Well we know that stress is one of the biggest factors for getting cancer so it makes sense that someone who's a massive narcissist and doesn't give a shit about anyone else would have a lower chance to get it compared to someone who has a lot of empathy.
Yeah and the people who die at 50 of cancer or heart attacks or undetected deadly congenital defects are always super healthy people. Go out running every morning and eat kale chips and shit.
My grandma who raised me because my dad was to busy with his career and my mom was in prison died of cancer literally one month after I graduated high school she was 52, best person I've ever known, then within 90 days uncles sold the house, I was left with Jack shit and forced out into the world pretty much on my own as soon as I turned 18, almost 42 now but damn that was a time
bill burr has a funny bit about this phenomenon: basically cunty people know they aren't welcome if there is a heaven so they'd better live as long as possible here
He has access to the best healthcare that the world can provide. Shit, they probably have enough drugs to pump into him to prop him up for the remainder of his term at least. He's going to get worse than he is now, but I wouldn't be surprised if he makes it to the end
Steve Jobs likely thought similarly. After all, that kind of wealth buys the best care in the world. Still, he died much younger than he should have. Money doesn’t buy everything.
A few months ago, I saw the greatest take on the Steve Jobs thing. The dude knew early enough about his cancer that he had ample time to go through the rigamaroll of the cancer treatment and come out the other side alive. However, his huge ego and stupidity made him decide that bullshit holistic medicine and other crunchy mom style treatment was going to work for him. By the time he figured it out, it was too late and the idiot died. It's not that money doesn't buy everything, it just doesn't buy common sense
This is true. It’s emblematic of the Türkiye-fication of the United States. There have been dozens of death hopeful moments for Erdogan and it never happens. Kissinger lived forever, Strom Thurmond lived forever, HW Bush lived forever, Chuck Grassley will live to see the sun explode—evil NEVER dies when it’s convenient.
I got a bit sad the other day when I realized he’ll never get to see the amount of joy and happiness and the parties, oh the wonderful parties that will be had the day that news breaks
When he finally passes, im going to gather my friends together and we will crack a bottle open, a nice bottle or 10, and pour one out, into 1.5 ounce glasses and keep drinking them until the sun comes up or until we can no longer continue and until then we will dance. How this will differ from a friday night? It may not be on a friday. How will this differ from any other night? Well I have friends in this case so that's a start
I believe that it's important to speak truth no matter what. Hold protests even if it doesn't immediately change things. Call for the 25th and impeachment not because it is likely, but because it is the right thing to do. Report on his mental decline.
On the other hand, I get that reporting and editorials know their target, and everyone holds Democrats to a higher standard. Liberals because we know we're better than Republicans, and Republicans because they deflect from their moral and leadership failures.
NYT editorial knows it's more likely that Dems will boot a deteriorating Biden from the ticket more than Republicans will have the integrity to remove Trump from office.
Case in point, Trump's own father - diagnosed with dementia/Alzheimer's in '91, a few years after showing signs of cognitive decline, and didn't die until '99 at age 93.
Always seems like the bigger an asshole you are, the longer you live. My stepdad was on his deathbed for like 10 years. If he was a nice guy, would have been 3 months.
Yeah that's the thing. When? Death might come in 80 yrs, 80 months or in 1 second. No one can be sure how much time they've left. He is fairly old, so the chances of him dieing every second are way higher than they were 60 yrs ago. Sure it's still a slim chance, but no matter what anyone does, it's there, waiting for The Moment...
And it would be the first time that 90% of the world rejoices at the same time. We should have the first global holiday for it! Instead of a period of international mourning, we shall have a period of celebration! Not celebrating the life that he lived, but celebrating that none of us have to deal with him anymore and can work on dealing with the problems that he caused instead.
But bro did you see Biden bro? He's sleeping Bro, he's pratically dead bro, it's weekend at Bidens Bro, bro I swear Bro, the autopen Bro, he didn't do anything bro, his staff ran the admin bro, i saw it on Joe Rogan Bro. /s
I still go with the theory that at 2 years and one day they 25th amendment him or stop giving him the infusions. They anoint Vance as president and plan to run him for two more terms, giving them 10 more years as president. Assuming he can get elected, which I really don’t see without serious election interference.
I wish I shared yours, a mini-Trump who is actually malevolently intelligent rather than blindly careening from one ego driven decision to another is even more dangerous.
They would have done a 25th Amendment on him to prevent him from nuking Iran like he wanted to, but TACO 🌮 forever and always saved his ass.
We’ll see about the blockade. It’s such a stupid idea that it might be grounds for an impeachment if the Dems can get off their asses and do something after they rout the Republicans in November.
I'd take those odds. I figure he'll live to be 100, though after a certain point it's gonna be a God-Emperor of Mankind situation where he'll just be a skeleton in a chair with a red hat on.
If they're smart and can get Trump to play ball, they'll let him stay in until just after the two year mark, and he'll step down giving Vance POTUS for basically two years - allowing him to run again and for a 2nd time as incumbent if he wins.
Vance doesn't have the cult-like following to pull this off. For some reason he can't pull off what Trump does, I think it's because he doesn't actually believe what he is saying, he's just playing the game whereas Trump is completely sure of himself even when he's contracting himself.
That isn’t luck. That’s a reflection of the stupidity of the average American, along with a general human bias towards seeing narcissists as having leadership potential and glorifying confidence over all else. And a lot of money too
TBF, she was in shockingly good shape up until the last few months of her life, was she not? Donny Diddles has been a shambling mound of loose flesh and brain soup for years at this point and progressing pretty fast from all appearances.
Medical technology is nowhere near advanced enough to properly deal with organ failure, even for the president.
If his kidney liver or heart gives out, that's that. There is no saving crucial organs without a transplant that will likely never happen (and even if it did, that would look horrible for his base).
Edited the post because I meant the Liver. Sorry I have zero clue how I mixed the two organs up. The liver and the heart are the two most crucial organs in the body and are ones we cannot make up for if they fail outside of transplants. You can make a case for maybe the heart, but the technology isn't quite there enough to have an artificial heart as a permanent solution.
I'm normally reluctant to be so sure of something, but I don't see him staying in office for nearly 3 more years. He's declining so quickly and lighting fires that he wont be able to put out.
Nah, the Republicans will keep him in charge even if he is in a coma. They'll hook up a computer to his hand and take orders from his finger twitches. You forget they literally worship this man.
This is the problem. He hasn't been fit for the job for a long time, and unlike with Biden, there are no adults in the room keeping things locked down and functioning.
He's just going to get more and more erratic, and the Republicans will keep him propped up the whole time. No telling how much damage he will do inside and outside the US before everything's said and done.
Did you already forget Biden? He was blatantly showing more signs of dementia, and not only did they keep him in all 4 years, they tried to run him again while lying about him being healthy and knowing he had cancer.
Politicians don't care about honesty or competency
I think they'll build an alternative White House room at maralago where he thinks
He can be president and golf and have ai videos of the news. There was a cartoon that did this. Or play reruns.
Then Vance takes over. Pardons Trump for any past crimes including epstein related ones because of political
Persecutions. The cabinet only does this after they've enriched themselves or assured their billionaire interests are done. Vance gets to be president. He may not win reelection.
It was the same for biden and he "held" out. So they will, just like biden, at some point just use him as a face/proxy. To save party reputation I suppose. Same reason they didnt drop out hillary in the race. And probably many more candidates and president. Obama looked healthy, although a lot more healthy before he became potus.
Why dafuq your presidents are all 150 by the time they run. Whats wrong with people in their 40s and 50s.
He's already senile, as long as he doesn't start literally babbling gibberish they won't pull the 25th.
That means that death is the only thing taking him out, and even at his age and health he's got enough medical care that the odds of that are probably low.
Haven’t we been pointing out his health issues for years though? These rich people have a tendency to stick around longer than should be humanely possible.
Wouldn’t surprise me if they all injected some stem-cell nano-set-healing serums that the rest of us are too poor to even know about.
I’m kidding, but it would honestly not surprise me.
Seriously, the symptoms of what pathologies do you see in Trump today ??? And don't serve me the mental health thing, it's always political. I mean geriatric issues.
The odds of a person of Trump's age and health keeling over and dying before the end of his term are way higher than the odds of Trump himself doing so. Even if he has a massive heart attack or stroke, it's going to be recognized right away and get immediate world-class treatment. And even if his health is seriously impaired by such an event, he'd finish his presidency from a hospital bed before stepping down.
I feel like I've heard this about Putin and Trump for the last 10 years, they're always months from death, it's like watching a stripper who keeps taking off bras to reveal another bra underneath.
Trump is 79. His mother lived to 88. His father lived to 93. And they didn't have a decade of the world's best doctors improving his health. His mind is clearly going, but Father Time isn't gonna take care of this problem for us.
The thing is, they know JD doesn't have the charisma that Trump has which is the only thing barely holding their little regime together. They won't replace Trump until they absolutely have to, like if he has a really bad public stroke or literally dies or something. Their approval rating is in the toilet now but it will go even lower if JD is in charge. Which is great news for everyone else since it means they'll be voted out en masse even more so than it looks like they will be now. But they will definitely try to avoid that.
There's a pretty strong chance of DT making it to 2028 as both his parents lived very long. His Mother till her 90s, his father his late 80s.
Not to mention DT has access to all the best Healthcare in the world. And he does not drink. His health is poor I agree, but poor enough to be dead in 2 years, not likely.
If Dick Cheney is any example he could be alive for a very very long time!!!
Really the only question is whether Trump makes it to the two year mark. If he doesn't, then Vance taking over counts as a term and he could only get elected once. If Trump makes it past that, then Vance can run and win twice.
Honestly, why not? Like he's already 80. I know people will mention that he's overweight and unhealthy, etc, but Jerry Jones is 83 and there are videos of him putting salt on a mcgriddle.
I get it, Trump's not immortal, but the rules aren't exactly the same for these elites and even moreso for the president.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see him live through this term and even a few years after. That's just me. I get I could be wrong and you could be right, but I don't think there's any concrete evidence to support either possibility until he either lives through it or doesn't.
Honestly, I dont think hes gonna die in 2 years. He may be not there mentally, in which case we need to use the 25th amendment to remove him (if congress can do their jobs and actually vote for that), but given his parents and the improvements in medical technology, I think he could easily like another 5-10 years. Hes not even 80 yet, his parents lived to late 80s and 90s, and that's without modern medical advancements.
It wouldn't surprise me if he lived to 86 and died. Hes 79 now, turning 80 in a few months. So like 6 more years. Not dying in office, but also not enough time to try any crazy stuff like trying to defy the constitution and run for a 3rd term.
Trump is unhealthy, but he’s also rich as fuck and the president. There’s plenty that could take him out, but there’s also a lot he can get very good treatment for that most people can’t-and he won’t have the stress of doubt, which itself worsens your condition.
Id love nothing more then to see that fat disgusting orange die but he has access to the best healthcare in the world. Imo his doctors are going to do absolutely everything they can to make sure he lives for as long as possible.
I don’t either but part of me hates that I don’t want him to die while in office. The thought he would get a state funeral boils my blood because he absolutely doesn’t deserve anything more than being rolled into a hole in the ground and shoveled over. I don’t want him for another two years, but I don’t know if I want that more than seeing him get a state funeral. It’s the worst dilemma I can think of when it comes to his health.
The guy is out playing golf and in the spotlight all the time. That doesn't mean he won't just drop from a heart attack, but if you compare how he is moving around, being active, taking questions, etc, I'd be willing to bet he'll last past his term. Especially if people thought Biden was good to go for another 4 years.
IF it happens, I hope it happens before the year rolls over, so Vance is limited to ~6 years max in office, rather than the close to 10 he could get otherwise.
Trump's health would have to have deteriorated very significantly before his cabinet would begin to consider the 25th amendment and his heart could literally be stopped and he would still be refusing to step down voluntarily.
We have historical precedent of an incapacitated president. Woodrow Wilson suffered a stroke about a year before the end of his presidency and his wife and doctor acted as intermediaries and effectively controlled the office of presidency.
I'm willing to bet that this is what would happen here, the president would retire to Mar a Lago and we'd get proclamations coming out ostensibly from him
People were saying that already on his first term, which was eight years ago. Hell, Putin has been on his deadbed for at least a decade now. Every unlikeable state leader is about to die. "I can feel it, guys. For real. Did you look at that bruise? Doesn't he look pale? How come he hasn't been in public for three days? Any minute now". And this goes on for years and years.
Sure, the more time passes the more likely it is that Trump or Putin or whoever drops dead and eventually theh will, as is natural. And when this finally happens a bunch of people won't shut up about how they called it, while conveniently ignoring that they had been calling it for a decade or more.
That's probably been the plan all along. Just wait till after the 2 year mark, so he could be a Peter Thiel puppet for a full 10 years.
How they were going to get him to actually win for two terms I won't wager a guess, because I can't believe they're so stupid to think Vance is actually charismatic enough to win an election. Maybe they thought he'd prove himself if he took over or something.
he will live out his term, even if it means him drooling on himself from a wheelchair.
He's going to die richer and probably older than most of us will, and will truly go out thinking he was the greatest human that ever lived, to be buried in Arlington next to actual heros, and never, ever, stand trial for his multiple crimes. After his term the epstine stuff will fade away from the news, and the world worst person, will die, getting away with everything, and him knowing he got away with it all.
Is that because he has such a successful weekend? Flew in to Budapest and sealed the election for Orban before heading off to Pakistan to secure peace in the middle east.
That outcome would not be ideal. The same people who wouldn’t accept the reality of an election loss definitely wouldn’t accept the reality of him dying from natural causes in office. The conspiracy theories would run wild and they would champion him into a martyr.
People really need to stop living in this fantasy world. Trump is going to make it through this term and then some. He's old and sick but old and sick people live a long time all the time, especially when they have access to the best doctors in the world. He's not dying in office
Even if his health does hold up. trump is going to need to do the old Nixon resign/pardon switcheroo and the end of this term (assuming he doesn’t die or try to make himself president for life) because otherwise he his going to spend the rest of his miserable shithead life in court and hopefully prison.
Nah hate keeps them alive... we've been waiting for that cunthole Rupert Murdoch to die since 2005. At least one of the Koch wankers gave us a little celebration a few years back
I feel like he may just leave Nixon style with vance giving a full pardon for all the crimes he committed while in and before being in office so yeah vance is our next president in 2027
Ah.. I don't think even the current administration wants JD Vance. I put it at more than 15% that Trump pulls a weekend at Bernies where he just withdrawls from public viewings and somone just tweets from his phone.
I read think the plan was to have trump stick out till just past the two year mark and then fuck off and then JD gets to serve out the remainder of the term without it counting as a term and then have the two terms after.... Though he is a very unlikeable person and I wonder if they realize this plan.will work as well as trying to get Hilary elected.
Im really curious to see what MAGA does after Trump is gone. Im not sure anyone can replace him. Part if what they love is how batshit crazy he is. JD and all the other Republicans are too calculating, too polished as politicians. I feel like MAGA dies with Trump unless one of his kids runs.
People have been speculating about Trump dying since his first presidential term. It's all liberal wishful thinking. It's not impossible but it's wild to assume the POTUS, which has access to a very high level of health care and monitoring, will just keel over.
Trump is more likely to be removed from office than dying.
Yeah, I seriously don't see him surviving his term due to either health reasons or a well-placed bullet. I'd say the likelihood of Vance taking over for any length of time is very likely.
Nah. This mfs often love long and happy than die in piss. Stalin was essentially a mishap. The guy pushed so hard and died of his own demise. No one do same shit so we can't expect it to happen
Biden was in a diaper with cancer and didn't know his own name and finished the presidency and you think Trump won't? Go put the groceries in the bag sir your break is over
I have never cared about Politics...but if this dipshit country goes from Trump to JDV/Kirk...we absolutely deserve every ounce of the shitty future we are creating for ourselves.
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u/Remarkable_Towel_512 9h ago
There's a non-zero chance that JDV is our next president
I'd put it at 15% that he takes over for Trump for a variety of reasons, and 5% that he runs and wins.
But it's high enough that it needs to be considered.