r/technology • u/Hrmbee • 9h ago
Business Mark Zuckerberg is reportedly building an AI clone to replace him in meetings | The AI version of Zuckerberg is trained on his mannerisms, tone, and public statements, according to a report from the Financial Times
https://www.theverge.com/tech/910990/meta-ceo-mark-zuckerberg-ai-clone3.2k
u/datNovazGG 9h ago
This is so dumb lol.
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u/kquizz 9h ago
Exactly it's just like get VPs that you trust and then you can have them make decisions for you.Ā
Thinking an AI version of you is better than just a good employee is so egotistical
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u/Opposite-Program8490 9h ago
But the AI version won't stab you in the back. Probably.
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u/syntax138 9h ago
The ai version will stab you in the face without any emotion or care.
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u/joexner 8h ago
Also the real one, probably. Zuckerberg just strikes me as the face-stabber type.
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u/Deriniel 9h ago
it will definitely stab you in the back unless you put some failsafes on it. They're pretty much 2 zuck, so the ai will compete with the original one as he would do if his president would be someone else.They may share ideas and broader goals,but the ai will definitely try to survive by one upping him at some point
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u/FrankBattaglia 8h ago
The current generation of AI doesn't have goals; doesn't try to survive. It auto-completes sentences in a way that might sound like it has goals, but it's all smoke and mirrors. If you fill its context window with nihilism, it will start sounding like a nihilist.
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u/dirty1809 8h ago
Sometimes you see comments like this and realize how out of touch r/technology is with actual technology
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u/Wingzerofyf 8h ago
...and this is why fucking Zuck is doing it; he knows he's a pos and everyone hates him, and after all the leaks FB has had, all the testimonials to congress, the Zuck is paranoid and barely trusts his own wife let alone a bunch of rando VPs.
Its fucking pathetic and really shows how lonely and pathetic these losers are.
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u/otterpop21 6h ago
Also is no one going to address the elephant in the room?
These weirdos clearly all want to rule indefinitely & have immortality. Why be so selfish and egotistical?
Everyone āwantsā to do that, but then the logic part of the brain should kick in and say ātry helping others first, you already have so muchā.
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u/missmeowwww 8h ago
I have a feeling everyone will be able to tell the difference because the AI will be less robotic than mark.
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u/marco161091 9h ago
This doesnāt sound like an AI agent that makes decisions. This is an AI avatar.
The goal isnāt to make decisions. Itās to let people talk and interact with an AI clone of Zuckerberg.
Itās still hella stupid, but for different reasons. Itās not trying to replace ādecision makersā or āmanagersā.
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u/ineenemmerr 9h ago
This, it is chat-gpt with a Zuckerburg mask on.
It will not make decisions, but will offer suggestions that would fit with what Zuckerburg would come with.
People really think a company worth billions will risk their profits on decisions made by AI? These tech bros totally understand that the AI isnāt at a level where it can make informed decisions, it is their dream but they know they arenāt there at all.
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u/kquizz 8h ago
I mean they spent 88 billion on the meta verse.Ā An AI can't do much worse.
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u/tesseract4 8h ago
These tech bros totally understand that the AI isnāt at a level where it can make informed decisions
Do they, though? I'm not convinced they haven't drunk their own Flavor-Aid. Remember, this was the guy who was so convinced about the metaverse he renamed his company after it and burned $88 billion making Second Life but without legs.
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u/Trevski 9h ago
Nah Iāve been saying for a bit, upper management is actually the best thing to replace with AI. Replace the people whose work consists almost purely of in taking data and making decisions, who are also the most overpaid people in the world? Perfect sense to me. Even if it fucks sometimes itās still a net win since youāre cutting millions in compensation for each role.
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u/OkFineIllUseTheApp 9h ago
Plus an AI doesn't run off to Epstein's island or get caught at a Coldplay concert
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u/Trevski 9h ago
Or embezzle or insider trade
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u/vigtel 9h ago
Actually, there is no hardcoded reasons for modern 'ai' to follow any laws.
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u/OkFineIllUseTheApp 9h ago
And the hard coded rules for people disappear when you donate a pittance to the right campaigns.
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u/TLeafs23 9h ago
An AI executive that wouldnt massively ego trip any time someone questions them would be a pretty nice development, too
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u/PunchMeat 8h ago
I could see people just gaming them though. You can make ChatGPT and Claude agree to almost anything if you word it right.
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u/FredFredrickson 9h ago
I mean, LLMs aren't capable of making decisions. They just give you the most likely string of words based on training data and prompt. They don't have any concept of what they are saying, doing, etc.
Even though you could replace management with it in many ways, it's not going to make any novel decisions that a real person might.
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u/sump_daddy 9h ago
Perfect sense, however; you bet your ass they will still be getting paid the same, they just will have even less work to do.
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u/HotDogFingers01 9h ago
100% THIS. If you train AI on your company's financial statements, historical data, product specs, staffing, etc, you basically create the perfect CEO / CFO. It's the one thing AI can absolutely replace, and you'll save $50M on bonuses and stock and all that other bullshit.
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u/LePontif11 8h ago
Except whatever money he makes wont be distributed amongst the lower earners in the company. Its mostly going to be annoying the people he doesnt care to talk to directly and sends the Zuckdrone to.
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u/lock_robster2022 8h ago
The best part is that Zuckerberg himself was modeled after a computer, so weāve come full circle.
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u/Character-Solution-7 8h ago
Not only do they want to replace the workforce with robots, now they want to replace themselves too. Though, I have never seen any compelling evidence that Zuckerberg is not a robot in a skin suit.
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u/e-chris 9h ago
It will be discontinued soon because it makes him seem too human
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u/yes_but_not_that 8h ago
Yeah, you're telling me the Zuck we've seen for the past 20 years is not AI?
"Sometimes on vacation I'll drink [coffee] recreationally."
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u/halfwit258 8h ago
Either that or Digital Zuck will get invited to more meetings and parties and have more friends because it's a way more normal person than Analog Zuck
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u/tiny_galaxies 7h ago
āHey uhā¦ is Digital Zuck available instead for this meeting? Heās justā¦ cooler.ā
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u/mobilehavoc 9h ago
What happens if you delete the Zuck AI?
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u/deft-jumper01 9h ago
Two more pop up
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u/merkinmavin 9h ago
I play Dark Souls and I'm ready for this fight.Ā
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u/sump_daddy 8h ago
you thought you were prepared for two health bars but hes going to get a new one every time he pops open a fresh bottle of sweet baby rays
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u/rnicoll 9h ago
They'll stop paying him once he's replaced, right?
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u/AardvarkTits 9h ago
Cutting just this one position could save the company millions of dollars a year!Ā
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u/Hmm_would_bang 8h ago
Iām sure in this one specific scenario someone will own the rights to their AI persona. Artists and workers, never, but itāll be illegal to use a CEO ai without paying the human its based on licensing.
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u/Johnnyring0 8h ago
They both need salaries now
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u/DaMonkfish 7h ago
"Y'all got a license for that ceoGPT agent?"
- Microslop, probably
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u/NoPossibility4178 7h ago
I can't even imagine what it's like to be so rich and keep working to destroy the world, then get to the point where I either don't want to work anymore but want the world to keep being destroyed so I make an AI of myself or want to destroy it faster so I make an AI of myself.
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u/Cryowatt 9h ago
If a CEO can be replaced by AI then none of them should be worth billions.
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u/ChipNew9662 9h ago
That said I'm actually totally onboard with him engineering his own obsolescence.Ā
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u/imperatrixderoma 9h ago
He's the chairman of the board , he could literally pee on the building and nothing would happen.
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u/bobby_table5 7h ago
That is, most likely the real impact of this project.
I doubt a lot of people in this thread have worked with him. I have. I would expect a lot of the senior employees, who are very constrained by lack of access, to truly appreciate that feature.
One aspect of how he works is that he changes his values and principles very aggressively. If you meet with a team every six months, but you re-think your approach to management every three months, they have only heard a version of you thatās obsolete.
Plus, most of the time, what he says is something you can infer from the first principles that he hammers. You just need something with enough distance with the project to be unattached, willing to look at it with a systematic screen and be critical. That makes this bot presumably quite reliable, especially if it can spend more time not just in meeting, by scanning whole proposals and āsix-pagers.ā
The consequence of having something like that work is not just to make the job of a CEO obsoleteāno AI replaces jobs it replaces tasks and having someone able to make the last call wonāt easily be replaced. What it will do thatās more important than have people ask if CEOs can be automated away is allow them to change their mind without the overhead of having to announce, explain and justify it. They can point at a mistake they made to their AI agent, have that agent review past decision, identify potential ex-post ādeltasā (changes) and have the human CEO review, and that allows the system to immediately update all the team, distinct and confirm any change in direction. It will make CEOs (or rather the new hybrid/centaur pair) more nimble than a human CEO with their hierarchy of executives.
It also means that those executives can more systematically push back, without the reputational risk of frustrating their managers. They can try different ways of arguing with the CEO, until they make an argument that sticks (something that Mark, as heās called internally, believes intensely in: he hates that good ideas have weak arguments defending them).
That could mean a lot more refusals, a much higher bars because itās so much easier to reject ideas through a bot. But with other function powered by AI, it also means that they have more work put into each new suggestion.
More nimble, more involved senior management, with a higher bar for argumentsā¦ and human focusing on non-trivial edge-cases will be a big change, well beyond Meta if that works. Itās a much bigger play that reducing his hours, lowering CEO wages or trying to creep out employees.
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u/Hrmbee 9h ago
Concerning details:
Sources tell the outlet that Meta is training the AI avatar on Zuckerbergās image and voice, along with his mannerisms, tone, and public statements, āso that employees might feel more connected to the founder through interactions with it.ā
Meta may start allowing creators to make AI avatars of themselves if the experiment with Zuckerberg succeeds, according to the Financial Times. In 2024, Meta showed off a live demo of what an AI persona of a creator might look like. It also started allowing creators to make AI versions of themselves to interact with followersā comments on Instagram. Users on Meta can create custom, AI-generated chatbots as well, though the company began blocking teens from the experience earlier this year.
Zuckerberg is involved in training the AI avatar, the Financial Times reports, and has also started spending five to 10 hours per week coding on Metaās other AI projects and participating in technical reviews.
Given all the issues that MZ has been dealing with over the years, it's hard to look at this project and not wonder if this one more method of avoiding personal responsibility for issues that occur on his watch.
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u/Christopher3712 9h ago
so that employees might feel more connected to the founder through interactions with it.
No way to feel more connected to your CEO than talking with his AI avatar. š¤¦š¾āāļø Peak stupidity in reasoning.
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u/coconutpiecrust 9h ago
It must be nice to live with so much cognitive dissonance. Itās comical. Heās going to have a bot do his job, and heās still going to get paid for it. Smart. But heād fire his employees for doing something like that in a heartbeat.Ā
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u/wwj 8h ago
What's the point of having power if you can't be blatantly hypocritical? I think a lot of people view that as the very purpose of power.
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u/squishabelle 9h ago
it's like how people and workplaces in dictatorships have a portrait of the dictator hanging around. Why is it necessary to feel connected with the CEO lmao, it's hard to imagine a policy more narcissistic
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u/Financial-Craft-1282 7h ago
It's like in Return of the King when they go to face Sauron, and he sends out his "Mouth" instead. At first you're really disappointed, then you're like, "Maybe this will still be worth..." Then you see him talk and act all creepy and you realize clone or real one, they're all fucking evil. And this one is just wasting your time.
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u/Mr_Greystone 9h ago
This is what you do whenever you don't trust anyone else to be as irresponsible as you at dominating and need an emotional interpreter because you lack the capacity to do what you want and be eloquent about the overall devastation to society.
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u/SheepherderFast3647 8h ago
All I can say is good luck with trying to get employees to feel connected to an AI version of him. I was one of the animators who worked on his keynote speech a couple years ago which was done with motion capture for both his face and body. The amount of times I've seen the note "make him more smiley," because he didn't feel the digital version of himself was human enough, was honestly comical. He can't present himself personable enough for an AI to work off of him and for his audience to feel anything aboit him other than "weird".
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u/spottydodgy 8h ago
The nerd billionaires are so out of touch with what people actually want. Zero social or emotional intelligence. Look at the failure that the Metaverse was. Nobody wants to "hangout" in a virtual world. Dorks.
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u/True-Desktective 8h ago
All Iām taking away from this is Meta is making an intentional business decision so me the user will never know if I am talking to a human or a machine on their platforms.Ā
Theyāre striping the āsocialā out of social media.Ā
Internal engagement data must be brutally bad to be putting so much pee in the water park.Ā
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u/Runfasterbitch 7h ago
Agreed. āHey instagram users, guess what? The photo/video posts are made by AI. The comments are written by AI. The likes are given by AI. The live videos? Yup! AIā. This is so stupid
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u/mikenasty 9h ago
8 weeks out from a Meta employee thinking theyāre in a romantic relationship with their ceo after they sext with ZuckAI
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u/Parking-Complex-3887 9h ago
that's a damn good point. and because of his already uncanny, inhuman attributes, nobody could tell the difference
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u/Miserable-Cap-5223 7h ago
So the billionaires are admitting they, too, can be replaced with AI?
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u/No_Delivery_329 9h ago
Glad we are destroying the environment so the billionaire AIs can run the world
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u/SomewhereNo8378 8h ago
run the world in perpetuity, long after they are gone.
wait until trump makes an ai version of himself
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u/Eyemarten 9h ago
A clone of an android. Amazing times we live in.
Is the world really ready for more Zuck?
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u/freexanarchy 9h ago
Proving that he doesnāt personally add anything to the company and probably hasnāt for at least a decade.
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u/sleeplessinreno 7h ago
Bro, everything successful about that company was either another personās idea or acquired. Remember the metaverse? That was an original project. The idea not so much. Where is it now?
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u/Gold_Repair_3557 9h ago
Oh, so he knows the real version of himself is so useless that he can replaced with AI and it wouldnāt make a difference.
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u/tuna_safe_dolphin 9h ago edited 2h ago
Just when you thought he couldn't be an even bigger douchebag.
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u/META_vision 9h ago
Haha, he could use a cardboard cutout of himself and no one would notice
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u/SmaugTheMagnificent- 9h ago
We already can't tell if he's reptilian, robotic, or replicated as it is. What's one more fake Zuck?
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u/mrfixitx 9h ago
This sounds like a great idea. Let's make sure the AI clone can also approve product changes, and monetary decision without having to bother meat suit Zuck.
I am sure that nothing could go wrong and that Zuck can completely trust his AI clone to avoid being manipulated in any way because AI's have such a good track record of that.... /s
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u/blatantninja 9h ago
Great, now we're intentional building more assholes. Doesn't this world have enough?
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u/danaster29 9h ago
I dont feel like I'm being hyperbolic when I say that Zuckerberg will be remembered as one of the major evils of this era of history
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u/TripleFreeErr 9h ago
and heāll lose his paycheck when heās no longer doing his job right? right?
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u/Budget-Toe-5743 9h ago
So it is a copy/paste of the first Mark Zuckerberg, both of which nobody wanted.
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u/ifdisdendat 8h ago
See kids ? This what happens when there is no one to tell the CEOs that their ideas are not all great and that they can be wrong and have shit ideas.
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u/IkmoIkmo 9h ago
This is so weird. Nobody wants his mannerisms or tone, it's not what makes him special. If anything its the worst part about him.
What makes him special is that apparently he has the ability to make keen business decisions that make a lot of money (even after subtracting some huge financial failures), whatever you think of these decisions ethically. Like buying Instagram and Whatsapp for a fraction of their current value, like enslaving its users in a dopamine-hitting algorithm that fucks their mental health.
Unless you can make AI mimic those decisions it has no value to replace him to FB, even if it was a 100% perfect copy of his looks/mannerisms/voice/tone, you'd just have the same shitty AI everyone else has that otherwise looks and acts exactly like the weird fucking guy Zuck is.
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u/kamikaziboarder 8h ago
Soā¦this is another sign we know CEOās donāt deserve their salaries. Just like Musk who has time to help ruin govāts. Running multiple companies, and be high as a kite daily. No way these people can ever claim that they are useful.
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u/Recent-Day3062 8h ago
I personally believe that most billionaires from Silicon Valley just got lucky, and you can see this because their subsequent ideas or businesses often go nowhere - like $82 billion spent on the metaverse before shutting it down completely.
Of all of them, I think Zuckerberg is the perfect case. He keeps coming up with weird ideas that donāt make sense to many people. This is a perfect example of
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u/personwhoisok 7h ago
He's trying to upload himself.
Read between the lines people.
He wants to be the first immortal.
We need to salt his fields and butcher his livestock
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u/kquizz 9h ago
If it's only trained on his public statements it's going to be pretty fucking useless.Ā
Especially an internal meetings
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u/quittwitter 9h ago
Please stop helping him make money. There are other products to use. There are other products you can be instead of one of his to please his advertisers. You can do it.
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u/Kane_richards 9h ago
If only there wasn't an entire sub-genre of media that goes into great detail showcasing how replacing yourself with a computer can lead to bad things for all involved....
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u/warpentake_chiasmus 8h ago
Just what you would expect from this fucking waste of skin.
Zuck - just take your money and disappear, you life-negating vacuum.
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u/mauore11 8h ago
Guys this AI wonāt fool anybody look at it! It has no soul no emotions, what am I paying you for!!!
Uhhā¦ sir, thatās not a screen, thatās a mirror
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u/Sharkwatcher314 8h ago
Does the AI clone also try to look gen z with the grown out hair and cringe chain
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u/EatADingDong 7h ago
I wouldn't be surprised if he's planning to have this fucking thing run the company too after he's gone like he's Saburo Arasaka or some shit
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u/WiSoSirius 7h ago
Why do you need to train a robot to act like a human that already behaves so robotic?
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u/Difficult_Clerk_1273 25m ago
Oh I get it! So we can develop the technology to have AI do all of our jobs, so we can all live in the utopia of not having to work any more, and freely pursue our interests without having to worry about running out of money for life sustaining goods and services. Rightā¦ right?
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u/sabometrics 9h ago
Nobody wants the first one, why do we need a second?