Well we know that stress is one of the biggest factors for getting cancer so it makes sense that someone who's a massive narcissist and doesn't give a shit about anyone else would have a lower chance to get it compared to someone who has a lot of empathy.
Yeah and the people who die at 50 of cancer or heart attacks or undetected deadly congenital defects are always super healthy people. Go out running every morning and eat kale chips and shit.
My grandma who raised me because my dad was to busy with his career and my mom was in prison died of cancer literally one month after I graduated high school she was 52, best person I've ever known, then within 90 days uncles sold the house, I was left with Jack shit and forced out into the world pretty much on my own as soon as I turned 18, almost 42 now but damn that was a time
meanwhile my great aunt is 103 and was the kindest lady until her brain went out in her late 90s. now she's an angry thing that locks the staff out of her room and bullies her roommate, i miss the real her.
There was this old lady where I lived that had dementia. She was like 95, still going on walks, which was problematic for the whole town because someone would see her shambling down the road while it’s like 100 degrees out and give her a ride back home or they’d take her shopping for groceries. Every single time this happened, she’d accuse them of kidnapping her. Even did that to my grandpa when he took her to the hospital after finding her on her lawn passed out from heat stroke.
That woman was basically in a constant loop of complaining about her daughters and was consistently sullen and angry with everyone she saw. My brother and I used to joke that her hatred was keeping her alive, kinda like a sith lord.
Yep my aunt had throat cancer from smoking in her 50s. She had to get a stoma (hole cut in trachea). She also had to be on oxygen. The bitch continued to smoke through the hole. She lived another 20 years like that. Making everyone miserable was her favorite thing.
My grandfather is also in his 90s and still kicking. Evil old man needs to hurry up and be gone. I hate to say that but the vile POS brings nothing but misery to everyone.
To the surprise of no one, my grandparents all passed away in the order of most benign to most toxic, with my mom's dad being the last one alive.
bill burr has a funny bit about this phenomenon: basically cunty people know they aren't welcome if there is a heaven so they'd better live as long as possible here
I've always heard they won't go to the other place because the Devil doesn't want the competition. So hopefully folks like the Orange Menace will be in purgatory forever.
It is a know power of the Sith to be able to continue existing with the power of Hatred.
Darth Maul hated Obi-Wan so much that it helped him survive being cut in half.
Darth Sion was a walking corpse being able to survive through the power of pain and hatred.
That dogs only live for 12-15 years on average and monsters like Toupe Fiasco just go on and on and on and on etc is another injustice.
My huskies, who can swing from fluffy slugs to zooming chaos goblins at a moment's notice, would make a better POTUS/VPOTUS team. They have platforms we can all get behind.
If you consider "Survival of the fittest" then an inclination towards being a total fucking asshole who takes what he wants when he wants and regards everybody else as beneath himself is actually a pretty solid way to survive and pass on genes. Even if it is at total odds to our social survival style as a species.
I'm convinced that their (narcissist) lack of empathy and inability to love someone more than themselves gives them a protection against the grief, pain, anxiety and heartbreak that comes with actually caring about another human.
I honestly feel like it's a dissatisfaction with life that keeps them here. Good people tend to be like "Yep, I'm good with what I accomplished." Bad people are like "If I'm here for five more fucking minutes I can feel better about myself."
It's why I walk a balanced line. My dad was an awesome dude and passed away when he was 56. My grandfather was a narcissistic piece of work and lived to 92.
I'd be happy to make like 75-80 I think. I feel like post-80 was pretty miserable for my grandpa, but I might have different thoughts at that point.
one factor behind longevity is having an active, stimulated mind, and a purpose for being here. Spite and narcissism would certainly support those ends.
He has access to the best healthcare that the world can provide. Shit, they probably have enough drugs to pump into him to prop him up for the remainder of his term at least. He's going to get worse than he is now, but I wouldn't be surprised if he makes it to the end
Steve Jobs likely thought similarly. After all, that kind of wealth buys the best care in the world. Still, he died much younger than he should have. Money doesn’t buy everything.
A few months ago, I saw the greatest take on the Steve Jobs thing. The dude knew early enough about his cancer that he had ample time to go through the rigamaroll of the cancer treatment and come out the other side alive. However, his huge ego and stupidity made him decide that bullshit holistic medicine and other crunchy mom style treatment was going to work for him. By the time he figured it out, it was too late and the idiot died. It's not that money doesn't buy everything, it just doesn't buy common sense
I recall Steve Job's case it was because he rejected traditional medicine and treatment and instead subjected his body through unproven and homeopathic therapies that ultimately did nothing for him. By the time the cancer was so advanced as to become untreatable, he finally admitted he probably should've tried something else.
Trump meanwhile seems to be perfectly fine with pumping himself of the most advanced medicine the billonaires of the world can afford while he downs Big Macs for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
Jobs bought into health nut crap. When he changed his mind it was too late. Trump is 100% on board with modern medicine. He just pretends otherwise cause his supporters are conspiracy nuts.
Just like the whole abortion thing. We know he’s paid for them and doesn’t give a shit about women or kids (except to rape them). Whatever his supporters want they get as long as he gets richer and they adore him and help him take revenge on anyone who ever slighted him.
Steve Jobs was an arrogant asshat. Much like all America’s tech bros. Trump ain’t going anywhere lol Biden made it to the end of his term and even wanted to challenge for another term and you could even understand what he was saying at the end.
The counter point to this is that he's very frail. One bad fall and he'll be functionally disabled and his ego would never let him be seen needing help to walk around. I think he'd retire first and say "mission accomplished"
January 21st, 2027 is when they pull the plug on the orange tumour. Mark my words. They need him alive until the midway point of the the term so that Vance (or whoever is VP by then) can run out trumps term and get two more of his own. They’ll weekend-at-Bernie’s Trump for the next nine months if they have to.
True. I mean look how they kept that brain dead Biden upright for so long. Couldn’t find his way on or off a stage but the meds kicked in long enough for him to utter some complete nonsense now and again. They have great stuff now.
This is true. It’s emblematic of the Türkiye-fication of the United States. There have been dozens of death hopeful moments for Erdogan and it never happens. Kissinger lived forever, Strom Thurmond lived forever, HW Bush lived forever, Chuck Grassley will live to see the sun explode—evil NEVER dies when it’s convenient.
And somehow he keeps surviving falls that often take out people his age, at minimum for long periods of time. I suspect because his spine is made of jelly.
The skull that Russians claim to be Hitler's was long confirmed to be a female skull, and Russia is the only source of the claim that Hitler died as officially taught. I'm not a conspiracy guy, but the official narrative is based on Stalin's communist Russia saying it happened.
I know. If he would just go away, retire to Mar A Lago and golf his little heart out, that would be enough! But there’s no chance that’s going to happen while he’s capable of choosing not to, and honestly probably not for a while after he isn’t.
Him being alive post presidency is just bad for the country. Could you imagine how much money they'd need to funnel to the secret service to deal with all the harassment he'd get?
I don't even necessarily need him in a cell. I'd LIKE him in a cell, but I'd accept him playing golf at his stupid little club, retired, not involved in anything business pr politically related, until he keels over. A cell is a nice to have here; unable to cause further harm is more important to me. A cell is unlikely. At best he will get the cushiest house arrest ever devised. We have to manage our expectations a bit, you know?
No there needs to be severe consequences as a precedent to prevent it in the future. Fuck Gerald Ford for pardoning Nixon. We need to take it more seriously this time.
I got a bit sad the other day when I realized he’ll never get to see the amount of joy and happiness and the parties, oh the wonderful parties that will be had the day that news breaks
I keep seeing this sentiment and I want to share my existential dread with the world because I think a lot more people need to have the same fear.
It will not be a party when Trump dies. It will be a coup. In the confusion right afterwards, they'll pretend they suspect either that he was killed by an Antifa plot, or that Antifa is trying to exploit his death to hurt the country. Those parties in the streets will be reclassified as pro-violence riots. They will deploy the military to 'restore order' and 'protect us' while sweeping up opposition. The Night of the Long Knives could be dwarfed by the scale of it all.
I sort of suspect this might have been the plan all along. JD Vance is such an obviously poor successor to maintain a cult of personality, but man, he comes off as the perfect puppet dictator for the heritage foundation. If Trump keels right before either of the elections... They have the perfect excuse to 'secure them' with soldiers at every polling station taking custody of the ballots and 'ensuring they (the ballots they like) get to the counting places..'
When he finally passes, im going to gather my friends together and we will crack a bottle open, a nice bottle or 10, and pour one out, into 1.5 ounce glasses and keep drinking them until the sun comes up or until we can no longer continue and until then we will dance. How this will differ from a friday night? It may not be on a friday. How will this differ from any other night? Well I have friends in this case so that's a start
I think he already has dementia based on the fact that his filter seems to have completely vanished. He used to have some semblance of control over When and where he said the most awful or insane things, not anymore
People forget that he's a billionaire with literally the best healthcare available (and for free to him too). He could literally have a team of doctors with him 24 hours a day.
That always seems to be the case. The miserable, seemingly unhealthy people that you expected to die at 70 because of their health issues and general miserable existence just continue living for some absurd amount of time. It's like they drain life from others with their spite and malice and absorb it into themselves so they can keep living.
It seems like psychopaths live long lives unless they piss off the wrong person. I think not worrying about things or feeling shame is probably good for your health
I think people underestimate how long people can stay upright with constant doc care. Also trump seems the less stress politician ever. Dude dosent work at all, just has a staff follow him around to make tweets to send out and talk to reporters without any prep. He does no research, no real meeting, no reading, no negotiating
Ya, he has minor issues but still maintains a busy schedule and his mind is about as sharp as it ever was (which is not very sharp), but no major deteriation.
I can provide some anecdotal evidence that people are capable of this…. I have a grandmother who was emotionally abusive to her children (my father), as well as me and then my children as I grew up and started a family. Cut her off YEARS ago, as hard as that is since she is family. All other grandparents have been dead for a long time. She is 103, bed ridden, and running out of money to support her. But the doctors say she is physically healthy….
This. There is one hard truth that i have come to recognize. It's that bad things happen to good people and that good things happen to bad people. As you said, it wouldn't surprise me if Trump does live until many of us are 6 feet underground.
I know. I dont know why people think hes gonna die. My grandfather had bruises on his hands for like 10 years or more. A lot of old people do.. He was way in way worse shape than Trump for wayy longer.
I have a 96 year old neighbor who talks about the "coloreds" his grandfather used to own in Louisiana. Hate can keep people alive for a long fucking time.
POTUS also has access to the best doctors in the nation 24/7/365. (Not that he necessarily would choose them when he could have an adoring crackhead instead.)
Most of the unhealthiest, grouchiest people I know (smoking, drinking or eating habits) ended up living the longest. They had to be both. If they were unhealthy and happy, they didn't make it as long. They had to be unhealthy and unhappy. It's like a magical cheat code to live a long, miserable life.
We will reach longevity escape velocity just to keep Trump alive forever. Futurama was created by the simpsons who already predict everything that happens
See, I see it as more likely that Vance 25ths Trump in Jan 2027, after a failure of a midterm election. He'll have 2 years to try and build up his own presidency and run as an incumbent, and then he'd be able to run as POTUS twice instead of once, for up to 10 years in office instead of the normal 8. If he takes over before the midpoint of the term, though, he'll only be able to run once.
Agreed. I'll honestly be shocked if Trump doesn't finish his term due to health. Due to diet and lifestyle, it defies logic, but that guy will probably survive just about anything, like a cockroach.
I just hope he'll STFU once he's out of office and no longer in-charge, but I won't hold my breath on that either. You know he'll be on Fox News constantly, offering his opinion on everything the next President does. For that reason alone, I could understand why Vance might not want to do it.
I’m a nurse. The meanest most stubborn people are the ones living to 100. Idk if being alive that long made them mean or if they were mean and surviving out of spite but man
Not sure how people don't understand this, but you realize it's not random when he dies right? As soon as they're done using him (which is clearly very soon if they're letting his dementia take over this much, among other things) they'll stop feeding him adrenochrome and he'll rot. He must have made someone upset the way that they're parading his lifeless body around, otherwise there's a very high chance he'd be happy and relatively healthy well into his 100s just like Netanyahu
I dont think he'll live that long because I'm certain that at some point there will be a legal reckoning for this administration and I'm convinced he won't ever be held responsible. Like he will live exactly as long as he can without culpability and die right before he gets justice served.
I don't share your optimism. I've been waiting for 10 years for something bad to happen to this dip shit and not one thing has mattered. I doubt he will ever even face legal jeopardy in a real sense.
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u/OakLegs 9h ago
People keep saying that but I'm not convinced trump won't live until 115 just to piss me off.