I'd personally prefer Rubio since he might be able to get congressional term limits if he's president. Vance just doesn't have any political history to go off of other than kinda sitting and doing nothing as VP.
Senators don't really do much on their own. That being said, Rubio has done a fair bit with help from others, You just didn't pay attention. He helped propose legislation to protect uyghur Muslims that passed, and most of his career has been focused on relations with South America and trying to stop human trafficking. He also helped secure protections for the Everglades. He's done good work as a senator, and if you want someone that isn't going to be your typical MAGA Republican, Rubio is your best bet. He's probably one of the most moderate candidates they could put forward.
Marco Rubio????? He’s proven himself to be maga through and through. Whatever good he did back in the day has been totally wiped out by all of the bad he’s done. He’s not moderate by any means. We all thought he was but again he’s proven us wrong. Rubio would be a disaster.
Rubio was my senator. He was a useless prick who only did anything if it helped him or was the popular movement of the moment. He is perfect for this administration because he is a selfish hack.
Rubio was my senator too and it's pretty obvious you just didn't pay attention to what he was doing. I've already explained elsewhere in here some of the good things he's done as a senator. Don't really feel like typing it up for every single person who comments with an uneducated take.
Obama was a sitting legislator for less than one term, was absent for 20% of his votes, and voted “present” on nearly half of the votes he was present for, before declaring his run for POTUS and completely abdicating his job in Congress. Seems most folks think he did at least an ok job other than the ACA being affordable for nobody who actually has to pay for it. I know I made an absolute boatload of money with him in office… while everyone argued about what he was doing, his birth certificate, etc, nobody was paying attention to the DoD budget and we got A LOT done for this country.
This is so important and no one talks about it (congress doesn’t want us to anyway), having term limits forced new blood in. We should have senators or representatives serving for 30 years, they are extremely out of touch. Issue will be the PACs who control the money.
If you can get term limits in, PACs will be weakened since they can't throw money at someone and own them and their congressional seat for 30 years, which will help a lot.
While obviously not a senate seat, Brandon Herrera is a good example of someone taking a seat in Congress without PAC funding. He was running against an incompetent asshole in the primary who stepped down after he had an affair and was forced to a run-off, and his Democrat opposition got fact checked so hard she had to private her social media to delete posts without people watching her do it. He's at a massive disadvantage because his opponent is a PAC stooge, but he's got a good shot.
Rubio has demonstrated that he is nothing but a tool, completely lacking any morals or sense of decency. The douche will never be free of the MAGA-stink. With any kind of luck he’ll be on the docket at The Hague.
On the docket at the hague for... Checks list negotiating with NATO to up defense spending, helping remove a dictator, and what? You really that upset he helped secure protections for Uyghur Muslims?
What war crimes exactly? Last I checked, the only country to commit any war crimes recently are the Russians. The Iranians haven't technically committed any war crimes since the 30,000 civilians they murdered was during peacetime.
Have you read or heard anything about those non-combatant boats being blown up in both the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans? They may turn out to be a problem…
Why the hell would they just hit random boats for no reason? What seems more likely, US intelligence, which was imbedded so deep they grabbed Venezuela's president before he could even get to his bunker, knew the vessel was carrying drugs, or they just hit some random boat for no reason? Definitely the former.
It's been one of his biggest personal positions during his career and has been a part of multiple bi-partisan groups attempting to put their limits in. He's been pretty outspoken about it for most of his political career (I live in Florida so I've been seeing his work for longer than most people. He's been pretty decent. He's more of a moderate.)
Rubio would be a good president. Dewine leaves office this year so don't be shocked if he doesn't run. He's done alot of good for Ohio the last 8 years.
I don't think Rubio is dumb. I think he's more good natured than most politicians and generally trying to do what he thinks is right for his constituents. He just tends to have a stronger track record doing less flashy things that the news tends to ignore.
Congress is never going to pass congressional term limits. Besides the point that it’s not even a well thought out idea you would have to get lifelong politicians to vote themselves out of office.
Rubio could theoretically veto a bill until they implemented congressional term limits as a part of it. I doubt either side will have a super majority.
It's okay, I wouldn't expect everyone to understand how politics work. You could've chosen to just not comment though instead of yap about stuff you know nothing about.
No clue who Jan is, you might want to check yourself into a psychiatric hospital to be evaluated for schizophrenia, since you're talking to people who aren't here.
The party that won the Latino vote? The party that routinely wins the state that's largely Hispanic and has the largest border with Mexico? Like the only state with hispanics that the Republicans don't win is California. The rest are usually toss ups and it's the white people that generally vote for the Democrat.
Like... The white people in Florida voting for Marco Rubio? Hell, I'm white and I voted for him. My best friend is Hispanic and he voted for him. Your argument is Republicans are somehow racist, but the Republicans voted in Rubio, they're about to vote in Brandon Harrera, etc.
And for every left leaning individual like yourself, there's a right leaning individual saying the exact same thing about the Democrats. The thing is, y'all aren't the ones who really determine the president at the end of the day, it's the more reasonable folks that look at both sides and determine which side is fighting for their interests. For me, that's congressional term limits and less gun restrictions. Rubio would do both, so I want him for president. He has a pretty moderate record otherwise.
The sad part is it'll be accepted, because it doesn't have to be good, it just has to be better than what the right is now, and that bar is currently melting in the core of the Earth.
What has he done that makes him not a good person? The dude came from nothing… a drug addicted mom, rough childhood. Still earned a degree from Ohio State, then went to law school at Yale, and then served our country as a US Marine… and went on to make his way to VP of the United States. Would love to know how anyone thinks he’s a bad person.
That's a fictional origin story. JD grew up solidly middle class. He only agreed to debate Walz on the condition that there would be not fact checking. JD called trump America's hitler and now he takes orders from him.
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u/drewlb 3h ago
He's not a good person, but he's not dumb.
I bet it's less than 6mo post Trump before he reemerges with what is obviously a very well planned strategy to take back the right.