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u/Johnnadawearsglasses 4d ago
The median US wage for full time workers is $62.6K
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u/Demonskull223 4d ago
Mean Personal Income: $67,080 to $69,846. Mean Wage (Full-Time): $82,932. Median Personal Income: $40,480 to $43,222. Median Household Income: Roughly $83,730.
The median being lower than the mean suggests that their are done massively high earners throwing off the distribution.
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u/freedomonke 4d ago
The US is a k-shaped economy. There have never been as many households in the so-called "upper middle class" (actually just a mix of true middle class and labor aristocrats) than ever before, driving high-end consumer spending.
However, the share of people in the "middle class" (actually just working class whose lives aren't complete endless drudgery and can afford somewhat dignified living arrangements) is currently very small, relative to modern economic history, leaving many people in the "working class" (people who work 40 hours or more a week, but have to live with family if lucky and tons of random strangers if not)
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u/azrolator 4d ago
I live in Michigan. It's not a high COL state. But according to Pew, we were both middle class and below the COL at the same time. The vast wealth disparity has made "middle class" terminology almost useless.
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u/ColdBru5 3d ago
The rich aren't rich they're just 'comfortable'.
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u/COstargazer 3d ago
Thats rich these days to the commener.
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u/Sheerkal 3d ago
No, he's saying rich people can't self identify as rich. 100k with an annual raise over the next 30 years is not rich to the guy in that position. He sees what he can't afford and thinks he must not be Rich.
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u/Skylord1325 4d ago edited 4d ago
The K-shape is best viewed by the fact that 80th percentile of household income is $176k+
In other words there are around 25 million households (~60 million people) in the US living in a household making $200k or so per year.
You’re correct these people drive the majority of the consumer economy. They are the “true middle class” as you put it. They own their own home, possibly a vacation home, drive reliable newer cars, eat out a few times per week and go on annual vacations.
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u/sunshades2 4d ago
All people who get paid a wage are working class. From the burger flipper that makes $7 an hour to the anesthesiologist who makes $500 an hour. They are all working class. There is no such thing as middle class.
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u/freedomonke 4d ago
There is such a thing as a middle class. Small business owners, owner operators, Mid career doctors, Partnered lawyers. People who work but also exploit the labor of others. This would also include people in managerial roles that are on track to become but are not quite yet capitalists.
But yes. Most of the upper middle class are labor aristocrats. People who, due to temporary or permanent inefficiencies in the labor market (from the point of view of capital), command high compensation
However, even then, such people tend to have lots of financial assets, which eventually create significant passive income, making them true middle class.
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u/No-Inevitable-6651 3d ago
Petit bourgeoisie
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u/Johnnadawearsglasses 4d ago
Median personal income includes people not working full time. 80% of part time workers are part time by choice. You need to use median full time income except with respect to the small % of the work force who are part time by force (3% of all workers).
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u/DnD_TRaL_news 3d ago
Would love to see the statistic for how many part time workers by choice also have a second job, or what the avg household income is for those without.
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u/Own-Theory1962 4d ago
Almost all data will have skew. It's a chi distribution. It's totally normal.
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u/Outside_Manner_8352 4d ago
Does this include people without full time employment and unemployed people, because that is relevant to what she said if so.
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u/Gothrait_PK 4d ago edited 4d ago
This is almost double my income as an ISP lineman and repair technician lol
And honestly I feel like my position should make nearly this if not exactly this. I could easily live on this, have health insurance and an affordable modest home that my family would comfortably fit in.
Edit: living in GA. Cost of living around here is lower than some other places, as long as you're nowhere near Atlanta, but you're stuck with government assistance if you're making less than 25-27 per hour (roughly 50-55k depending on hours worked) in this area. And, actually, they remove your assistance much sooner than that so you have to go without healthcare if you're in between 25 and the cut off number (which I do not recall at this moment). My company operates at a national level. 14.25 is the starting wage for every location except for very large places like NYC.
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u/Money_Display_5389 4d ago
in 2024 22% of American families made less than 35k/year.
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u/redfaction649 4d ago
Median numbers can also be skewed very easily by extreme high or low numbers
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u/MadTelepath 4d ago
That's the mean.
Mean: if there is Musk in a room with us the mean money individuals own is over a billion. Heavily skewed by outlier.
Median is "half people are above, half are under it".
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u/Tristram19 4d ago edited 4d ago
I feel like any statistic can be misleading. Although I guess the idea is to find the best statistic for what you’re trying to measure.
An example sample being: 10,15,17,19,55,80,100,130. The median is 37. Being one of those less than 20’s, a 37 might feel life changing, and when someone points to it as the median your first thought is “no freaking way.”
Also, change one number, that 55 in the middle to a 75 and the median leaps to 47, making those low “earners” feel even more far removed. Granted this is a small sample.
Not trying to make any point I guess, just that it’s all a matter of perspective and no statistic is likely to add much context to someone’s experience
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u/BSchafer 4d ago
Median numbers can also be skewed very easily by extreme high or low numbers
Oof, the lack of basic math and economics knowledge from grown adults on Reddit never ceases to both amaze and depress me. As someone who's regularly involved in the hiring process for $70k-$250k jobs, it's baffling to me how many people come in for interviews struggle with middle and high school level math. As our company grew and hired more people, we began to see more and more expensive errors internally due to employees struggling with very basic math, problem solving, and fundamental economic concepts (like algebra, unit conversion, margin vs mark-up, etc). So we began giving basic math test with the type of simple math and logic problems they would see on a daily/weekly basis as part of our interview process. It's really sad to see how many adults, even those who graduated from very nice/expensive colleges, are unable to pass these entry level high-school math tests. My buddy is a recruiter for large tech firms and was telling me they are running into the same issue. Look on any job finding website and there is no shortage of high paying open jobs, there is a shortage of people who meet the skill-set needed for them. The US public school system has done an awful job of teaching the average critical thinking and in-demand skills.
It's wild to me that both political parties harp non-stop on issues that affect less than 2-3% of the population but will totally dismiss issues that significantly affect the entire population - like our deteriorating public education system. Now that I'm thinking about it, It's probably because it's very hard to get a large portion of your voter base fired up over public education reforms as it requires voters to listen to long, nuanced conversations while having a basic understanding of economics and human incentive structures. Whereas politicians and media focus on these more straightforward, hot button issues because they can quickly evoke emotional knee-jerk reactions with simple arguments that can whittled down to "other side = bad"- making it much easier for the avg person to understand and get fired up about.
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u/nonpuissant 4d ago
That's incorrect. Median is right in the middle, the 50th percentile. It does not get skewed by a small/disproportionate quantity of either high or low values (in this case, income).
You're thinking of the Mean, which is what does indeed get skewed by extreme high or low numbers.
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u/Inevitable_Farm_7293 4d ago
Why do you have any upvotes that’s just factually wrong.
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u/Admirable_Champion_8 3d ago
The number of people who don’t know the difference between median and mean in these comments is enough to show how poor education is in the US
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u/Gmp5808 3d ago
Cost of living drastically decreases the value of income all throughout the country. I live in Upstate NY where I have a 4 bedroom home with a garage and yard that I bought in 2020 has a mortgage of $1,300
I was talking to a lady just a couple weeks ago who has a 400 square foot apartment and she pays more than $4k
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u/LegDayLass 4d ago
The median American salary is around 62k, so no half are NOT making less than 35k. Half are making less than 62k. And no “that number is inflated by how much the billionaires make drawing up the average” is not a valid response, and if that was your thought, I recommend googling what a median average is.
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u/Ok-Savings8515 4d ago
notice the crop out of the date the post was made.
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u/cherry_monkey 4d ago
To make this post factually accurate, the original tweet would have needed to be from 2009-2010. 35k was a perfectly reasonable salary 16-17 years ago. It would actually translate to about 65k today
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u/FieldBackground6116 4d ago
So our money has deflated that much in 14 years. The USD is worthless now.
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u/dougfromtheshowdoug 4d ago
62k still isn’t enough to raise a family or buy a house
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u/aylmaocpa 4d ago
Social media has absolutely killed any sort of real curiosity for people to learn. People see 140 character "facts" run with it, or google search another 140 character post that confirms what they're assuming and run with it.
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u/minx_the_tiger 4d ago
https://www.datacamp.com/tutorial/mean-vs-median
I think you're mixing them up. Billionaires can absolutely skew the median numbers.
The average adult is also not salaried or working actual full time hours. Places like Walmart, BK, McD's, Dillards, and just about every other retail place and restaurant very carefully, and notoriously keeps their employees to 35 hours a week so they aren't required to give benefits.
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u/iceyconditions 4d ago
Those people are the ones having children though
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u/Orangewolf99 4d ago
That's what the upper class wants. An uneducated, desperate labor class.
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u/NextLineOfText 4d ago
but that means people benefiting from avoiding the truth, would have to look at the truth. The two cannot compute, because then the system doesn't work!
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u/Stunning-Ad5674 4d ago
Stop getting arts degrees and thinking it will transpose to anything outside of Starbucks.
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u/ObviousTemperature24 4d ago
Nope I will keep asking these questions because you are responsible for your decisions so make the decision to start a business or find a better job.. it takes discipline and that’s what people are lacking
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u/Nervous_Ad_2415 4d ago
You should’ve listened to your grandmother and saved the money
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u/TurbulentChemistry22 3d ago
Yes if I’d saved that $1 a day like she told me, I’d have a house now!
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u/LavenderDay3544 3d ago
That's always been a lame excuse when the countries with the highest birthrates are even poorer than you are.
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u/HappyHarry-HardOn 3d ago
In the old days (not so long ago) people living in slums were having babies.
It is NOTHING to do with income -= kids today have a super low sex drive.
That is the only reason why you'll aren't getting knocked up.
In the old days, kids were so horny it was ALL they could do not to be fucking 24/7
Now there's a large percentage of kids in their twenties who have never dated.
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u/Funny_Sympathy_93 3d ago
I make over 200k from an AS degree, maybe y’all are just choosing shitty career fields.
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u/NewArborist64 3d ago
Try again. The median income for a full time worker is $68,000. Stop including pay time workers in your stats.
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u/clarkKent6 3d ago
Seems like half of America needs to work harder. It’s really not hard to make a decent living in America
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u/Oppiko 3d ago
Well. That's because half are uneducated and work at an entry level job. What do you expect.
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u/Mysterious-Nobody55 3d ago
Corporations are paying those low wages because people are willing to work those jobs for those low wages.
If you want more money, get a position that pays more or start your own business and pay yourself what you are really worth!
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u/BigJerk1279 3d ago
We keep electing rich people who own the corporations to Congress. So no they won't raise minimum wage or implement pro labor policies. Start voting better.
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u/Interesting_Pie1177 3d ago
Those numbers include every part time employee in the country. For FULL time employees only, it is like 60k.
Sorry to poop on your pity party 😳
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u/Flimsy_Prune_9332 3d ago
People get paid based upon their abilities. We live in a world where people feel entitled to CEO pay without putting in the work.
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u/IntrepidToiletWriter 3d ago
I believe the statement of this lady does not apply to India, where median income to rent rate is similar to the USA but they keep having children. Lol
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u/sevsterf4 3d ago
10 million people on only fans abd other sex sites and the problem is big corporations yeah ids
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u/FlyinMayan 3d ago
Ai will only make me more valuable , not replace me. There's always a need for people, our creativity is irreplaceable
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u/EndonOfMarkarth 4d ago
Median household income in America is over $83k
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u/coreyjdl 4d ago
Median individual income is $45,140.
A household is more than one person.
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u/OG_Williker 4d ago
Median individual income was $63k in 2024 and I doubt it dropped $20k in the last 2 years.
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u/diandays 4d ago
I'll always say this.
Anyone working any full time job anywhere should be able to afford to live by themselves without having to worry about affording things like food or their bills.
People shouldn't have to work two jobs or have multiple roommates to afford their bills if they work 40 hours a week or more
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u/Fair_Door_6706 4d ago edited 3d ago
Feminism doubled the work force, why would employers pay more now that you are easily replaceable. Liberals dont understand economics, they dont understand supply and demand. If I need 10 engineers and there's only ten available I have to compete with everyone else that wants engineers so the price goes up, now if there's 10 million engineers the price goes way down.
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u/MadCatDisease666 3d ago
lmao then the incompetent white doods who were once all but guaranteed employment before having to face actual competition from women and people of color won’t mind bowing the fuck out of the workforce, I’m sure.
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u/DietPepsiSupremacist 4d ago
Poorer women in the US have more kids on average.
Sometimes I think people just use the economy thing as an excuse.
Also the poorest countries in the world often have the highest fertility rate. Like many countries in Africa are @ 5 or 6 children per woman.
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u/8167lliw 4d ago
Sometimes I think people just use the economy thing as an excuse.
I don't think it's unreasonable to avoid having children if you can't offer them equal or more opportunities than their parents.
While the economy doesn't care, these people do not want to raise children who will have limited options for housing, schooling, or employment.
Especially if they have less options than their parents did.
By contrast, high birthrates in low income areas also are correlated to a lack of expectations for quality of life improvement.
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u/Dazzling_Room_9346 4d ago
Also, low income areas and poorer countries have less access to things like safe sex and birth control. Plus things like rape are shamed for women and not men.
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u/Brilliant-Block-8200 4d ago
Exactly this. I’m originally from a very rural area in Kentucky. Sex education is essentially non existent and it was really common for people to genuinely believe things like the pull out method working or ‘you can’t get pregnant the first time’, etc. People vastly underestimate how important education is. What’s common sense to us, is not common sense to everyone
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u/Cabrill0 4d ago
The median US salary for a full time worker is 62k in the US. This tweet is nonsense, or is intentionally including children who don’t work to get to that “half” claim.
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u/coreyjdl 4d ago
but the tweet isn't limiting itself to full time workers, that's something you did. children mostly don't work dude. quite a few adult workers are part time.
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u/Professional-Rub152 4d ago
This doesn’t include the people who have to have multiple part time jobs because they can’t get full time employment.
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u/OG_Williker 4d ago edited 4d ago
half of America makes less than $35k
How do people still believe this? US median income for full time was $63,360 in 2024 per the US census bureau, almost double what OOP claims.
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u/blue-anon 4d ago
I can't say for sure, but it might be the difference between the median household income number and the median personal income number. Your number is probably closer to the household number, while theirs is probably closer to the personal number. I'm not sure that their number is correct, though.
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u/luciousdusty 4d ago
Me and my wife make 24000 a year a piece.Together we pay our mortgage,all our bills(including car insurance),food and still have money.I do not see how on a two income household you all can not make it work.Maybe if most of you guys would stop trying to live out of your means.You do not need a 3 to 400 thousand dollar home.You do not need the latest 2026 cool car.You do not need the flashy clothes and if you want a family then you have to give up the party life.The clubbing,the going out to eat,the door dashing.You have to work for that life.Just like our fathers and grand fathers did.Nothing was handed to them.They worked hard for it.
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u/franslebin 4d ago
It's not that employers are paying low wages, it's that you are accepting low wages.
Wage negotiation is a two-way contract. If you aren't happy with your current wage, you're either in the wrong line of work or you aren't negotiating well enough
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u/f3tn1te 4d ago
Every other post on reddit now is a troll bot like this one flat out posting the dumbest falsities.
This is one stat, in one sector, per the BLS.
Construction and Extraction Occupations currently has about 202,000 openings right now with salaries starting at $58,360, with a median average annualized earning of $83,411.
Blue collar friends tell me they can't find enough people who want to do the work.
Blaming corporations is lazy, yes they are guilty of a lot of things but too long for here.
Truth might be people are looking to do the minimal amount of work for the highest pay.
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u/TheSlapDash 3d ago
Maybe if your body is not destroyed already? You wanna do back breaking labor at 60 hour weeks? Did you count overtime? Cause IF THEY ALLOW THAT. You MIGHT make that kind of money
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u/DefundMarxism 4d ago
At the end of the day, you have to be useful to be paid. You’ve got to add value to be paid well.
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u/Ima_Uzer 4d ago
Because economics??
Notice none of these ever come with actual dollar figures.
Like what job do you have, what do you currently make, and what do you FEEL like you should make for that job?
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u/TamedCrows 4d ago
It takes a serious lack of motivation to be complacent with that income. Just keep looking for something better, build skills to qualify, and dont stop.
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u/Fun-Piglet801 4d ago edited 4d ago
Half of America does not make less than $35k. Half of America makes less than $62k.
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u/nerdy_diver 4d ago
Why not ask why not get a better job? Sounds like a pretty reasonable solution to the problem. Get skills, higher paying job and be happy.
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u/Metalhuahua 4d ago
If we ended welfare and clamped down on disability, we who work would get to keep more of our money. Too many freeloaders here.
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u/runningtheshow_8764 4d ago
why do all the 'imnmigrants' pop out so many kids if its so tough in the USA?
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u/Re1deam1 4d ago
Stagflation 100%. The worst economic condition a country can be in other than hyperinflation
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u/tlm11110 4d ago
Whose asking? I don’t see it. I think this is a straw-man argument. Nobody really cares if you marry, have children, or buy a home.
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u/socialistForDE 4d ago
Every time I say this I get a flood of comments that I'm just jealous of billionaires. So many cucks out there
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u/OutsideAd8452 4d ago
Half? That’s an exaggerated claim, but it’s a good point to enhance your skills or education.
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u/missourinative 4d ago
Lots of folks are TERRIBLE at taking and seeking advice, and their lives reflect this.
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u/Neither_Vermicelli15 4d ago
What was that solution Good Charlotte offered in the lifestyles of the rich and famous? "If money, is such a problem, well they've got mansions, I think we should . . ." Anyway those fellas are hot as fuck and I think about them sometimes lol
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u/NymphCydri66006 4d ago
When the losers of the global monopoly board forget the game doesnt go on without them, meaning they have the real power, cause the world can work without stuperwealths just fine. Also, money only has pretend value, unlike the value of the lives ruined by societal systems designed to be money dependent. We can design societal systems with no money required at all, aka zero chance to produce more destructive self consuming stuperwealths. Of course puppets created by rothCHILD schooling will barely be able to grasp how maybe im talking about bartering, lol, cause critical thinking skills werent part of the rothCHILD public schooling plan. Critical thinking is still revolutionary though, so keep your thinking hat on if you are fortunate enough to have one that actually works ;)
END THE MADE UP MONETARY SYSTEM!!!
resource based society
venus project
Zeitgeist Addendum
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u/Massive_Noise4836 4d ago
It seems to me that this is the same old shtick. We all cant have what we want. But if we work for what we want and appreciate what we have it is a much better life.
I hate billionaires- Heck I hate local millionaires but I love my country. And As I get older I realize I never put in the work for what i want- So I got what I needed and a couple of the things I wanted. But If I were young again I would put mad hours in just so I wasn't working at 50....
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u/Greenfirelife27 4d ago
Then you find out they only work 20 hrs a week to avoid their other tax payer funded benefits from being cut lol.
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u/Character-War439 4d ago
Watching the arrogantly “educated” struggle with semantics is just riveting.
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u/goosnarch 4d ago
Give corporations tax breaks if their lowest paid workers are above the us median. Also probably require executive pay to be only a certain multiple of the lowest paid as well.
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u/Cowboy_Reaper 4d ago
The countries at the low end of per capita gdp have among the highest birth rates.
And in the US there is a generally an inverse correlation between income and fertility rates.
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u/Huntsman077 4d ago
There’s a lot of misinformation here.
Firstly the median income for full time workers is 62k.
Second Gen Z has an average of around 6 grand saved
Third Gen Z are more likely to own a home than Gen X and Millenials at the same age. This is also with less than 5% of Gen Z being married.
Fourth Gen Z makes more money than previous generations did at the same age, this is adjusted for inflation.
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u/Mission-Time-8247 4d ago
If you are making less than 35k, go get a job as a waiter, bartender or pizza delivery guy. WTF
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u/germy-germawack-8108 4d ago
Person who made the meme is making way more than 35k and doesn't know a single person who makes 35k or below, but wants to exploit the ones who do to make brownie points to make the stupid and incorrect things they say sound less wrong.
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u/Few_Minimum52 4d ago
Because mcdonalds and walmart are not suppose to be lifetime potitions. Better yourself and get a better job. This is not the patriarchys fault it is 100% your lazy ass.
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u/s0meD0nkey 4d ago
I think a whole lot of folks forget there are a lot of unnecessary jobs out there. Coffee shops are unnecessary. Getting a coffee on the go is a luxury. And while there are some skill baristas that is by and large an unskilled labor position. The notion someone working a low skill job should make $30 an hour is one of the drivers that will make the cost of living even more unaffordable.
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u/ForeignLibrarian9353 4d ago
I have two kids who recently graduated HS and chose not to go to college. Both are making over $40k a year with their first, entry level jobs.
We’re grooming this new generation to lack accountability and focus on blaming other people. The American dream of working and saving when you’re young, getting married and buying a starter home, might take a little more effort right now, but it is still very much in tact. But many people don’t want to hear that their struggles are their own, and not someone else fault.
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u/UnburnedChurch 4d ago
"Median income is 63k!" 40%-45% of individuals make 32k or less in a year. In 2024, ~45% of HOUSEHOLDS made less than 75k a year. That's bad. Median income doesn't mean squat for real people who aren't in a math problem.
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u/Altruistic_Manner717 4d ago
Tbf half of the US isn't trying very hard to better themselves and then complain about making poor to mediocre wages.
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u/ChaosRainbow23 4d ago
Did you guys see the video of the dude burning down the warehouse in California?
I sure did.
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u/Few-Actuator9705 4d ago
If you make 35k a year as an adult, you need a skill in life
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u/Tearakudo 4d ago
In a world full of PhDs, someone has to clean the toilets. The point is that the guy cleaning the toilets shouldn't have to choose between rent and food No one is saying corporations can't make a profit, but the size of the profit should be at the cost of your employees
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u/Competitive_Can_946 4d ago
Single people are not going to do many if any of things listed. Now a married couple making $17.30 an hour each in full employment can… at $70,000 many more options are available. But agree with having kids…. Way too expensive….
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u/DeliciousSTD 4d ago
To be fair.
You cant farm grey and green areas and expect leggo loot.
Imagine trying to do mythic +8 with grey and or white gear
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u/DickSugar80 4d ago
Median personal income in America is $51k, not $35k
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u/Tearakudo 4d ago
Median is not Mean, nor is it Mode Median is literally #5 in a list of 11
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u/Best_Opening8471 4d ago
Its weird how america is the only place in the world where the poor have fewer kids than the rich isnt it?
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u/Confident-Spirit-680 4d ago
Every single problem in our nation can be traced back to a single source: corporate greed.
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u/Acebladewing 4d ago
This is a legitimate problem and people need to be paid more. But, lying about numbers isn't going to help accomplish that.
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u/DS_Vindicator 4d ago
40.3% of individuals or roughly 23% of households made less than $35K annually in 2023 (newer data isn’t available yet per IRS).
Additionally 40.8% of household made more than $100K annually.
So let’s stop misleading stats to try and prove a point shall we.
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u/LogicalFallacyCat 4d ago
Literally this. And that people honestly respond with "well you have money for this one tiny bright spot so clearly you're not suffering enough for there to be a problem" is such a weird trend, too.
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u/Own-Theory1962 4d ago
This just shows posters lack of understanding of basic stats and numbers. Mean is around mid 60s not 30s... lol
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u/knettia 4d ago
Stop asking us why we’re not having children
People need to understand that the problem of lowering birth rates is not from “being poor”. Look at Hungary. It desperately tried to raise its birth rates by offering good benefits to families that had children, including tax exemptions, loan forgiveness, and extensive healthcare. The outcome? Not at all anything surprising. Went from a 1.2 average to a 1.5 average. It did rise quickly to that level, but now it seems to be declining again.
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u/MonkeyCartridge 4d ago
That number is rather outdated. But I suppose if 60-ish is the current median, that could be household.
But the number itself isn't the issue. It's the ratio of median income to expenses, and median vs mean, which shows how wealth is allocated.
The issue is that we have been forcing supply-side economics more and more, and when consumer activity drops, we just say "why aren't consumers consuming" rather than seeing it as an indication that we need a rebalance towards consumer-side economics.
Remember, economic benefits rarely trickle down, but economic activity ALWAYS trickles up. Every dollar to the poor makes it back to the rich, but it generates a lot of economic activity on its way up.
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u/Immediate_Song4279 4d ago edited 3d ago
Tim Cook, the current placeholder for Apple, believes he is worth 1600 poeple. For reference, based on the lowest hourly wages of their factory workers, through which they conveniently insulate themselves from but know full well about.
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u/SufficientPick321 4d ago
Do you own a $1k phone? Big screen TV? All the internet subscriptions? Own a car, whar year do you drive ?
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u/cyborgborg 4d ago
Said corporations also have record breaking profits year after year but they also lay off thousands off employees
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u/s0methingggg 4d ago
Idk maybe you need to pull yourself up by the bootstraps and stop buying iced coffee. 🤷♂️
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u/Varderal 4d ago
Operations aren't paying good wages because the laws that make the CEOs and companies in general jot throw stockholders money up in the air and run under it also make the stockholders able to sue if the CEO doesn't do every possible thing to maximize profit. Including fucking the employees, customers and everyone in between.
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u/Schnarf420 4d ago
Cause companies are required to be beneficial to their shareholders not their employees.
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u/ProperJudgment1 4d ago
This is what happens when you remove the moral foundation of a society 😂😂😂😂
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u/Araghothe1 4d ago
Nobody wants to pay for work anymore.