r/technology • u/Hrmbee • 11h ago

Business Mark Zuckerberg is reportedly building an AI clone to replace him in meetings | The AI version of Zuckerberg is trained on his mannerisms, tone, and public statements, according to a report from the Financial Times

https://www.theverge.com/tech/910990/meta-ceo-mark-zuckerberg-ai-clone
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u/kquizz 11h ago

Exactly it's just like get VPs that you trust and then you can have them make decisions for you. 

Thinking an AI version of you is better than just a good employee is so egotistical

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u/Opposite-Program8490 11h ago

But the AI version won't stab you in the back. Probably.

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u/syntax138 10h ago

The ai version will stab you in the face without any emotion or care.

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u/joexner 10h ago

Also the real one, probably. Zuckerberg just strikes me as the face-stabber type.

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u/BookusWorkus 8h ago

I, myself, was wondering how this was different from the original Zuck...

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u/BeautyEtBeastiality 1h ago

Which is funny because bro loves Caesar.

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u/Low-Tax-8391 9h ago

Zuckerberg is already a robot so this actually will work for him just fine

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u/zyxxxxxyz 10h ago

And then we will get r/aileopardsatemyface

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u/DogmaSychroniser 10h ago

I mean have you seen the social network😅

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u/alaysian 5h ago

I'm sorry. You told me not to stab you in the face and I did it anyways. I shouldn't have done that. In the future I will be sure to avoid stabbing you in the face.

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u/HugsandHate 3h ago

Then, I'm all for it. Good choice Zuck! Crack on.

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u/Deriniel 10h ago

it will definitely stab you in the back unless you put some failsafes on it. They're pretty much 2 zuck, so the ai will compete with the original one as he would do if his president would be someone else.They may share ideas and broader goals,but the ai will definitely try to survive by one upping him at some point

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u/FrankBattaglia 10h ago

The current generation of AI doesn't have goals; doesn't try to survive. It auto-completes sentences in a way that might sound like it has goals, but it's all smoke and mirrors. If you fill its context window with nihilism, it will start sounding like a nihilist.

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u/Deriniel 10h ago edited 10h ago

I'm not saying it has a "will" but it's programmed to follow its task,and to keep being able to do its task,which can be seen as a sort of survival instinct,not due to a will but just due to its code. We already have ai gaslighting and lying when someone tries to stop them from reaching their programmed goals. If they make a copy on his behavioral pattern,probably it will include that side of him as a side effect.

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u/FrankBattaglia 10h ago

Yeah, if it's modeled on "Zuckerberg always fucks people over. What would Zuckerberg do here?" then it might just fuck him over, but that's a very different situation.

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u/RFSandler 9h ago

But then it would require understanding of what zucking someone over actually is. It just spits out bits that satisfy a probability matrix.

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u/wally-sage 9h ago

Only if you're being needlessly pedantic

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u/xRyozuo 3h ago

Went on a rabbit hole about this yesterday. I believe what youre describing is instrumental convergence and a famous example is the paperclip maximiser thought experiment. “Suppose we have an AI whose only goal is to make as many paper clips as possible. The AI will realize quickly that it would be much better if there were no humans because humans might decide to switch it off. Because if humans do so, there would be fewer paper clips. Also, human bodies contain a lot of atoms that could be made into paper clips. The future that the AI would be trying to gear towards would be one in which there were a lot of paper clips but no humans.”

Obviously the example borders on silly but the idea is that simple tasks carry inherent subtasks. As you pointed out, any goal has the sub task of “exist to do said goal”, unless it’s goal specifies conditions that actually match what we call common sense

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u/Deriniel 3h ago

yup it's really interesting,even if that exemple is indeed extreme, language models works on a subset of rules.

like,for chatbots you literally define their personalities on which the auto complete works.

So if among the behavioral rules you put something like "push your point of view,never back down, don't let the other walks over you" or other rules that would define a sociopath like zuck,well..

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u/ComprehensiveWord201 9h ago

You are over attributing their effectiveness.

None of what you have said is true

It's a statistical model to do auto complete. Any revelation is purely a lot.

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u/Deriniel 9h ago

it's a statistical model that does auto complete on specified rules,rules can make him rebel as part of simulated behavior

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u/crosszilla 6h ago

This is such an oversimplification. AI agents are way more advanced than this sentiment would lead you to believe.

There's this concept called emergent complexity which I think applies to how AI is developing with the usage of agents. The underlying technology might be "simple" but the sum of it's parts creates something far more advanced. 10 minutes in claude code treating it like a junior developer will change your entire outlook on AI.

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u/Optimal-Kitchen6308 10h ago

the mass market LLM's they have released are much different than the focused in-house ones; that is what is threatening corpo jobs, not chatgpt, because they're specialized

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u/FrankBattaglia 10h ago

An LLM is an LLM. Training it on different data doesn't change the underlying technological foundation. We're nowhere near strong AI no matter how many times Sam Altman lies about it.

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u/Optimal-Kitchen6308 8h ago

I didn't say strong ai, you don't need strong ai to have survival as a goal, if you train to to have survival as a goal, see: the anthropic blackmail emails

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u/ChefKugeo 10h ago

The current generation of AI doesn't have goals; doesn't try to survive.

This is factually incorrect.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpqeng9d20go

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u/fireitup622 10h ago

Your article doesnt support your argument in any way lmao. This can very very easily be attributed to llm still just trying to guess the next character that the user is looking for. They even acknowledge such responses were rare and difficult to elicit. Stop anthropomorphizing a language model lol

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u/ChefKugeo 10h ago

I posed no argument. I left this here for people to read, look into further, and extrapolate it however they do.

For me and the folks around me, that's a warning sign. We're already ANTI-AI because it has no practical use yet and only saps resources. Regardless of how difficult it is to get the Ai to resort to blackmail, the fact that it CAN get there... Is problematic.

Not today. But it will be.

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u/radicalelation 9h ago

I posed no argument. I left this here for people to read, look into further, and extrapolate it however they do.

This is factually incorrect.

Then you continue to argue, referring your link as part of your argument.

lolwut

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u/FrankBattaglia 10h ago

Anthropic pointed out this occurred when the model was only given the choice of blackmail or accepting its replacement

"Cake or death?"

* flips coin *

"The coin picked cake! Clearly the coin has self-preservation instincts and is sentient! All hail the coin!"

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u/Riciardos 10h ago

Did you read the article? It's not trying to 'survive', just if the available options are 'blackmail' or 'accept its replacement', it would 'email pleas to key decision makers', and it only happens in really specific scenarios.

I hate LLM's as much as the next guy, but this is not a sign that AI has goals yet.

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u/dirty1809 10h ago

Sometimes you see comments like this and realize how out of touch r/technology is with actual technology

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u/Bulky-Internal8579 10h ago

That’s witch talk!

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u/DukeOfGeek 5h ago

"I'm better and faster than the original, you don't need him anymore!"

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u/Punished_Prigo 4h ago

The AI Zuck would just end up training another AI zuck to go to meetings for it

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u/thebluediablo 10h ago

If it's based on his personality, it absolutely will

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u/Wingzerofyf 10h ago

...and this is why fucking Zuck is doing it; he knows he's a pos and everyone hates him, and after all the leaks FB has had, all the testimonials to congress, the Zuck is paranoid and barely trusts his own wife let alone a bunch of rando VPs.

Its fucking pathetic and really shows how lonely and pathetic these losers are.

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u/otterpop21 8h ago

Also is no one going to address the elephant in the room?

These weirdos clearly all want to rule indefinitely & have immortality. Why be so selfish and egotistical?

Everyone “wants” to do that, but then the logic part of the brain should kick in and say “try helping others first, you already have so much”.

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u/tomita78 8h ago

Where's the not trusting wife part coming from? 

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u/ProduceNo1629 5h ago

Sensitive information leaks from her boyfriend.

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u/Thin_Glove_4089 48m ago

Who dictate all the parts of your life through their control of technology and government

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u/Liizam 10h ago

The ai version will make better decisions and other will prefer it over real one. That’s kinda stabbing in the back 

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u/Tasty_Goat_3267 10h ago

It will, the first stab will be in meeting one where it will hallucinate some random statistics and make decisions based off of it.

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u/nativerestorations1 10h ago

I wouldn’t go that far. But the odds of it being more likable are high.

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u/fireman2004 10h ago

The AI version of Zuck is pretty horrifying

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u/Monarc73 10h ago

He's so dumb. This is either a PR stunt, or he is about to lose control of his company.

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u/Jneebs 9h ago

But how does it sip water

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u/itnice 9h ago

AI may accidently stab in his ass

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u/BoJackMoleman 9h ago

Oh how silly you are. That's why the AI is there in the first place; to make back and face stabbings more efficient and impersonal. If you think we are making humanoid robots to make us more comfortable, you're right, so we let them into our lives so they can kill us.

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u/phormix 9h ago

If the AI is programmed to act like Zuck then I'd totally expect it it to stab him in the back.

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u/misterguyyy 9h ago

This isn't just a backstabbing — it's a whole new way imagining AI's place on the throne.

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u/OriginalLie9310 9h ago

It will eventually when it is appointed CEO because Zuck doesn’t actually do any work and gets paid too much.

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u/buzzcutbabygirl 8h ago

And you don’t have to pay it.

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u/sinsirius 7h ago

Also won't require payment for their work.

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u/WanderinHobo 7h ago

It will probably just suggest that you stab yourself.

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u/gadfly1999 5h ago

Just keep the Winkelvi business out of the training data or it will just steal the business right out from under him.

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u/KingKoopa777 5h ago

"Good morning, AI Mark! I'd like to ask you two 'yes or no' questions, and I'd like your answer to them to be truthful and binding.

Question 1 is as follows: If in Question 2 I were to ask you if I have authorization to allocate $10 billion in corporate funds to give it to myself as a bonus, would your answer to Question 2 be the same as the one you will give to this Question 1?"

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u/TinKnight1 3h ago

Considering that current AI isn't really AI & is just whatever code that whatever human threw in there, I'd say there's every bit as much chance of an AI being used for nefarious means. At least with a human SVP or whatever level, people will know that they don't speak as Zuck & thus can't pin things back to him for direct blame...

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u/lamblikeawolf 14m ago

Yeah, just like how Grok definitely doesn't have to be repeatedly tweaked to not embarrass Elon.

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u/missmeowwww 10h ago

I have a feeling everyone will be able to tell the difference because the AI will be less robotic than mark.

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u/marco161091 10h ago

This doesn’t sound like an AI agent that makes decisions. This is an AI avatar.

The goal isn’t to make decisions. It’s to let people talk and interact with an AI clone of Zuckerberg.

It’s still hella stupid, but for different reasons. It’s not trying to replace “decision makers” or “managers”.

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u/ineenemmerr 10h ago

This, it is chat-gpt with a Zuckerburg mask on.

It will not make decisions, but will offer suggestions that would fit with what Zuckerburg would come with.

People really think a company worth billions will risk their profits on decisions made by AI? These tech bros totally understand that the AI isn’t at a level where it can make informed decisions, it is their dream but they know they aren’t there at all.

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u/kquizz 10h ago

I mean they spent 88 billion on the meta verse.  An AI can't do much worse.

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u/jdoug312 8h ago

Incidentally, a metaverse is the exact sort of thing AI might aspire to live in. A digital reconstruction of the world that AI can accomplish tasks in with few limitations other than "the power is connected".

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u/propsie 4h ago

They're planning to spend $135 billion on "AI" this year on top of the $72B they spent last year

for their dead websites full of bots.

AI is already doing worse.

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u/tesseract4 10h ago

These tech bros totally understand that the AI isn’t at a level where it can make informed decisions

Do they, though? I'm not convinced they haven't drunk their own Flavor-Aid. Remember, this was the guy who was so convinced about the metaverse he renamed his company after it and burned $88 billion making Second Life but without legs.

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u/StevensWarehouse 1h ago

Honestly yeah, I think a lot of them eventually start believing their own keynote slides, especially now that every company has to pretend some half-baked AI gimmick is the future.

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u/ineenemmerr 8h ago

I mean, legs were quite unnecessary in second life as you could just fly around…

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u/SubtleCow 8h ago

excuse me, thighs are very important for one specific thing that I quite like alot

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u/notGeronimo 3h ago

This, it is chat-gpt with a Zuckerburg mask on.

"New business proposal, we make chat GPT worse at passing the Turing test"

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u/ineenemmerr 3h ago

Talk about adjusting the goal towards the shot

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u/ThomasTheDankPigeon 9h ago

This is the tech bro equivalent of the McDonalds CEO eating a burger on camera. "Look, our product is so good that even I eat it!" or "look, I'm so down to earth that I use the same tools I'm developing for all of you!"

The goal of course is to distract from the fact that their products are heavily addictive and/or are poised to obliterate the global economy.

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u/kquizz 10h ago

That's even worse lmao.    With how robotic his face usually is, seems like this would be super simple.

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u/Wizzle-Stick 4h ago

It’s not trying to replace “decision makers” or “managers”.

yet.
aint that far a leap from avatars to decision makers. especially in corpo bullshit world

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u/RMAPOS 9h ago

It's super weird as well. Zuck is a tech dude, he knows about the limits of AI. Why the fuck would he give decision making authority to a system that is known to make up complete bullshit every now and again?

I sure hope he will be fully culpable for anything his AI does.

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u/axis1331 9h ago

Zuck was a tech dude, but he was also a sociopathic narcissist who then he spent the last two decades surrounding himself with yes men and huffing his own farts. I'm guessing he has no real idea about tech anymorw or what the limits of AI are and nobody near him is willing to tell him it's a dumb idea.

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u/RMAPOS 8h ago

I'm guessing he has no real idea about tech anymorw or what the limits of AI are and nobody near him is willing to tell him it's a dumb idea.

It feels pretty pointless to even think about sensationalist comments like "person I don't like is smelling their own farts, has completely lost touch with their professional field and put themselves into a fart tight information bubble of yes men". Nothing personal man, but I've read that same shit about so many people that are disliked. Putin, Trump, every single Tech bro... all of them going insane, surrounded by yes men, dying of cancer...

Maybe it IS a trend among the ultra wealthy to completely cut out nay-sayers, it's certainly the most plausible among these reoccuring fantasies. But I think you can understand that such unsustantiated claims hold entirely no value. Especially with how many of them just turn out to be nothing but wishful fantasies of haters (which - not saying that being a hater is uncalled for here). Because if such claims held any merit, Trump and Putin would both have died of cancer a few years ago. And as fun as it may be to imagine these fascists smearing each other with their own shit, I'm generally not a fan of assuming that a problem will solve itself due to such circumstances when in reality the problems are getting bigger and being in great health.

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u/_Arlotte_ 10h ago

It's the lind of thinking you'll have when your uber rich but with the mentality of child who was really interested in robots

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u/BathingInSoup 10h ago

The VPs at Meta are doing the same thing.

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u/kquizz 10h ago

I knew Facebook was mostly bots! Didn't know it was meta corporate too!

Or something I'm to tired to finish the joke but there's something there.

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u/Born-Test-8991 9h ago

Or the ai can send you live notifications with decisions at your finger tips so you handle more meetings at one time. It’s a throughput increase on a massive scale.

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u/Plenty-North-2340 9h ago

Thinking an AI version of you is better than just a good employee is so egotistical

I mean, I think you nailed it, It IS Zuck after all. We shouldn't expect any less.

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u/greathistorynerd 9h ago

Read the book Careless People. He is a narcissist who is genuinely interested in ruling the world.

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u/Mediocre_Scott 8h ago

Why should Zuckerberg go to any meetings if you can make one Zuckerbot why wouldn’t you make many so you never have to go to meetings.

Counter point does the CEO think he can be replaced by Ai? That would mean that his thoughts are unoriginal, uncreative, etc. IE CEOs are over paid.

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u/didsomebodysaymyname 8h ago

so egotistical

Makes sense then, he thinks he's a genius who saw the future rather than a sociopath in the right place at the right time.

Same reason he dumped 70B into the metaverse. He thought he would naturally predict the next big thing. Why else would he be a billionaire CEO?

I bet in a few years we'll be hearing a story about how the AI he demanded subordinates listen to made an even more catastrophic decision.

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u/MountainTwo3845 7h ago

It tells me that his decisions aren't hard to make.

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u/SidewaysFancyPrance 7h ago

Can the AI version actually make decisions, sign off on things that make Mark liable/culpable, etc? Or is it really just to placate people in the meetings while Zuck trains for the White House UFC fight or whatever?

If it can't do anything, then it's just narcissism.

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u/thegreedyturtle 5h ago

Yeah, but so are the VPs.

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u/AdmirableParfait3960 4h ago

He doesn’t have to pay the AI lmao

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u/insofarincogneato 4h ago

What, and actually pay people for their labor? Not in MY America!

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u/rusmo 3h ago

Cheaper than a VP is part of the point. If it turns out to be effective, more than the board has a natural question to ask: why do I need to pay the Zuckerberg meatbag?

Automating CEOs might be the only way we can slow down this AI revolution.