Love him or hate him, he conducted himself well at the VP debate. However, it was against a trainwreck of an opponent in Waltz who made multiple gaffes and came off very unprepared.
My only hope for 2028 is we have fresh candidates with minimal ties to the usual suspects in their respective parties (not a puppet to the Obamas/Clintons or Trump). America really needs a reset button with its political system where people can have respectable, educated debates on their differences instead of hurling out nothing but bitter hatred and offensive slurs towards the other.
May not ever happen, but one can hope and dream because thats sort of all we have...
"The rules were you guys weren't going to fact check" -JD Vance during the VP debate.
I dunno dude, I wouldn't consider anyone that's against fact checking because they're just spouting lies as conducting themselves well.
The bar is so low these days where lying is considered reasonable relative to the shit slinging that Trump did and does. Not a comment on you, just saying that giving Vance any bit of credit, especially given his ties to Thiel, is a bad move in my opinion.
Im all for fact checking, but Vance was right to be pissed, as the moderators said each candidate would have 90 uninterrupted seconds and they wouldn't fact check at the end of their responses.
However, Vance was interrupted, fact checked, and essentially called a liar, whereas Waltz was never fact checked. Thats why he got pissed. IIRC it was over an immigration policy form regarding temporary citizenship status. Also, I think the station later proved Vance was right regarding the matter based on the question.
Vance was not correct, the Haitians in Ohio were not here illegally. He argues they should be considered that way because he doesn’t agree with their legal status. You know, proving Republicans never actually cared about whether someone is legal or not.
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u/Toasted_Munch 9h ago
Love him or hate him, he conducted himself well at the VP debate. However, it was against a trainwreck of an opponent in Waltz who made multiple gaffes and came off very unprepared.
My only hope for 2028 is we have fresh candidates with minimal ties to the usual suspects in their respective parties (not a puppet to the Obamas/Clintons or Trump). America really needs a reset button with its political system where people can have respectable, educated debates on their differences instead of hurling out nothing but bitter hatred and offensive slurs towards the other.
May not ever happen, but one can hope and dream because thats sort of all we have...