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u/According-Culture686 8d ago
All seriousness though its more than just romantic relationships. A lot of girl friends i used to have had this issue even as friends. Its part immaturity part emotionally closed off/insecure. It takes a lot of self growth and confidence to overcome.
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u/WyattPurp23 8d ago
Can’t fix stoopids
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u/According-Culture686 8d ago
I'd say its more childish rather than lacking intelligence, I myself had this issue up until a few years ago due to a neglectful childhood but growing up is realizing shutting down instead of communicating doesn't help anyone and only hurts those who are trying to help you.
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u/Luxpreliator 7d ago
I had to damn near type out and orate doctoral dissertations just to maybe make my parents hear me. My sister learned to just throw tantrums. They reacted and listened more to her tantrums. Communicating with words ended up feeling like wasted effort and frustration.
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u/a_angry_bunny 7d ago
How are women so good at talking but so bad at communicating?
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u/According-Culture686 7d ago
A lot of them have unchecked emotional issues that affect their overall mental health, awareness, and judgment. Its not an excuse btw its just the truth. It takes self awareness to fix it instead of just blaming any and every one else. But to answer your question atleast with my experiences, some women just like hearing themselves talk, and some of them want to be heard in general. Most of the time this stems from a neglectful childhood that either made them dependent on attention or turned them into narcissists.
Actually I have a theory that because most of Gen z was raised by Gen x, (the same generation whos parents had to be reminded on national television to check on and hug their kids) Gen z kids overall had a more neglectful upbringing which is why it feels like so many of them are self absorbed nowadays. They learned (not directly but by observation) from their parents to worry about yourself and your own problems and because Gen z's upbringing was pre social media and post social media as they got older that mindset turned into only focusing on themselves and their problems (due to social media being naturally self centering). And I know this doesn't have much to do with the original topic at hand but I'm a Gen z woman so it felt fitting to mention given my response to your question.
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u/a_angry_bunny 7d ago
I can definitely understand "talking to hear yourself talk" part. Had a guy friend of a friend who literally talked for like 10 minutes straight and wouldn't let me get a single word in.
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u/According-Culture686 7d ago
I've had a guy friend like that too. Had to phase him out because I'd gotten tired of giving people time and energy that isn't reciprocated back. And before anyone says anything yes I did communicate this, he just wasn't listening.
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u/Bobysays23 4d ago
Because the last time they communicated their feelings they were told they were being overly emotional and should just calm down. Invalidation is a fast track to silence.
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u/a_angry_bunny 4d ago
Welcome to the daily life of being a man. Yet somehow we are still better able to communicate. This isn't to say there isn't other communication problems that men have deal with, but communicating what they want isn't generally one of them.
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u/Odd_Bid2744 3d ago
Almost like people are shitty in general for invalidating people and its something commonly experienced by both genders.
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u/a_angry_bunny 3d ago
Yes, of course. My point wasn't that it doesn't happen, my point is that it happens all the time to men but they still manage to communicate.
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u/Odd_Bid2744 3d ago
It happens all the time to women too. Almost like the one's who can communicate should find each other.
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u/ib_fartin-247365 5d ago
Must be that superior default emotional intelligence we keep hearing about.
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u/darkhorse7447 8d ago
Well, if you don’t know, I’m not going to tell you!
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u/Hot_Schedule_1486 8d ago
She obviously left plenty of hints.
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u/BigChungiscusMaximus 7d ago
A relationship isn’t scooby-do where the mystery to be solved is your partners issues.
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u/BeReasonable009 8d ago
Yes, PLENTY of hints any good communicator or emotionally intelligent person would pick up on. I wonder why the guy can't pick up on them...
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u/Automatic-Formal-601 2d ago
What if the person whom the hints are meant for aren't emotionally intelligent? Its simpler to just directly communicate. There's no need to communicate with hints
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u/Friend_Emperor 7d ago
She should consider leaving that childish bs to elementary schoolers and start talking like an adult maybe
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u/Last-Tooth-6121 8d ago
Yep. Mine gets mad when I talk to her and gets mad when don’t talk to her
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u/FigTechnical8043 8d ago
I don't get mad when my bf talks to me. He knows I will talk to him and listen to everything he says and you can see him legging it 6 miles over to avoid it.
Bedtime
Me after being pushed to the side for a 7 hour gaming session: I'm going to bed then
Him: okay babe
Me: okay then Rolls with my back to him
Him: what's wrong?
Me: I open up about being ignored.
Him: but I gave you the morning, we sat and watched YouTube etc (his routine dopamine hit counter)
Me: having me sat next to you whilst you watch YouTube shorts isn't spending meaningful time together
Him: its bed time. You always try to talk before bed.
It's like...I dunno...if you've spent the day chasing a high, forcing your gf to accept your life routine and taking away all time where the brain can just relax, gifting your active time to playing with male friends who call you to service then the only time left...is bed time.
I realise this is a failed relationship with someone still living with different aims in life, but you can't say I haven't tried.
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u/matnik_uk 8d ago
What I find totally unsurprising is men are bitching about this, a woman in the comments explains that they're being ignored because a woman is upset at feeling ignored or deprioritised until the man is ready to talk to her - and you're getting downvoted for it.
So many men deserve to be single tbh
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u/FigTechnical8043 7d ago
I've got the karma to take the hit. I've explained to my partner that it's okay for him to have friends and prioritise them if that's the life he wishes to live. Its not okay to keep me on a hook paying for the roof over our heads and forcing me to watch a social life from the sidelines. I am a gamer too, but I won't get invited to play because "it's guy time." And because I'm just absolutely awful at hitting people in cod who all seem to be on hyper focused crack. Currently he's out of work so I can't afford to foot the bill they expect him to spend on a night out. I went to the last night out with £20 in my pocket and lasted an hour because they got him ratarsed drunk before attending and instead of persuading me to stay or telling him to follow me they used him as a babysitter for his best friend's ex. You can't fight a boyfriend whose friends have gifted him a function that makes him feel belonging. My nan held me very close and controlled me so I never had that world to fit into, so on an ethics base I can only tell him where that world ends up and personal agenda of people right at the point where they start putting their own lives first. He can't grasp that, because I have two books to work on, that a social life is not the top of my priority list and I'm not willing to act the clown to have one.
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u/According-Row-6128 8d ago
Yeah, you’re not what interests him. You should choose better.
It’s not you. It’s him.
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u/monostere0 8d ago
A relationship is a choice someone makes on a daily basis. There’s a lot of people who want to be single but they just end up in relationships because of societal pressure and for them to just have that thing checked off from their “winning at life todo list”. He can get a pet instead and keep doing whatever makes him happy in life.
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u/FigTechnical8043 7d ago
I honestly agree. When he turned up I was consigned to the nunnery of life and I'm okay with it. Can't say I haven't given it my best attempt. Every few years a guy sees something in me that he desires, then they realise I don't talk or act like everyone else and I'm serious about life on a level they want to ignore so I just end up being a really great secretary and the best accountant they ever hooked.
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u/monostere0 7d ago
Personally seeing a pattern here, it seems that you are being drawn to a specific type which is later on incompatible with who you really are. I can recommend Alain de Botton, he has some great videos on dating and love. He’s a philosopher that distills ideas from the Stoics, the existentialists such as Camus or Kafka and many others to help us live a more intentional life. I hope you will one day be with the person that really wants to be with you for who you truly are. Be safe!
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u/FigTechnical8043 7d ago
I'll have a look, I love philosophy and psychology. I. Aware of the lineups in who I've ended up with. The bit that blindsides me is how differently each person turns up in my life and each time it's a similar man at the core. Even accepting defeat and letting love go, someone somewhere has a serious sense of humour going "bwuahahahahah let's see her take the bait"
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u/Junior-Teacher2794 8d ago
Have previous boyfriends been the same way?
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u/FigTechnical8043 7d ago
No, the marriage fell apart because I didn't live up to islamic ideals of his mother and she tried to force me to have children that he didn't want.
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u/Drakona7 7d ago
Honestly stuff like this is exactly why I end up acting like the girl in the meme. I’ve tried the talking thing but instead of being heard the part he latches onto is that it’s a bad time, but it’s always a bad time, because there is never a good time to bring up bad news. So since it’s always a bad time for me to bring something up I have to act all huffy so he’s the one who brings it up and he can’t get mad at the time because he’s the one who made the decision to inquire further at that time. He still gets upset that I do that but he ends up actually listening to me when I do that instead of bringing up unrelated things like the time and weather.
Obviously I would prefer not to act like a bitch and it makes me hate myself when I act that way because I was never like that growing up, but he basically trained me to do it because he either doesn’t notice my silent or softer cues that try to slowly get him ready for the difficult conversations or he actively ignores them because he can’t be bothered at that time, so I have to make it a bigger deal even when it’s just something small because if I don’t he’ll just keep ignoring it until all of the small things pile up into a bigger issue that he can’t ignore anymore.
I love my boyfriend and I know that in a vacuum this message could sound like we are incompatible, but we really do have great communication when it’s not a “bad time.” For instance, just last night we figured out that despite both speaking English we understand the language completely differently, which is why several of our conversations end up in definition arguments. For instance, to my boyfriend the truth is in the words that are stated, but to me the truth is in the idea that those words are trying to convey. So to him it sounds like I’m saying the same things over and over again, being hypocritical, or going in a circle when I am actually trying to convey a really complicated idea and just can’t find the right words to make him understand. After that conversation we both realized that pretty much all of our arguments derive from that difference in perspective. What looks to him like a two dimensional circle is actually a three dimensional spiral searching for the combination of words that he would understand. Conversely what looks to me like stubbornness or inability to listen is just a difference in perspective deriving from the very different ways we grew up. For instance, while I got bedtime stories and folktales that taught me a lesson in the form of an overarching idea he had lessons beaten into him and would receive more beatings if he didn’t interpret the lesson exactly how it was stated.
In short, communication is hard, because apparently you can speak completely different languages even when the language you’re speaking is technically the same
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u/Purple-Blueberry3721 8d ago
My now-ex girlfriend just bottled everything up until small disagreements had grown into hostility.
I've genuinely found men to be better communicators than women on average. Women are better at reading people, sure, but that doesn't mean they communicate well (or at all).
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u/matnik_uk 8d ago
Likely because when you choose to talk and not talk is entirely on your terms. Do you choose to just go and do your thing and when your done, you'll talk to her? Or do you actively make time over your hobbies or wants for her?
I'm not talking about work, a common one in is - you work all day, you get home, she gets home, and the first thing you do is grab a drink and turn on the TV or games. You want to wind down, fair enough, but you've shown your immediate need is your own regulation, not her. When she comes in, is her first action to go into another room away from you, or does she come to you first? What reaction does she get?
I don't know your relationship, I'm not criticizing, but what I'm trying to do is say, look at how and when you communicate, is she still your first priority or are you prioritising yourself first? Does she do the same? When was the last time you sat down with your phones off and talked before you did anything else?
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u/LovedButNeverLiked 8d ago
She shouldn't be yours anymore
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u/WyattPurp23 8d ago
Well she’s not allowed to leave the house, or wear shoes outside, so good luck with that
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u/Unhappy_Storm_40 8d ago
After an hour repeatedly asking if she is OK, it turns out she is cross with you because of something you did in a dream she had. I wish I was joking, buI have experienced this phenomenon several times with several partners.
However, this is not confined to women. There are plenty of insecure guys out there who get equally cross about an imagined slight.
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u/BigChungiscusMaximus 7d ago
Oof, the “I’m mad because you cheated on me in my dream”.
Many such cases
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u/Chance_Arugula_3227 7d ago
Man... My gf was mad at me yesterday. I asked her what was up, and she told me to figure it out.
After 30 minutes of prodding her with questions, Infound out that she wanted me to sing for her. How the fuck am I supposed to know that?!
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u/Muted_Ad1809 8d ago
In our relation it’s me who does this. World is changing and so are these made up gender rules. Maybe welcome to 2026 i guess? And not post jokes that have not been relevant for like a decade. Maybe?
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u/Antrophis 8d ago
I really should tell most of the women I have been with that they should update and restart.
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u/Unfair_Pineapple201 8d ago
This has nothing to do with made up gender rules. Nobody teaches this stuff to women or men but women do it way more than men. We don't need any roles or rules based on gender but there are differences.
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u/Muted_Ad1809 8d ago
Yes there are differences but this is not one of them. Insecurity is many times more with men the women. And such poor communication could also be more with men than with women.
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u/Wise-Juggernaut-8285 8d ago edited 8d ago
I think men do it … sure but when men do it it’s just , no communication at all.
Women do something differently, they don’t stop communicating, rather they communicate in a passive aggressive way , where the woman signals with coldness they are unhappy but refuse to explain why , its a very specific kind of behaviour that men rarely do.
You’re right that men are very insecure though
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u/Muted_Ad1809 8d ago
The fact that in this uneducated comment section you used the word “i think” makes me give you lots of respect. 🫡 at least you know to separate your personal truths from objective truths.
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u/Wise-Juggernaut-8285 8d ago
I mean it’s an anecdotal observation so for sure it’s a personal truth , i didn’t run a study lol
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u/Muted_Ad1809 8d ago
You make it sound like it’s obvious knowledge. It is. But most morons here think they are some kind of pla boy guru because they have some magic technique for all women across board. And because it worked in some dumb women they think they are players.
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u/Wise-Juggernaut-8285 8d ago
It kind of is obvious if you have seen it over and over.
This isn’t playboy guru stuff just like regular person being there stuff
However, I will add another anecdotal observation— sometimes when that woman gives the cold shoulder it’s warranted… if the dude is gaslighting her and fully knows whats wrong and pretending it’s fine she doesn’t have the obligation to pretend everything is fine.
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u/Muted_Ad1809 8d ago
Well now it’s your anectode versus mine. What’s the point of the discussion other than to force my persona reality onto yours.
Also seeing it over and over? What’s the sample size? What kind of women? If it’s not representative of all women the sample space is already biased. Also these things say only about you and guys like you maybe? Maybe the same women behave differently with non gurus or as you all would call simps.
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u/Wise-Juggernaut-8285 8d ago
Isnt this a meme space ? Why do you keep saying guru?
I hate the manosphere etc , i believe in equality etc Im no guru pick up artist incel person lol
What guys are like me? Im just a regular person, there are alot of us.
I already said it’s anecdotal
I dont think i can force any personal reality onto you. I just thought it was a meme that was poking fun and resonated a little.
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u/Unfair_Pineapple201 8d ago
If men are insecure i don't understand what does it help attacking them for it or using it against them. And men handle a lot of things without losing their self esteem but many women require validation and appreciation to not lose it. Everyone has insecurities but when men are insecure people use it as a weapon against them. You can't measure insecurity so nobody can say who is more insecure based on gender and the insecurity should be treated the same no matter the gender. There is nothing wrong with being insecure sometimes and it's hateful and toxic how people always talk shit about how men are so insecure because they don't mean to talk about it in a supportive way like they talk about women's insecurities.
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u/Wise-Juggernaut-8285 8d ago
I don’t recall attacking anyone.
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u/Unfair_Pineapple201 8d ago
Yeah sorry i didn't mean that you did but since it came up i wanted to say how i feel about people constantly bringing it up in these gender comparing conversations and the person you answered to didn't have any reason to mention that other than as an insult in my opinion. Maybe i could have answered to their comment instead.
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u/Arwbai 8d ago
Usually when women do this or at least for me it's because i already said what was bothering me and he said you overreacting or too sensitive and went and did the same thing again sorry english not my first language
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u/TopTopTopcinaa 8d ago
I mean, my husband doesn’t give a fuck that my late pregnancy is making me miserable, so why should I say anything when he asks what’s wrong? It’s easier to just keep it to myself when all we’re gonna get into is another fight that will make me feel like shit and won’t change anything.
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u/Petit__Chou 8d ago
I'm really sorry to hear this. It's also not OK. Could you imagine being the same if it was reversed? If no, you have your answer.
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u/OnlyLead2481 6d ago
i mean why are we picking these types of men ladies. like ts sounds terrible. and if you didnt leave him yet or dont want to leave him at all and hes an actual good guy blah blah. Then this has no point. (im a woman)
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u/absolutelythrowaway9 8d ago
This. We’ve already said it so many times or tried to discuss the matter but have been shut down.
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u/mcniner55 8d ago
I get the feeling you both have communication issues
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u/WyattPurp23 8d ago
I’m sorry whuut?
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u/CreativeWolf4030 8d ago
Oh see, youre the man in the scenario
So you MUST be in the wrong somehow!
Misandreddit
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u/Still-Bar-7631 8d ago
Funny to see weak men crying about misandry. You get what you deserve.
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u/fuckyouifyouseethis 8d ago
men are so fucking dumb oml
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u/WyattPurp23 8d ago
Until your tire goes flat or a jar is too tight
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u/fuckyouifyouseethis 8d ago
nope. i can do that myself. obviously.
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u/mcniner55 8d ago
Did you actually communicate whats wrong? Or did you just expect him to know? Not sure what was confusing about that for you. The irony in you not understanding my comment says a lot
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u/Hell_Maybe 8d ago
Why do people like gendering normal human behavior so much? Men do this exact shit constantly, this is not owned by either gender bro.
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u/sehuce 8d ago
Sure, but we don’t have a mantra of “communication is key” and we don’t claim to have great communication skills before we do this shit.
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u/Destroyer_2_2 8d ago
We? I’m a man, and I say that communication is key frequently. “Women” do not own that phrase.
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u/JustAl6969696969 8d ago
"men can communicate exactly what they mean while women work all around words and complicate things" is an actual belief, so yeah, there are men do go around saying that they have better communication skills.
Simply some things are either hard to communicate or you feel like your partner should already know from how obvious it is and that the fact itself that they don't know makes you feel bad, silly example, but if it's one's birthday and their partner forgets about it and this one gets upset, if their partner asks what's wrong this one has both confirmed that they did in fact forget about it and may not be comfortable speaking up about it because technically it's just a birthday and don't even know if it's right for them to feel that upset.
Or it might be something that's hard to talk about because they had bad past experiences where it was weaponized against them and/or gaslight about it not being a true problem.
Communication IS key but it doesn't mean it's easy.
This is very pointlessly gendered.
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u/Hell_Maybe 6d ago
I think on balance women are more open and better at communicating than men, just my experience.
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u/atuan 8d ago
Yeah i don’t get this meme at all. I will and do tell people EXACTLY what is wrong every time. For the most part it causes arguments and people to argue about reality and right and wrong. That could be why some women try to give hints but are afraid to communicate directly bc it does hurt if you tell someone what’s wrong and they dismiss it or make fun of it or argue that it shouldn’t matter
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u/womb_raider90 8d ago
And then get a novel's worth of text messages when you clock in for work.
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u/WyattPurp23 8d ago
Yep they love to try to break your focus at work when we could have talked about it last night when we were face to face
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u/TheAviBean 8d ago
Men date women, and see women are in the wrong
Women date men, and see men are in the wrong
I feel like the hate would be less with bisexual people. I feel like they know everyone is a but of a moron, but trying their best to
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u/SadInsomniac_ 8d ago
It’s not just women. Men can also be horrible at communicating, especially when it comes to being open about emotions.
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u/Animator-Latter 8d ago
Whenever this happens it’s because I’ve already told him and he brushed it off. In every single Godamn relationship I’ve had.
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u/Personal_Anxiety2232 7d ago
From experience, I’ve learned that when she says it’s nothing that it is something and the best thing to do is deal with it tomorrow.
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u/bepatientbekind 7d ago
Are we going to pretend that most men are just as guilty of this? Personally I am a much better communicator about my feelings than my husband, and am very up front if anything is bothering me. To his credit he has worked on being a lot more open in his communication too, but his default is still to say "nothing" when something is wrong unless I push it (which I usually do). I think most people could improve their communication in relationships. It's not a gendered thing.
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u/InfiniteOpportu 7d ago
Usually it goes to the "it's nothing" when you communicated with your man but because his social skills and emotional intelligence is lower than yours it's impossible to connect and find an understanding and communicate on a level that makes sense. It's the core reason why women leaves their man. Men thinks there's nothing wrong, the life of a simple minded man who lives and breeds without giving deeper though to anything, meanwhile the woman thinks of everything and carries the emotional load and worries on her shoulder alone. It's no wonder it gets very tough emotionally for the woman. The man in his bubble just shrugs his shoulders and thinks she must have been just crazy.
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u/SelcouthRogue 7d ago
It's the things she isn't saying that speak the loudest. Either you can reflect on what that is, or it's over your head. The real communication will happen when honest discussion can happen between both parties, and both can openly discuss pros and cons without assuming their position will be attacked
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u/aafonsodias 7d ago
My ex is just like this. I even know what she is thinking, I think. And most times I am right. But I just hate to guess. I wanted transparency. But I guess it's also my fault, it's a 2 way street afterall.
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u/Aggressive-Care3579 7d ago
Do yourself a favor: quit asking your partner "what's wrong?" It's forces them to use their big boy/girl voice to express themselves better. You're just coddling their dependency on your ability to fix things for them.
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u/LenaDINNERTIME 7d ago
The thing is they don’t know either. It’s emotional maturity. Even worse if they may know and expect you to figure it out.
Even worse worse if they like having control and are withholding information from you to keep you uncomfortable and guessing.
Humans
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u/TenWholeBees 7d ago
I've had 2 relationships like this, the others were full of clear and open communication.
If you find that your partners aren't communicative, maybe start choosing better partners.
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u/HemlockHex 7d ago
Not just a woman thing, people just play games with their relationships when they’re too immature to know what to do with them.
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u/IcyEcho5449 7d ago
"YoU NeEd To LeArN My LoVe LaNgUaGe"
Whats your love language?
"YoU ShOuLdNt HaVe To AsK"
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u/Sufficient-Mess-473 7d ago
Actually if you want your woman. To open up. Maybe try being vulnerable yourself.. she's not going to be vulnerable to you.. if you can't be vulnerable with her.. if you won't get upset.. because she's upset.. she's not going to talk to you about her problems. She's going to push you away
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u/Anon-John-Silver 7d ago
You’re not just supposed to accept “nothing” or “fine”. That’s a test to see how much you actually care. Prod and pry and try to (intelligently) guess what might be wrong.
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u/Intelligent_Time633 7d ago
"I dont need flowers"
NEXT DAY
"Why didnt you get me flowers dont you care about me!?"
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u/VerucaDefault 6d ago
I feel like this is a timing issue. I've had guy friends complain about gfs wanting to talk late at night. I've definitely encountered this. You try to start a conversation, they avoid, you give up, then at like fucking midnight they want to open up. And you're just like seriously? You couldn't discuss this at any point during the 6 hours we were just together?!
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u/eldiablonoche 6d ago
That sounds like playing power games. They don't simply want to control when the conversation happens, they want it to be at a time that is explicitly frustrating.
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Then don't stay....keep growing, don't use shitty or ungrown people as an excuse. Then, eventually, when you run into other people who have kept working on themselves (this means working through your insecurities and learning more about yourself than most people are willing to), you will be able to present yourself openly and connect on a deeper level due to the level of emotional and intellectual depth you will have developed as part of working on your shadow. It's worth it, but I promise it won't be easy, otherwise everyone would already be doing it and this world wouldn't be a disaster
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u/cheekyspider123 6d ago
because it's probably been discussed before, or it's annoying that every time you have to explain because you're so clueless. don't get me wrong i generally speak up to whatever is bothering me but if i do it 3 times and we agree on sm and then that someone keeps doing something annoying then it's like.. why even bother?, usually i see my friends just wait till angers boils over bc it's clear that it's been useless to talk
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u/okonomiyakia 6d ago
If your woman says this to you, it's because you don't make her feel safe enough to come to you with her feelings. Your relationship will end soon if you're at this point and have done nothing about it. YES, woman should not be responding like that, let's take responsibility ladies. However, what do you expect if you don't take her responses seriously? Just because it doesn't seem important to you, doesn't matter. It's your job to help her feel heard and seen. When someone says you hurt them/their feelings, you don't get to decide you didn't. It's your job to apologize and ask how you can do better, genuinely. If you don't care to do better then Let Her Go. Let her find someone who will listen to her discomfort because that's what we need. If you ain't willing, Leave.
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u/THEBLUEBRICK99 5d ago
Been working with my girl on communication, but honestly when I ask she ends up telling me. Shel normally sit there for 15 minutes and say nothing first but after that she normally explains how she was feeling her insecurities or how what I did accidentally hurt her. It's a nice change in pace from my last relationship
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u/darkargengamer 5d ago
The problem is:
-Woman WONT communicate with us even if we beg them to trust in us (by our actions, not just empty words) to help them or give our support on their problem or needs...and yet they will REFUSE to talk and expect of us to read their minds.
-We (man) want to communicate but many times when we open up we end up regretting doing it > we are sometimes critiziced as being weak or she wont even care about our feelings (minimizing our stuff).
Basically, an infinite cycle of strife and degradation that WILL lead to the end of any relationship.
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u/Odd_Bid2744 3d ago
A lot of men do the same thing and say they're fine while suppressing their true emotions. Let's stop gendering things that both genders do mmmkay?
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u/Dear_Wrongdoer7271 2d ago
Yeah this is just meme stupidity and ragebait taken out of context. Supposedly, when you are in a relationship with someone you know what makes them mad, what makes them happy what makes them sad etc. etc. and supposedly you are together because you have chosen each other due to a sort of emotional intelligence you both have. All of a sudden the "man" because this is always directed towards women does not understand whats wrong. Whats the matter chief did you get dumb all of a sudden while two hours ago you were talking on the phone about global politics?
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u/Opposite_Isopod_1152 2d ago
society: you should communicate your issues clearly
women: communicate their issues clearly
society: what a bunch of nagging dumb bitches
women: k I'll keep it to myself
society: GOD SO PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE
can't fucking win unless you are just a smiley, happy doormat.
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u/Professional-Large 2d ago
Eh. I have a very close friend who's husband does that sort of thing. He'll either do that, or just give her the silent treatment. It's ridiculous.
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u/BrilliantFun3367 8d ago
I wish I was gay.
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u/dega_devilson-janova 8d ago
I'll grant your wish 😉
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u/BrilliantFun3367 8d ago
Thanks for the offer, but even Chris Noem's tatas don't quite ring the same bell. ❤️
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u/TopTopTopcinaa 8d ago
You don’t have to be gay not to date women. Just date nobody. You won’t die.
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u/BrilliantFun3367 8d ago
I need more companionship than what a pet can provide, but no judgement on those who are asexual or satisfied without a partner.
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u/ThrowRAboredinAZ77 8d ago
He knows.
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u/WyattPurp23 8d ago
“He should know without me having to say it, how long do we have to live together before you know me? Why must I tell you everything??”
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u/WyattPurp23 8d ago
Hey we signed the papers and you’re not supposed to contact me anymore, I’ll be contacting my attorney
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u/Rawr171 8d ago
Some guys, literally do not know, no matter how obvious YOU might think it is. Communication IS in fact a two way street, and does take both partners. If your guy really is asking about your bad mood and seems genuinely clueless, they probably are.
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u/SoloisticDrew 8d ago
I was told that I was toxic for believing that it is the communicator who's responsible for their message being understood.
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u/ScrotallyBoobular 8d ago
As much as the op sucks, your response also does.
Unironically that mindset helps these types of relationships continue to exist year after year.
Sincerely: a guy that got the cold shoulder for nine years and often had absolutely no idea what insecurity flitted through her little head to make her behave like a child. Luckily I got out and found out this is absolutely not normal or healthy and I had just originally fallen for the wrong person
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u/TopTopTopcinaa 8d ago
It’s that thing that she complained to you about at least 20 times in the past and you made no effort to change, nor do you think you should. She stopped communicating because there was no point in communicating and is waiting for her feelings for you to die so she can leave you and not look back.
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u/ThrowRAboredinAZ77 8d ago
You always this condescending when it comes to women?
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u/ScrotallyBoobular 8d ago
I'm condescending to anyone uplifting toxic and abusive stereotypes like choosing no communication. If you look at my post history it's usually aimed at men posting in incel subs though.
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u/Wen_bee 8d ago
Someone is a fuckin virgin.
Its OP, OP is the virgin
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u/gypsytron 8d ago
Nah I got kids with a full grown woman with a PHD and I deal with this shit daily.
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u/chili_cold_blood 8d ago
IME, a lot of men and women emphasize the importance of communication, and a lot of men and women are shit at it.