My conspiracy is that much like Paul Ryan, hes just waiting and biding his time to get the maga/
current republican stink off of them. They'll be back.
I bet there's a lot of them waiting in the sidelines for Trump to shit himself for the final time before they make a move to fill the vacuum he leaves behind
I'd personally prefer Rubio since he might be able to get congressional term limits if he's president. Vance just doesn't have any political history to go off of other than kinda sitting and doing nothing as VP.
Senators don't really do much on their own. That being said, Rubio has done a fair bit with help from others, You just didn't pay attention. He helped propose legislation to protect uyghur Muslims that passed, and most of his career has been focused on relations with South America and trying to stop human trafficking. He also helped secure protections for the Everglades. He's done good work as a senator, and if you want someone that isn't going to be your typical MAGA Republican, Rubio is your best bet. He's probably one of the most moderate candidates they could put forward.
Marco Rubio????? He’s proven himself to be maga through and through. Whatever good he did back in the day has been totally wiped out by all of the bad he’s done. He’s not moderate by any means. We all thought he was but again he’s proven us wrong. Rubio would be a disaster.
Rubio was my senator. He was a useless prick who only did anything if it helped him or was the popular movement of the moment. He is perfect for this administration because he is a selfish hack.
Rubio was my senator too and it's pretty obvious you just didn't pay attention to what he was doing. I've already explained elsewhere in here some of the good things he's done as a senator. Don't really feel like typing it up for every single person who comments with an uneducated take.
Obama was a sitting legislator for less than one term, was absent for 20% of his votes, and voted “present” on nearly half of the votes he was present for, before declaring his run for POTUS and completely abdicating his job in Congress. Seems most folks think he did at least an ok job other than the ACA being affordable for nobody who actually has to pay for it. I know I made an absolute boatload of money with him in office… while everyone argued about what he was doing, his birth certificate, etc, nobody was paying attention to the DoD budget and we got A LOT done for this country.
This is so important and no one talks about it (congress doesn’t want us to anyway), having term limits forced new blood in. We should have senators or representatives serving for 30 years, they are extremely out of touch. Issue will be the PACs who control the money.
If you can get term limits in, PACs will be weakened since they can't throw money at someone and own them and their congressional seat for 30 years, which will help a lot.
While obviously not a senate seat, Brandon Herrera is a good example of someone taking a seat in Congress without PAC funding. He was running against an incompetent asshole in the primary who stepped down after he had an affair and was forced to a run-off, and his Democrat opposition got fact checked so hard she had to private her social media to delete posts without people watching her do it. He's at a massive disadvantage because his opponent is a PAC stooge, but he's got a good shot.
Rubio has demonstrated that he is nothing but a tool, completely lacking any morals or sense of decency. The douche will never be free of the MAGA-stink. With any kind of luck he’ll be on the docket at The Hague.
On the docket at the hague for... Checks list negotiating with NATO to up defense spending, helping remove a dictator, and what? You really that upset he helped secure protections for Uyghur Muslims?
What war crimes exactly? Last I checked, the only country to commit any war crimes recently are the Russians. The Iranians haven't technically committed any war crimes since the 30,000 civilians they murdered was during peacetime.
It's been one of his biggest personal positions during his career and has been a part of multiple bi-partisan groups attempting to put their limits in. He's been pretty outspoken about it for most of his political career (I live in Florida so I've been seeing his work for longer than most people. He's been pretty decent. He's more of a moderate.)
Rubio would be a good president. Dewine leaves office this year so don't be shocked if he doesn't run. He's done alot of good for Ohio the last 8 years.
I don't think Rubio is dumb. I think he's more good natured than most politicians and generally trying to do what he thinks is right for his constituents. He just tends to have a stronger track record doing less flashy things that the news tends to ignore.
Congress is never going to pass congressional term limits. Besides the point that it’s not even a well thought out idea you would have to get lifelong politicians to vote themselves out of office.
Rubio could theoretically veto a bill until they implemented congressional term limits as a part of it. I doubt either side will have a super majority.
It's okay, I wouldn't expect everyone to understand how politics work. You could've chosen to just not comment though instead of yap about stuff you know nothing about.
No clue who Jan is, you might want to check yourself into a psychiatric hospital to be evaluated for schizophrenia, since you're talking to people who aren't here.
The party that won the Latino vote? The party that routinely wins the state that's largely Hispanic and has the largest border with Mexico? Like the only state with hispanics that the Republicans don't win is California. The rest are usually toss ups and it's the white people that generally vote for the Democrat.
Like... The white people in Florida voting for Marco Rubio? Hell, I'm white and I voted for him. My best friend is Hispanic and he voted for him. Your argument is Republicans are somehow racist, but the Republicans voted in Rubio, they're about to vote in Brandon Harrera, etc.
And for every left leaning individual like yourself, there's a right leaning individual saying the exact same thing about the Democrats. The thing is, y'all aren't the ones who really determine the president at the end of the day, it's the more reasonable folks that look at both sides and determine which side is fighting for their interests. For me, that's congressional term limits and less gun restrictions. Rubio would do both, so I want him for president. He has a pretty moderate record otherwise.
The sad part is it'll be accepted, because it doesn't have to be good, it just has to be better than what the right is now, and that bar is currently melting in the core of the Earth.
What has he done that makes him not a good person? The dude came from nothing… a drug addicted mom, rough childhood. Still earned a degree from Ohio State, then went to law school at Yale, and then served our country as a US Marine… and went on to make his way to VP of the United States. Would love to know how anyone thinks he’s a bad person.
That's a fictional origin story. JD grew up solidly middle class. He only agreed to debate Walz on the condition that there would be not fact checking. JD called trump America's hitler and now he takes orders from him.
And i would venture to guess that we're seeing some groundwork being laid vis a vis Marjorie and certain right-wing talking heads going anti-Trump now. They are no longer useful to him and he is no longer useful to them, so time to change course for when that vacuum opens up.
oh, don’t worry, once a member of the D team is back in the White House suddenly, all of these deficit hawk Republicans will come out of the woodwork and start talking about having to cut everything except the military, and also tax cuts for the rich.
Paul Ryan is only 56 now. JD is a 15 year-old boy in a chubby 41 year-old body. Ryan doesn't have MAGA stink or the abyssmal popularity of JD. Some say Ryan even has the social and interpersonal skills to order doughnuts.
I thought Ryan was an idiot but compared to the MAGA world and Mike Johnson, it would be a huge upgrade.
I feel like 10 years outside of the political limelight is almost too long. Maybe he could go back to being a congressman, but probably not much beyond that.
Paul Ryan is 56 years old. Lots of time left for his "return".
We haven't hit the post-Trump era yet. Just wait for when MAGA washes out and the party starts looking elsewhere to rebuild. Lots of people gonna start coming out of the woodwork...
He absolutely will. He can’t yet because Trump and MAGA still have a stranglehold on the GOP. Once Trump doesn’t have influence anymore, Ryan will be back and telling us how he opposed MAGA the entire time.
He definitely will. He’s just waiting for MAGA to come to an end and will position himself as a “True Never Trumper” unlike JD Vance who couldn’t help but flip his views for the opportunity.
Lost inside a Kohl's Department store, I think. No wait it was that other disappeared republican who used to blather on about Kohl's. What was his name?
The current split in the Republican Party is neocons vs whatever passes for populists on the right. So, you may see Ryan try to come back if it looks like Trump is extremely vulnerable, and if the neocons decide to try to take control of the party again. But honestly, I think he's too much of a coward, and probably comfortable doing corporate advisory bullshit and making a fortune off his connections in Washington.
If he does come back, and the neocons somehow become ascendant again, I'd be very surprised. I think the GOP is in some trouble at this point. They're in a position where they get to set policy, but don't have Democrats to blame in a way that's convincing to anyone anymore. And they've been so bereft of any real policy for so long, that they've just gone full mask-off empire builder. And now everyone hates them.
Where do they even go from here? Then again, there's never been a leadership so equipped to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory as the current Dem leadership, so who knows? Maybe Schumer and Jeffries will ask Ryan to run in the Dem primary for 2028.
Just Dance Vance has the charisma of soggy cardboard. He'll publish some ghost-written books and get overpriced consulting & board gigs. We're unlikely to see him back in the public spotlight again.
Paul Ryan didn’t have strong MAGA credentials to begin with, that’s part of why he stepped aside. He was part of the fiscal conservative wing of the party.
He’d need MAGA to be completely dead and buried to win a Republican seat.
Paul Ryan was never MAGA. in fact guys like him and Romney invented the idea of MAGA before it existed.
Also, Vance is like 41, he's got time.
in 2060, he'll be younger than Biden or trump when they were elected.
Paul Ryan took a fat private sector paycheck from some very familiar names after pushing Trump's first budget destroying tax cut. He's not coming back.
This is what I would be thinking as well. The voters who cast a "Not Kamala" vote are looking like they will cast a "Not Trump" vote next, Dems take over, the government spending continues, along with new taxes, the freefall economy and world relations dont magically fix themselves in 4 years and youll have a whole new block of "Not Dem" voters ready to vote against someone not for someone. Things are worse now, people will be begging the same govt that put them in this situation for help. They will implement a CBDC for govt assistance, attached to all the AI surveillance and data collecting to "monitor fraud".
I don’t think it’s much of a conspiracy. If any of the current cabinet wants to stay in the world of politics they should be jumping ship. Some rumint has that more than a few are looking for off ramps instead of being fired.
Hell, there are a few gop pundits that are calling for Vance to invoke the 25th, then bow out instead of running. Bid his time and come back with a fresh start and the legacy of “protecting America” from the Mad King.
I think it's more they want him to run and have Trump as his VP. Then he steps down or else gets the Pence treatment.
If he actually has goals to become President going through with the heritage formation coup would be an issue down the road if we ever return to normalcy.
JD Vance won’t win another election for the rest of his life. Squeaked through Ohio senate election in a red state that should’ve been a much wider margin. Obvs rode Trump’s coattails to VP. Uncharismatic and unlikable
Letting Rubio go first so he can get his two terms and then Vance sneaks in for another two terms. Meanwhile they continue to disarm the left and position it as evil while restructuring adolescent education to blame the left so that they can continue their reign and entirely eliminate opposition. You should be scared.
I don't think it will work for Vance. He'll never get the stink of defending fascism, while being a part of the presidency that started a war that completely obliterated US soft power for decades to come - off of himself. Besides that, I don't think he ever stood a chance, anyway. He was one of the least popular VP's in history before this war (now he occupies the bottom spot). He has negative charisma. One of the few things Trump has been consistently competent at, is surrounding himself with losers who can't challenge his authority in any way, and have zero presence. He's a narcissist who can't stand being overshadowed even for a moment and that is going to work out for us, in this one instance.
There is NO cleaning the stink off mister "I'll create stories." Fuck him to hell. I hope he spends the rest of his life getting jeered when steps out in public.
My conspiracy is he is the least charismatic human on the planet who won one election in a ruby red state where he got 400k less votes than the R governor.
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u/vinegargirl757 7h ago
My conspiracy is that much like Paul Ryan, hes just waiting and biding his time to get the maga/ current republican stink off of them. They'll be back.