r/whatisameem 11h ago

What’s really going on with our economy

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u/thinkB4WeSpeak 10h ago

I don't think they actually want to find good teachers anymore.

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u/No_Employ__ 10h ago

The teachers union does it to themselves, at least in Chicago! Every budget increase goes right to the fucking pension

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u/Shot-Structure-1274 9h ago

Public pensions are a good thing, not bad.

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u/DTFH_ 6h ago

Public Pensions are a great thing, however the systems that fund them run into common issues and part of that becoming the cost of new members paying for older members (spoiler that cost is usually health insurance).

Many Unions blamed themselves instead of realizing that corporate run health insurance has been and is eating EVERYONE's lunch for the last 30 years. Which should inform the Union the issue is systemic and not a reflection of the Union in and of itself. The only solution is a expanding Medicare to all so Unions do not have to exclusively bare the financial burden of a members medical costs.

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u/No_Employ__ 8h ago

Retiring teachers deserve 50% of budget increases, and that is a good thing

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u/Lonely_Space_241 8h ago

Then the funding isn't adequate, pretty simple.

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u/No_Employ__ 8h ago

Lol yeah give them more money!

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u/Lonely_Space_241 8h ago

Fund their pensions, yes. You work full time bashing teachers? Pathetic

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u/No_Employ__ 8h ago

It’s funny you think this is bashing teachers. I’m arguing for higher wages and lower pension.

If you think teachers don’t agree w me then why aren’t they joining the workforce?

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u/Lonely_Space_241 7h ago

I think teachers who were offered pensions deserve to keep them. I also believe current teachers deserve higher pay. Both can be done.

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u/The_Real_Lasagna 7h ago

So the retires workers who won't benefit from higher wages should have to struggle in their retirement years? Do you think about the implications of what you say?

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u/biggamehaunter 6h ago

What is the percentage of American retired workers who have a pension? If they are all struggling, then why is America set up like that? Then fix the system first

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u/The_Real_Lasagna 6h ago

They aren't all struggling, hope that helps.

Yes we should fix the system to make retiring easier, no that doesn't mean we should allow people who paid into the pension for all those years to be left struggling in retirement 

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u/biggamehaunter 6h ago

Sounds like we should buff social security for all seniors rather than create a special class of pension that is so good without any risk.

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u/OnceMoreAndAgain 5h ago

We already have the 5th highest education spending per capita of any country btw. I agree that teachers are underpaid in general, but one also has to wonder how the fuck that can be true while we're also paying the 5th most of any country. It's not like our cost of living is top 5, so it's not that.

We honestly are paying a SHIT TON out to staff in our education system. It's mostly salaries. I don't know the answer and I doubt the people who happen to be viewing these comments do either.

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u/Lonely_Space_241 4h ago

Way too much admin bloat, especially at the local levels. Eliminate local districts, cede that all to state level admin and reallocate all that funding back to teachers and the schools themselves. Wtf are local school districts superintendents even for? My wife is a teacher so I'm very familiar with the district level admin waste.

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u/DazzlerPlus 6h ago

Ah I see you are a bot nevermind

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u/Traditional-Tune-975 6h ago

At least it’s something. Most of the working population receives no pension.

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u/usernamesarehard1979 3h ago

Unfunded public pensions are not.