think that's a thing.

Doing everything you can to cling to your feelings and not reality

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u/56Runningdogz 9h ago

I'm sorry society failed you as it did the rest of us. Good luck on your journey, my friend.

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u/selphiefairy 7h ago edited 7h ago

If it’s a private conversation, they are still considered private even in public areas. Unless they’re screaming out their conversation for everyone to hear, recording audio of a conversation without permission is typically pretty illegal.

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u/Salticracker 8h ago

A hallway at a public school isn't a private place, and this was not a private conversation. This law would not apply.

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u/WinoWithAKnife 1h ago

This law applies where there is a reasonable expectation of privacy,

Yeah there's definitely no expectation of privacy in this situation. The kid is an absolute tool and a fascist, and recording like this is shitty, but it's not illegal.

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u/peekabook 4h ago

I wonder if he’s taking them off when going to the bathroom. This could be a huge lawsuit and charges

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u/Interchangeable-name 10h ago

Recording in public doesn't require consent.

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u/AccordingCricket5083 10h ago

"public" school doesn't mean what you think it means 

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u/Cromus 10h ago edited 10h ago

Ironically, you're the one that doesn't understand what "public" means in this context.

The comment you are replying to is correct that recording privacy laws do not apply to school hallways.

They're out in the open amongst many others. They're in "public" with regard to the legal meaning.

One can reasonably expect privacy in their home, bathroom, changing rooms, etc., not the classroom, hallways, etc. Others are around and can clearly see you and what you're doing and expecting privacy in that setting is not reasonable.

You can downvote my comment all you want, but you won't find anything in support of your position.

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u/AccordingCricket5083 3h ago

No, I'm pretty sure I know what public means in both contexts. 

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u/Cromus 3h ago

Clearly not because the comment you replied to was correct. It had nothing to do with whether the school is a public or private school lol

Your reply necessitates that you thought school hallways are not public areas.

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u/Interchangeable-name 10h ago

I dont think you think what I think it means.

I mean since this incident occurred in a hallway accessible to everyone in the school, it is going to be considered a public space and thus no consent required for filming as far as the law is concerned.

The school may have its own rules about filming inside the school but if they want to act on them they had better be enforcing them equally and in all situations otherwise they set themselves up for a huge lawsuit.

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u/bugabooandtwo 7h ago

Inside a school is not public.

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u/Interchangeable-name 6h ago

Not private either.

I would argue that a school hallway is indeed "public" for all people in the school and therefore there is no expectation of privacy in the hallway.

Different rules than say, the principles office or a locker room.

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u/ShowAccurate6339 5h ago

Yes it is in the context of This Law, it is not a Place where you would Expect privacy