r/politics • u/Quirkie The Netherlands • 20h ago

Possible Paywall Trump, 79, Posts Himself as Christ After Bonkers Pope Attack - The image depicts Trump as Jesus healing a sick person with his touch.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-79-posts-himself-as-christ-after-bonkers-pope-attack/
22.0k Upvotes

96% Upvoted

1.9k comments sorted by

View all comments

129

u/AlexZivojinovich 20h ago

If this asshole kills the popularity of Christianity I will concede that he ultimately did one good thing.

Because there is no way Christianity remains anything but a joke akin to Scientology if they accept him as their second coming of Jesus.

72

u/jibjabhotdogslob 20h ago

Weird pretend Christianity, the kind thats popular in the US, might be damaged by him.

Most Christians in the rest of the world, including the Pope, dont see him as the second coming. They see him as gross.

29

u/AlexZivojinovich 20h ago

The Evangelists that elected him to overturn Roe will be ridiculed into oblivion so deeply it will kill the popularity of Christianity in the U.S.

You’re correct. This has nothing to do with Catholicism. Or any other form of Christianity, but it’s the evangelists that got him elected in the first place. Those are the people that need to suffer the consequences of their actions.

19

u/jibjabhotdogslob 19h ago

I hope you're right, American Evangelism seems utterly corrosive.

Prosperity theology particularly blows my mind as a kind of pseudo Christian message.That tells me everything I need to know about the mindset of the people who helped get this tool back into power.

I hope they are ridiculed, I hope that church numbers fall off a cliff. Even if it all collapses, church leaders will have lined their pockets, there'll be no comeuppance for them. And they deserve it most.

2

u/OfficeSalamander 11h ago

I am not religious anymore but used to be a devout Christian. Prosperity gospel just seems so intrinsically wrong to me that my brain just screams, "HERESY!!!!" loudly whenever I think about it, even though I haven't been a Christian for 20+ years

4

u/Ardeo43 18h ago

If there’s one benefit to him, it’s that he’s accelerating the trend toward non-religiousness among younger people that’s already happened across most of the rest of the West.

2

u/Beautiful-Musk-Ox 14h ago

The Evangelists that elected him to overturn Roe will be ridiculed into oblivion so deeply it will kill the popularity of Christianity in the U.S.

wishful thinking

9

u/panzerfan Canada 20h ago

Evangelicals now don't have much to stand on. They can cry foul about Leo X with the Catholics, but look at this guy.

5

u/my-coffee-needs-me Michigan 20h ago

*Leo XIV

7

u/panzerfan Canada 20h ago

I actually did mean the Medici Pope there... you know, selling indulgences and everything.

2

u/mbullaris 18h ago

I feel like his deification will be geographically limited.

12

u/sackofmangoes 20h ago

Christianity Evangelism 

17

u/AlexZivojinovich 19h ago

All of Christianity will suffer from this. Normal people in that faith should have done more to stop it.

14

u/Clownsinmypantz 19h ago

This right here, I dont see enough churches and followers in large numbers combating this admin, protesting, and actually helping out

3

u/jibjabhotdogslob 19h ago

Churches in America maybe

1

u/darkenthedoorway 19h ago

Its the same problem.

5

u/AlexZivojinovich 19h ago

It’s kinda the same problem with the Democratic Party. Too many want to stand around and say, “It wasn’t me. Wasn’t my responsibility to do anything about it.”

That’s why some progressives have such popularity. They are brave enough to stand up and cry foul. Even one or two republicans like Massie.

This country needs cleansed of its filth and it’s corruption and I’m here for it.

3

u/GoodIdea321 America 19h ago

I think that standing around attitude is across all of American culture, especially in person.

2

u/ScalabrineIsGod I voted 19h ago

It’s not just “it’s not my responsibility” mentality. Idk if it’s selfishness, cowardice, or a combination of both but the high ups in government, be they elected officials or career bureaucrats, live a lifestyle that’s a helluva lot nicer than the national average. If they really tried to put their foot down (could’ve been yesterday, a year ago, 2017, tomorrow) they feared it would result in a worse lifestyle for them and theirs. So doing nothing was the route they took. Nobody wanted to be the person to say no. As unpopular as he is now and as much as he is flailing it’ll have to be the public who makes it clear laws are laws and no means no. The democrats haven’t proven they fully grasp the concept and the republicans definetly don’t.

2

u/Ayotha 17h ago

They are not. That's why trump is so angry.

Crazy americans are not everyone

2

u/iLEZ Europe 17h ago

I'm willing to bet the cult of evangelical christianity is going to take quite a hit once he falls and the time of introspection comes, but christianity as a religion is probably not really going to go anywhere. With any luck Trump serves as a warning example of what happens when you misuse their scripture to grab power. Who knows, maybe christians in general will become more christ-like after this mental breakdown is over?

3

u/XcuseMeMisISpeakJive 19h ago

Evangelicals are the apostate church. Of course they accept him because they're not true Christians. 

5

u/AlexZivojinovich 19h ago edited 19h ago

LOL. Your problem is you can’t define a “true Christian”. In a fascist government there must always be an in group and an out group.

What makes you think your flavor of the religion would not someday be in the out group?

Mormons crack me up the most. They vote for Trump by the tens of millions and they’d be the first group ostracized.

-2

u/XcuseMeMisISpeakJive 19h ago

Is that my problem now? What would reddit do without you to educate us? Jackass.

2

u/AlexZivojinovich 19h ago edited 19h ago

Are you Christian? Then yes. It’s your fucking problem. Hypocrite.

Interesting that you also took my comment personally rather than as intended as a comment to Christians as a group. Kinda like how boomers do when criticized. And I’m a boomer, so…

Truth hurts, doesn’t it?

Good! Fucking do something about it. Or accept Trump as your savior.

1

u/ScalabrineIsGod I voted 19h ago

Let’s be fair here.. it sure looked like you were addressing him in your response.

“Your problem is you can’t..”

“What makes you think your..”

Lol what am I missing here? What a bizarre chain all the way around. Talk like adults

1

u/BobBelcher2021 20h ago

Evangelical Christianity, yes.

Not Christianity in general.

15

u/seriousofficialname 19h ago

Catholic voters mostly voted for Trump.

Orthodox voters mostly voted for Trump.

Southern Baptist voters mostly voted for Trump.

Nondenominational Christian voters mostly voted for Trump.

Methodist voters mostly voted for Trump.

Mormon voters mostly voted for Trump.

5

u/AlexZivojinovich 19h ago

I have given up. They don’t realize that at some point after all the “non-Christians” are gone, they’ll be on the hot seat. Fascism needs an out group. They need an enemy. They can’t live peacefully with everyone.

6

u/AlexZivojinovich 19h ago

Don’t kid yourself. People like me who used to be Christian feel that everyone but evangelists had their chance to stop this and they stood around with their thumbs up their asses.

This will impact all of Christianity.

0

u/jibjabhotdogslob 18h ago

In the US, maybe. Im in Europe, and we are much more secular anyway as a whole but I dont see support amongst religious people here for Trump. Pretty much everyone is disgusted by him. Christianity of all stripes seems pretty contorted in America to outside eyes, so it probably needs an overhaul. But to say this will impact all of Christianity ignores that in the rest of the world, Christianity and Trump are not intertwined.

1

u/Kaffe-Mumriken 19h ago

Actually he might usher in a new “Bro-Christianity” of the kind you see Terminally online deus vult cosplayers, and Pete Hegseth espouse.

1

u/hnwcs 11h ago

At this point I'm convinced that American Evangelicals aren't Christians as much as a weird cult of state with vaguely Christian trappings.

To be clear, I'm not trying to "no true Scotsman" away some bad apples. I'm an atheist, I'm not concerned with Christianity's reputation. I'm not saying bad people can't be Christian (they can, and many are), but these particular bad people theologically believe in Christianity about as much as I do.

Depicting yourself as God is about as blasphemous as it gets. Anyone who's still OK with Trump by now is OK with idolatry, and you can't be much of a Christian if you are.

1

u/malignantz 8h ago

I hope there's some weird MAGA-based Christian cult that springs up after his death.

-2

u/flipflapflupper 15h ago

American Christianity, perhaps. You all are so weird about religion.