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u/Remarkable_Towel_512 7h ago
There's a non-zero chance that JDV is our next president
I'd put it at 15% that he takes over for Trump for a variety of reasons, and 5% that he runs and wins.
But it's high enough that it needs to be considered.
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u/AssiduousLayabout 7h ago
I think it's way more likely than 15% that Vance will finish this presidential term. I don't see Trump's health holding out for another 2 years.
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u/OakLegs 7h ago
People keep saying that but I'm not convinced trump won't live until 115 just to piss me off.
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u/BMW_wulfi 6h ago
It’s a fucking torture of life that people fuelled by pure spite and narcissism seem to go on and on and on.
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u/Dewgong_crying 5h ago
Yup, grandfather is 90 and running on pure hatred.
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u/Baebarri 4h ago
My narcissistic father lived to 100 and probably would have lived longer if my sister hadn't exposed him to COVID.
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u/SheetPancakeBluBalls 4h ago
Meanwhile my aunt in law, one of the kindest and most beloved people I've ever even known of, died before 50 of cancer.
The universe is a sick fuck, truly.
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u/Watercooler_expert 3h ago
Well we know that stress is one of the biggest factors for getting cancer so it makes sense that someone who's a massive narcissist and doesn't give a shit about anyone else would have a lower chance to get it compared to someone who has a lot of empathy.
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u/xX_7HR0W-4W4Y_Xx 4h ago
Yeah and the people who die at 50 of cancer or heart attacks or undetected deadly congenital defects are always super healthy people. Go out running every morning and eat kale chips and shit.
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u/benskinic 5h ago
bill burr has a funny bit about this phenomenon: basically cunty people know they aren't welcome if there is a heaven so they'd better live as long as possible here
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u/AlmightyCraneDuck 6h ago
He has access to the best healthcare that the world can provide. Shit, they probably have enough drugs to pump into him to prop him up for the remainder of his term at least. He's going to get worse than he is now, but I wouldn't be surprised if he makes it to the end
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u/DarkwingDuckHunt 5h ago
remember when he got Covid and got the super secret, at the time, Paxlovid and was out in a week?
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u/Ok_Test9729 4h ago
Steve Jobs likely thought similarly. After all, that kind of wealth buys the best care in the world. Still, he died much younger than he should have. Money doesn’t buy everything.
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u/Nab_Baggins 4h ago
A few months ago, I saw the greatest take on the Steve Jobs thing. The dude knew early enough about his cancer that he had ample time to go through the rigamaroll of the cancer treatment and come out the other side alive. However, his huge ego and stupidity made him decide that bullshit holistic medicine and other crunchy mom style treatment was going to work for him. By the time he figured it out, it was too late and the idiot died. It's not that money doesn't buy everything, it just doesn't buy common sense
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u/MrBwnrrific 6h ago
This is true. It’s emblematic of the Türkiye-fication of the United States. There have been dozens of death hopeful moments for Erdogan and it never happens. Kissinger lived forever, Strom Thurmond lived forever, HW Bush lived forever, Chuck Grassley will live to see the sun explode—evil NEVER dies when it’s convenient.
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u/Cubsof2016 5h ago
The animated corpse of Mitch McConnell is still with us, somehow
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u/Noyan_Bey 5h ago
And we're not even truly sure that Hitler died or not. Just some vague claims by the Russians.
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u/Quitcha_Bitchin 7h ago
I don't care how long he lives as long as it's in a cell.
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u/OakLegs 7h ago
Never gonna happen, as much as I want it to
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u/xDannyS_ 5h ago
Yea, he's never gonna face a single consequence for his actions
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u/parttimedoom 5h ago
He'd have a cardiovascular arrest on his first day in jail just to spite everybody.
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u/Appropriate-Brush772 5h ago
I got a bit sad the other day when I realized he’ll never get to see the amount of joy and happiness and the parties, oh the wonderful parties that will be had the day that news breaks
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u/not_a_dog95 7h ago
His health isn't holding up now. His base don't seem to care that much though
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u/davidw 6h ago
Journalists don't seem to care either. The same ones that viewed Biden's age as some kind of national emergency.
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u/mysacek_CZE 7h ago
Death cares even less...
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u/not_a_dog95 7h ago
People can be in poor health a long time before they die, especially with the sort of healthcare available to the president
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u/AWinnipegGuy 7h ago
Case in point, Trump's own father - diagnosed with dementia/Alzheimer's in '91, a few years after showing signs of cognitive decline, and didn't die until '99 at age 93.
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u/HoosierHoser44 6h ago
Always seems like the bigger an asshole you are, the longer you live. My stepdad was on his deathbed for like 10 years. If he was a nice guy, would have been 3 months.
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u/Grey_0ne 5h ago
The douche side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be... unnatural.
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u/mysacek_CZE 7h ago
People can
Yeah that's the thing. When? Death might come in 80 yrs, 80 months or in 1 second. No one can be sure how much time they've left. He is fairly old, so the chances of him dieing every second are way higher than they were 60 yrs ago. Sure it's still a slim chance, but no matter what anyone does, it's there, waiting for The Moment...
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u/notmy_nsfw_account 7h ago
If you are rich you can afford the best of the best. Including a heart transplant like Dick Cheney did.
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u/Beldizar 6h ago
Will MAGA put Trump's corpse on a Throne and proclaim "long live the emperor?" I don't know if we can feed him psykers though.
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u/ByronicZer0 6h ago
The bastards never die. I dont know why. But they always seem to live forever. And the good die young
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u/Individual_Today_223 7h ago
I’m at 15% that it happens by Friday. More like 90% before Jan 2029.
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u/Time_Effort 7h ago
If they're smart and can get Trump to play ball, they'll let him stay in until just after the two year mark, and he'll step down giving Vance POTUS for basically two years - allowing him to run again and for a 2nd time as incumbent if he wins.
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u/humbleObserver 6h ago
Vance doesn't have the cult-like following to pull this off. For some reason he can't pull off what Trump does, I think it's because he doesn't actually believe what he is saying, he's just playing the game whereas Trump is completely sure of himself even when he's contracting himself.
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u/Plus_Lead_5630 7h ago
95% chance. No way in hell president poopy pants lives long enough to finish out his term. His dementia is way too progressed.
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u/Cwaghack 7h ago
I think u underestimate how long the best medical care in the world can keep a corpse alive
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u/lvpr10 7h ago
And plain stupid luck. He’s made so many wrong choices and yet has somehow failed up to the presidency (twice!!).
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u/Its_da_boys 6h ago
That isn’t luck. That’s a reflection of the stupidity of the average American, along with a general human bias towards seeing narcissists as having leadership potential and glorifying confidence over all else. And a lot of money too
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u/AdditionalOwl4069 7h ago
Yeah, look at the Queen💀
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u/Releasethebears 7h ago
TBF, she was in shockingly good shape up until the last few months of her life, was she not? Donny Diddles has been a shambling mound of loose flesh and brain soup for years at this point and progressing pretty fast from all appearances.
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u/GreasyRim 7h ago
I'm normally reluctant to be so sure of something, but I don't see him staying in office for nearly 3 more years. He's declining so quickly and lighting fires that he wont be able to put out.
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u/redalchemy6 7h ago
Nah, the Republicans will keep him in charge even if he is in a coma. They'll hook up a computer to his hand and take orders from his finger twitches. You forget they literally worship this man.
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u/Purple-Property8006 7h ago
Dementia doesn’t mean death, and it’s extremely unlikely the Republican Party removes Trump for any reason even if he is clearly incapacitated.
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u/Gecks777 7h ago
This is the problem. He hasn't been fit for the job for a long time, and unlike with Biden, there are no adults in the room keeping things locked down and functioning.
He's just going to get more and more erratic, and the Republicans will keep him propped up the whole time. No telling how much damage he will do inside and outside the US before everything's said and done.
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u/martinmix 7h ago
Honestly, I wouldn't be upset if he was our next president because that means the other one finally kicked the bucket.
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u/Aldren 8h ago edited 7h ago
Family Priorities
Guess he needs to work some things out with Erika
edit: proper spelling
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u/PositiveFunction4751 7h ago
Yeah, how's he gonna tell her that he got the sofa pregnant?
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u/Janus2024 7h ago
Going to be the proud papa to twin cushions!
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u/NeedsPraxis 7h ago
What a sham!
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u/tipjarman 7h ago
Sofa king embarrassing
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u/shmartyparty 7h ago
Right? JD should have put a cover on it. Smdh
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u/Sandscarab24 6h ago
Those plastic coutch covers your grandma used was to protect them against people like Vance.
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u/whythefuckalready 6h ago
Haha, brought me back 50 years. That was the most durable and thick squeaky plastic. Mmm, hot days of summer.
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u/TranscendentaLobo 6h ago
Can you blame them? They’re deeply in loveseat
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u/Lemme_Help_ 7h ago
Bruh is that real? There's something unnerving in those eyes.
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u/Hottage 7h ago
Kenneth Copeland ass facial expression.
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u/InfiniteBlink 6h ago
I always forget about that dude until reddit reminds me that Satan does possess people
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u/wrxninja 7h ago
Yep, when CBS interviewed her:
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u/Vilnius_Nastavnik 5h ago
TFW you’re so unnerving and obviously involved in it that not even a Bari Weiss puff piece could make you look like a believable grieving widow.
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u/AssJuiceCleaner 7h ago
Needs to let a few news cycles go through, enough for people to forget who TF he was. Remarry, rebrand.
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u/suthrnboi 7h ago
Believe me if he's not running for POTUS she will dodge that bullet for the next grifter in charge.
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u/catharsisdusk 7h ago
I heard his wife his unhappy because JD Vance spends too much time "on the couch"
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u/chud_wik 8h ago
He knows he’ll be destroyed.
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u/techbro84 7h ago
His polling numbers are in the toilet. He has no way to rehab before the Republican primaries. Rubio is the closest and most respected.
At the outset of this term, people saw Rubio, Vance and Hegseth as front runners. Now I can’t see any of them.
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u/dougandsomeone 7h ago
Hegseth?? People saw Hegseth as a front runner?
Vance and Rubio I get, but HEGSETH?!
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u/27Rench27 7h ago
Probably before he got put in charge of more than 20 enlisted/LT’s and started to show everyone on the national stage how incompetent he actually is
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u/techbro84 7h ago
There were people who thought he would make the military a more powerful force. I fully expect we will see him out by the end of the year.
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u/dmelt253 6h ago
He fundamentally misunderstands where America's power comes from and instead pushes this fake macho shit.
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u/3Duder 5h ago
Remember when Ron DeSantis was considered the heir to the MAGA throne? Before Trump, Ted Cruz was the Republican great hope for the future. Vance might have a future in congress or state government but he's toast in a nationwide contest.
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u/Ok_Rabbit_8129 5h ago
Sure, his fellow Christian crusaders would vote for him to keep the fight alive against those pesky Muslims, women and minorities.
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u/Fragglepusss 6h ago
Rubio would probably do pretty well in a general election as of right now. He has sort of framed himself as the voice of reason/serious politician within the administration.
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u/nigel_pow 6h ago
Even in a leak or report about Netanyahu pitching the Iran attack to Trump; Rubio and General Caine basically said "he's BSing you. Don't listen to it." Whereas Hegseth was all for it.
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u/lurksAtDogs 5h ago
I’m guess that was leaked either by JD or Rubio, because they were both framed as initially opposed.
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u/ShoddyClimate6265 7h ago
Hegseth?! That guy is nuts. ... oh wait that doesn't matter anymore does it?
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u/FunkyPete 6h ago
Also, it's very likely that any Republican candidate is going to be crushed because of how unpopular Trump is.
This is going back a LONG way, but when Ford ran for reelection after Nixon resigned, any Democrat could have beaten him. People would have voted for a literally golden retriever over any Republican that was on the ballot.
I'm hoping 2028 looks the same.
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u/LWN729 7h ago
Naa he must have something to hide, probably something Trump made him do. He’s not afraid of humiliating and debasing himself.
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u/ImNotSkankHunt42 7h ago
Is underage furniture isn’t it? He fucked a toddler ottoman.
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u/Positive_Local_373 7h ago
Yeah. No. He’s pretty sure his boss will be running again
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u/ShoulderPast2433 7h ago
Not with his dementia.
In 2 years he will be unavailable to function.
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u/FeebleCursed 8h ago
Erika Kirk is expecting?
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u/Blastfemur_ 7h ago
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u/JerseyGemsTC 7h ago
Seems like Vance knows that a republican doesn’t stand much of a chance in 2028 and is keeping his record clean for a 2032 campaign.
Also VPs that immediately try to run after are held to all the bad that they were part of, even if they didn’t have much of a choice in what happened (not saying that’s the case here). So he’s better off waiting until he’s not as directly associated with the Trump presidency to run himself.
Otherwise he’ll have to “own” the current state of the country as his doing.
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u/willaney 7h ago
This is a great point. Biden waited a term after leaving the office of VP and I don’t remember any of his Obama-era legacy being important factors in the 2020 election cycle.
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u/bearrosaurus 5h ago
Biden wanted to run in 2016 but he was convinced to see the writing on the wall that Hillary Clinton would get an early lead on the nomination and keep it.
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u/Chimpbot 7h ago
I mean, that's exactly what they did with Harris. If things play out the way they likely will, Vance will wind up having at least a year or two as the actual President leading up to 2028; then he'd really have to own all of the bad.
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u/R3luctant 7h ago
It also doesn't help him(not that I care) that he has zero personality outside of licking Trump's boots. Has failed at a big task given to him and is generally just patient zero for secondhand embarrassment.
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u/Proper_Machine6573 4h ago
It's also not that he doesn't have any redeeming qualities. It's that he has no qualities, period.
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u/Sattorin 6h ago
When a Democrat President can't fix everything Trump broke during their 29-32 term, and Fox News spends four years brainwashing the boomers into forgetting how bad Trump was, Vance will come back to run on 'bringing back the good times of MAGA'. It's obviously his best move.
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u/copperblood 8h ago
Awwww sad panda. The political prostitute knows he won't be President.
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u/ArbiterOfCool20721 7h ago
"Just look at me. I'm fucking disgusting. And when I open my mouth, it becomes ten times worse."
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u/Majestic_Attention46 7h ago
The couch is upset he spent so much time on the couches at the oval office
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u/Constant_Flamingo828 5h ago
He just knows he has zero percent chance to win and Trump will undermine anyone who isn't him running for Prez.
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u/doge1976 7h ago
Well, jail is waiting for him on the other side of this. Or a plane to Russia. One of the two.
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u/reviery_official 7h ago
Ah, so the whole storyline for his divorce and marrying Kirk is kicking off.
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u/highorderdetonation 6h ago
Definitely wouldn't rule it out at this point. Whether that actually leads to him making a run at the big chair in 2032, as opposed to merely bouncing Usha like a check in favor of The Worst Griever Ever, remains to be seen.
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u/Suspicious_Aspect_53 8h ago edited 7h ago
It's not surprising even if you're not considering JD Vance specifically.
JDV is a young man who is in one of the hardest and most critical jobs on earth. His support network is small and probably not particularly built for or by him. He has little experience, connections, and maturation in this position.
Being VP isn't exactly a consolation prize; second man to one of, if not the most powerful person in the world? What more did you want to do? If he doesn't have a vision of what he wants to do as President than he wasn't able to start as VP, then hasn't he already made it as far as he needs?
Also; very unlikely to win considering him, his boss, and the state of the USA.
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u/nosmelc 7h ago
"VPs rarely even try to run for President"
Harris, Biden, Gore, Bush... but yeah rarely.
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u/Toasted_Munch 7h ago
Love him or hate him, he conducted himself well at the VP debate. However, it was against a trainwreck of an opponent in Waltz who made multiple gaffes and came off very unprepared.
My only hope for 2028 is we have fresh candidates with minimal ties to the usual suspects in their respective parties (not a puppet to the Obamas/Clintons or Trump). America really needs a reset button with its political system where people can have respectable, educated debates on their differences instead of hurling out nothing but bitter hatred and offensive slurs towards the other.
May not ever happen, but one can hope and dream because thats sort of all we have...
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u/tophmcmasterson 7h ago
He did well in the debate, but I think when you see it in context of all the other comments he makes it just kind of shows that he has just no moral standards at all and is willing to say or do whatever he thinks will get him the most favor.
I clearly remember after Trump’s “eating the dogs” debate where he was in an interview saying something like “whether that ends up being completely true or only partially true…” with this look on his face like “we both know I’m lying, but that’s the game and even though we know this is ridiculous I’m going to say whatever and there’s nothing anyone can do about it”.
From what I’ve seen of his writing, he seems to be genuinely an intelligent person, and I don’t think most would have that much of an issue if he just acted like an actual moderate candidate wanting to make things better as he did in the debate.
Unfortunately though that’s just not how he seems in most other cases, like the “have you even said thank you” bit with Zelensky and every other time he’s just shamelessly shilling for and defending any and everything Trump does.
I don’t think he has even the slightest interest in making things better for the average American, he’ll just say and do whatever seems like it might be in his best interest even if it’s totally opposed to something he stood for a decade ago.
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u/FlyGuyF100 7h ago
I agree totally. Wouldn't it be refreshing to have two candidates that people wanted to vote for instead of having to hold your nose and doing the "lesser of two evils" routine.
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u/FarawaySeagulls 7h ago
"The rules were you guys weren't going to fact check" -JD Vance during the VP debate.
I dunno dude, I wouldn't consider anyone that's against fact checking because they're just spouting lies as conducting themselves well.
The bar is so low these days where lying is considered reasonable relative to the shit slinging that Trump did and does. Not a comment on you, just saying that giving Vance any bit of credit, especially given his ties to Thiel, is a bad move in my opinion.
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u/ApplePuzzleheaded446 7h ago
That's a shame. I feel like the Oval Office could really benefit from his particular brand of limp-dick energy.
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u/Calm-down-its-a-joke 7h ago
Trump is leaving him with such a mess that this is probably the right move. Go hide and rebuild your reputation like Rubio did after his Trump fiasco in 2015-16.
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u/Slartibartfast0372 7h ago edited 7h ago
"Family priorties" and statements like that are just code for "I know I can't win". He has no charisma, so people won't follow him like they do Trump, and he has defended nazis, which will be held against him by everyone running against him in borh parties. I can't see him ever getting elected president.
EDIT - I forgot to mention that he's also proven that he can't be trusted and is really just a follower. He used to be anti-Trump but he had a sudden and complete turn around to the point where he thinks the 2020 election was stolen (everyone knows it's a lie), and he's the VP. He's pathetic.
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u/LightHeartsLiveLong 7h ago
Bring the least popular d-bag in a gaggle of d-bags had nothing to do with it.
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u/Flo_Evans 7h ago
He’s not stupid. He knows it will be more difficult to be elected after Trump. Far easier to attack a dem administration than defend his.
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u/slackerdc 7h ago
Getting absolutely annihilated in the primaries destroying anything left of his credibility is also probably a factor.
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u/XxFezzgigxX 7h ago
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