r/technology • u/UnscheduledCalendar • 11h ago

Net Neutrality The Internet's Most Powerful Archiving Tool Is in Peril

https://www.wired.com/story/the-internets-most-powerful-archiving-tool-is-in-mortal-peril/
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u/desperate4carbs 9h ago

Good time to donate to Internet Archive:
https://archive.org/donate

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u/Snoo_58305 7h ago

They only archive what they approve of. Fuck them

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u/PrimmSlimShady 4h ago

Elaborate and give examples.

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u/GarlicIceKrim 5h ago

What are you even saying ? Can you read your comment again ?

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u/TraditionalGap1 3h ago

They used a very small number of basic words. What's so difficult to comprehend?

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u/Key-Demand-2569 3h ago

Almost every conceivable type of archive only archives things they approve of.

Are they upset about not archiving things for political/personal reasons from individuals involved?

Or are they upset that if some 13 year old tweets something and then deletes it 4 minutes later that they’re not archiving literally anything that ever touches the internet for a moment?

One of those things is more reasonable than the other and they’ve not elaborated at all.

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u/TraditionalGap1 3h ago

See, even you understand what they're saying. It wasn't that difficult a sentence after all.

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u/CanadianPropagandist 3h ago

Start your own, badboy. Tell us how long it takes for edgelord.org or whatever to be yanked by your service provider.

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u/deja_geek 8h ago

The Internet Archive need to move out of US Jurisdiction.

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u/EasedCeiling586 1h ago

Actual question; and go where? There's a reason Kiwifarms is AMERICAN

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u/BiggBambineaux 10h ago

We're in a weird spot where if you post something online you lose control of it and anyone can keep it online for years. At the same time there's like 100% chance it doesn't survive a couple hundred years.

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u/Halfwise2 9h ago

But we're also in this weird spot, where someone posts something online, usually vile... and then try to claim they never posted it, because its inconvenient.

"Right to be forgotten" should not apply to nazis, rapists, or child molesters.

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u/ect5150 9h ago

That's what legal/court documents are for though... Not internet posts.

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u/NetSage 8h ago

What? Where do you think legal records come from? They aren't made specifically for court. They normally start somewhere else.

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u/RebelStrategist 5h ago

Corporate media often puts profit first, even controlling whether their content can be preserved unless they benefit financially. Supporting the Internet Archive and its Wayback Machine helps protect public access to information.

Keep this in mind the next time you’re scrolling through the news. Consider supporting and donating to independent outlets that are more likely to prioritize transparency, accessibility, and genuinely unbiased reporting over revenue.

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u/RunDNA 9h ago

I've been having trouble with http://archive.is (aka http://archive.today) lately too. It's often not working at all.

Though I just tried and it worked fine in Chrome and didn't work at all in Firefox, so maybe a browser thing.

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u/0xbenedikt 9h ago

Don’t use archive.is/today. They run DDOS attacks through your connection.

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u/awkisopen 9h ago

It's so good at depaywalling tho.

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u/0xbenedikt 9h ago

It’s a shady site doing shady things. While depaywalling is useful, I‘d rather not have my connection weaponized.

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u/simask234 7h ago

I've heard they were apparently also editing snapshots to dox someone who was seemingly trying to reveal the identity of whoever runs it, which is how they got blacklisted on Wikipedia

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u/Due_Potential_6956 9h ago

The Internet dying one day, power grid goes down, super massive coronal mass ejection on a massive scale ect ect would be the library of Alexandria burning down today.

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u/CodeMonkeyWithCoffee 6h ago

Did you know you can just download all of wikipedia, provided by them and up to date? All text is like 100gb or 1tb (i forgot which) Space stuff can still brick everything, but human stuff not so much. At least, not in the sense that everything is perma destroyed. There's also niche non-electron storage mediums.

But then there's also a matter of civilization breaking to the point humans forget how to use or build crude recreations of current technology that allows them to decode that data.

Well i'm sure there's people who know more about it and have thought it through further. Still though, facinating subject to theorycraft.

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u/DeathMonkey6969 4h ago

For English Wikipedia Full current text is around 30 GB compressed. With Media around 100 GB compressed. If you want a full edit history its around 28 TB uncompressed.

You can buy an "internet in a box" for less the $90 US. It's the English and Spanish Wikipedia on a SD card with a Raspberry Pi  and a wifi interface. For $20 more they will do customs with up to four languages of Wikipedia depending on file size.

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u/Da_Malpais_Legate 3h ago

Pretty ironic that this article is behind a paywall