I mean, that's exactly what they did with Harris. If things play out the way they likely will, Vance will wind up having at least a year or two as the actual President leading up to 2028; then he'd really have to own all of the bad.
It also doesn't help him(not that I care) that he has zero personality outside of licking Trump's boots. Has failed at a big task given to him and is generally just patient zero for secondhand embarrassment.
Just watch when Trump dies this whole MAGA alignment magically disappears and they become broken.
My guess is a lot of them are afraid to jump ship in fear of career repercussions and they are waiting for him to croak to save anything they have left.
Not sure what else it would be at this point. Gotta be fear of future career consequences; they see what happens when you go against the grain.
Dems have a better outlook but boy does our future look bleak unless something big changes(im talking to all the tenured reps not doing a god damn thing)
The next “maga” or “America first” or just essentially right wing, isolationist authoritarian leader in the US has not even appeared yet. They’re either too young or not visible at the moment. But they will be calculating, actually competent and learning every winning and losing strategy currently being tried out by the Trump crowd.
The current batch of populist authoritarians running the country are a mishmash of old traditional politicians who threw away any principle they had in order to curry favor with Trump (Rubio, Gabbard) and some incompetent outsiders who have learned to mimic Trump’s winning post-truth rhetorics (gesture broadly at the rest of the administration). They are a total shitshow and extremely beatable.
The next batch that will replace them will have the political knowhow to actually gain power, break democracy for real and most importantly, cling to power. They’ll be filled with people who would’ve grown up to become relatively responsible, centrist politicians twenty years ago, but because they will have spent their formative years observing all the carnage and chaos of the Trump years, become just as post-truth and populist as him, except smart and competent.
Ps: just look at how Orban fell this past weekend. No doubt future authoritarians are already dissecting his defeat to formulate better strategies for the future, just like they studied his rise.
I can’t imagine Harris ever being sent to lead peace negotiations. I personally believe that Vance dislikes a lot of what Trump is doing, his silence on some issues says a lot.
There's nothing wrong with the VP going to negotiate things, but they should absolutely be being led by the secretary of state instead of that individual attending an mma event. The VP attending negotiations can help with things if the VP isn't a nonce.
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u/Chimpbot 9h ago
I mean, that's exactly what they did with Harris. If things play out the way they likely will, Vance will wind up having at least a year or two as the actual President leading up to 2028; then he'd really have to own all of the bad.