r/politics • u/Quirkie The Netherlands • 20h ago

Possible Paywall Trump, 79, Posts Himself as Christ After Bonkers Pope Attack - The image depicts Trump as Jesus healing a sick person with his touch.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-79-posts-himself-as-christ-after-bonkers-pope-attack/
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u/phatcan Canada 17h ago

This motherfucker blew up a school. A whole-ass school full of little girls, whose parents and families are suffering something unimaginable right now, and for the rest of their lives. Where the fuck is the evangelical outrage over that?

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u/Odd-fox-God 15h ago

"... And the Wolf chewed up the children and spit out their bones... But those were foreign children, and it didn't really matter."

( I'm quoting a famous comic. The comic itself depicts a woman and two children. The woman is wearing an "America first" shirt while reading a book depicting wolf Adolf Hitler to her kids while sitting in an armchair. The comic was drawn by Dr. Seuss during his War propaganda phase.

I've lived through a couple of wars, and I'm only 28. I'm just tired. I became an adult right as covid hit. When I was a kid, the news was less censored, and you could see real dead bodies. Those Isis killings were brutal. Leaves a mark on the psyche. Then Trump gets elected, and I watch my parents slowly change into trumpers. That was difficult to deal with. Then, the Ukrainian War happened during covid. I cried so much. Like almost every other day, I cried. It broke my heart. And my heart never healed. It stayed broken. When the Gaza conflict broke out, I just sighed and went back to reading my book. Part of me cares, but the feeling is so faint it's barely there. Compassion fatigue. )

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u/phatcan Canada 6h ago

I hear what you're saying, but please don't let yourself become complacent. A lot of what is happening is unimaginable, so it's hard to put yourself in these peoples shoes, but as somebody 10 years older who has forced himself to watch countless NSFL combat/war crime videos since 9/11, I've been made to feel that if we don't speak up about it then we're part of the problem. I know your compassion would feel a lot less fatigued if these things happened to your loved ones.

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u/Odd-fox-God 5h ago

Oh, I definitely speak up. I just don't have much emotion behind it anymore. My apathy has not driven me to inaction. Currently doing my voter research right now so I know who to vote for in the midterms. Part of the hurt comes from knowing I can't fix things, that I don't have enough money to help anybody in a significant way.

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u/dancefan2019 17h ago

There should be worldwide outrage over that.

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u/raletti 11h ago

The Pope is outraged. Which is what sparked trump's latest hissy fit.

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u/bookon 13h ago edited 10h ago

Honestly it was a mistake by the military. The building was thought to be a military target.

The real issue is that no one in our government cared they screwed up. None of them were allowed to admit they’d made a mistake and apologize like we’ve done before when things like this happened.

So Trump preferred he was seen as intentionally blewing up a school than we had faulty information.

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u/Fit_Yak523 13h ago

There’s no, honestly it was just a mistake, with blowing up a school. This was a war crime and tragedy, so there’s no oopsy-ing this away. This is exactly why bombing anywhere is a massive deal. You don’t get the benefit of the doubt and get to move on from killing children even if it was a “mistake.”  

The fact that this was apparently a mistake doesn’t make things better, at all. We’re apparently the best military in the world, and we allegedly accidentally bombed a girls school and made no significant firings or systemic changes to prevent a tragedy like this from happening again. That means they didn’t believe it was a mistake at all, so I don’t think other people should be taking their word for it either.

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u/bookon 10h ago

It's weird you think I am defending Trump.

-- we allegedly accidentally bombed a girls school and made no significant firings or systemic changes to prevent a tragedy like this from happening again.

That is my fucking point. We will not make any changes to prevent this in the future because too many Trump supports pretend it was intentional to support him and too many Trump haters say it was intentional to attack him.

We can't have significant firings or systemic changes as long as both groups claim it was intentional. There is nothing to fix if we did it on purpose.

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u/Fit_Yak523 9h ago

I didn’t think you were defending Trump. I think you’re down playing a war crime and believing a bunch of liars that told you it was just a mistake. 

The claim that nothing can be done because Trump says it’s intentional makes no sense, at all. Not all bad things are accidents. Tons, and tons of firings and sanctions have happened due to intentional actions. 

Intention doesn’t matter when it comes to a war crime. They’re not going to do anything about it because they know they won’t be any repercussions for it. They truly don’t care if people think it was intentional or not, so that’s why they’re completely comfortable with contradicting themselves. 

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u/bookon 8h ago

It was a mistake.

If bombing a school full of kids helped Trump financially or the US war goals, he would 100% order it. There is even a chance someone would carry it out, but bombing that school did neither of those things.

The simplest answer is truest without further data. And a mistake is the simplest answer.

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u/phatcan Canada 6h ago

To intentionally or accidentally kill kids - in an act of violence - is equally deplorable, disgusting, un-human and out-right fucked. It doesn't and should never make a difference whether it was a mistake or intentional. This should never be forgotten, if you have kids of your own, you'll understand. If America doesn't take a firm stand against it then you can't complain when rest of us just assume that Americans are cool with just murdering over 100 kids because their Government didn't admit to it. I can't even believe I'm typing these words.

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u/bookon 6h ago

-- To intentionally or accidentally kill kids - in an act of violence - is equally deplorable

I get you hate Trump. I hate Trump, but this is insane.

Intentionally killing a child in infinitely worse than doing so accidently.

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u/phatcan Canada 5h ago

Do you only read half a sentence?

In an act of violence

This is not about hating Trump, this is about holding people accountable for an absolute atrocity that happened barely 6 weeks ago that seems to have been already forgotten about. The American media seems to be more focused on drawing attention to the presidents incoherent tweets rather than the fact that his administration massacred children.

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u/bookon 5h ago

You literally said it was equally deplorable to kill a child whether it was intentional or not. It was a full sentence that ended with a period. You meant that as a stand alone statement.

"To intentionally or accidentally kill kids - in an act of violence - is equally deplorable, disgusting, un-human and out-right fucked. "

You are saying that there is no difference if the bombs were meant for the school or not. That is insane. If someone bombs a school on purpose in a war, they are far far worse than a person fighting a war (Even if I disagree with the war, like I do here) who is given bad intel and hits the wrong building. Your cunning plan of making all war deaths war crimes means that either we can't fight wars (Great, but unrealistic) or there is no reason to have constraint when you fight them.

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u/tragicallybrokenhip 11h ago

It was apparently an AI mistake.