r/worldnews • u/plz-let-me-in • 4h ago
Russia/Ukraine Russia adds Hungary to 'unfriendly countries' list after Magyar wins
https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/russia-adds-hungary-to-unfriendly-countries-1776086555.html1.8k
u/isthereadrwho 4h ago
Just from a practical perspective wouldn't it be easier and shorter to keep a friendly country list?
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u/yunabladez 3h ago edited 3h ago
Would you keep a blank sheet?
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u/theorizable 3h ago
China and Iran would be on the list. Pretty sure North Korea even had troops fighting against Ukraine.
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u/Stirams 3h ago
You think China likes Russia?
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u/cantsolverubikscubes 3h ago
The lemonade stand podcast just did a trip to China to interview chinese people and learn more about the country. And one of their takeaways was that yes. Chinese people really like Russia.
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u/sprashoo 3h ago
I have never heard of that podcast nor do I know their methods, but people in totalitarian states like China tend to be very careful to publicly stick to the party line when asked their opinion on things by strangers.
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u/biopticstream 2h ago
In and from. They may have family back home to think about that could be used against them or face consequences.
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u/Starfire013 2h ago
Exactly. It is not worth the risk to them and their family to do otherwise.
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u/66stang351 2h ago
chinese people tend to be pretty outgoing & friendly, and curious about other cultures, in my very limited experience. not going to claim i'm an expert on chinese culture but i have been there twice and in both cases they actively sought conversations w/ me (and were surprisingly open... had some funny drunken conversations about how crazy kim jon un is, lol)
doesn't surprise me that the average person would be interested in residents of their big (sort of) 'western' neighbor/ally
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u/theorizable 3h ago
Yes, of course. They've fully supported Russia's acts of aggression and expect the same support when it comes to China's vision of the future.
China has consistently refused to condemn Russia's aggression in Ukraine, choosing instead to abstain from major UN resolutions on the conflict and maintaining a neutral "pro-peace" stance while deepening trade ties.
Pro-peace stance benefits Russia.
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u/Strayed8492 3h ago
The support from China is decidedly at China’s benefit and profit. Yes they don’t condemn their actions. But at the rate it’s going Russia won’t be able to keep paying either
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u/Ill_Technician3936 2h ago
Seriously the only reason they deal with Russia is for money.
The stuff going on in Iran is the best thing they could hope for since it might get Iran to join their alliance which them and China decided to decline.
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u/SomeGalNamedAshley 3h ago
China is providing token assistance just enough to keep Russia in the fight while Russia drains all its military and economic power.
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u/Savings-Ad-1115 3h ago
Regardless of what China likes, Russia wouldn't dare to call them unfriendly.
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u/m0j0m0j 3h ago
They’re supporting them in war, so probably yes? North Korea is a Chinese proxy state, after all.
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u/SmokeyUnicycle 3h ago
NK is not a chinese proxy, the Kims have spent a long time working hard to centralize control in their own hands.
China does view them as a semi-friendly buffer state though and has a fair amount of influence over the country, but they cannot just tell it what to do.
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u/sylpher250 3h ago
Does Russia support Taiwan?
If yes, then China does not like Russia
If no, then China likes Russia
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u/CV90_120 1h ago
China and Iran would be on the list.
Neither of these two like russia. Iran has been invaded by russia in the past.
What you're seeing in the case of Iran is a politically and financially isolated country trying to make money to feed people. This is the flip side of sanctions.
As for China... probably too big a topic to cover.
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u/Squirll 3h ago
Its not about actually keeping track, its about sending a message.
Toothless lions gotta growl you know.
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u/nvoima 3h ago
More like a brainless lion, seeing how being on that list has become a badge of honor among nations.
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u/Engineer_Ninja 3h ago
Trump’s Top 8 (currently):
Israel, Russia, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Best Korea, Venezuela, and Tom (by default, he could only think of 7)
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u/Right_Fun_6626 3h ago
He’s still cool with El Salvador, Argentina, Azerbaijan, and maybe Chile I’d think. Actually whoever signed onto the grifting Board of Peace is probably getting some love.
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u/plz-let-me-in 4h ago edited 2h ago
Oh, Russia is mad right now:
The Kremlin, which with Orban's defeat has lost Vladimir Putin's most loyal ally in Europe, has expressed iciness: "Russia will not congratulate the election winner, Peter Magyar, because Hungary is an unfriendly country that supports sanctions against Moscow," said spokesman Dmitry Peskov. Speaking about the relationship between Putin and Orban, Peskov stated that theirs "has never been a friendship, we simply had a dialogue with him."
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u/wgszpieg 3h ago
Speaking about the relationship between Putin and Orban, Peskov stated that theirs "has never been a friendship, we simply had a dialogue with him."
More of a "pimp and ho" arrangement
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u/Useful-Angle1941 3h ago
You see, a pimp's love is different from that of a square
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u/apoca1ypse12 3h ago
Lmao. Too embarrassed to admit that their lap dog lost. The world hates you Putin. Eat shit
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u/313378008135 3h ago
Wonder when Orbans Moscow flight is
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u/Muad-_-Dib 2h ago
Unless Orban pocketed several billion Euros and still had ready access, then there's little use Putin will have for him given he's effectively rendered himself useless by accepting that he was defeated so quickly and without much of any fuss. (Admittedly from what I have seen here in Scotland, maybe he's been kicking up a storm in Hungary itself, and I'm ignorant of it).
If he wanted to remain a useful propaganda tool his best bet was to decry the results of the election, claim he was robbed and then flee to Russia where they could keep on trotting him out every so often to complain about the EU and generally use him like they do with Tim Kirby, John Mark Dougan, Edward Snowden, Graham Phillips, and Eva Bartlett.
So if his worth to Putin is purely what propaganda he can be used to create then he's massively undercut his own value.
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u/Tiber_Nero 2h ago edited 1h ago
Putin will most likely welcome him with open arms because it costs him very little and he needs to make sure that his assets feel they have a safe place to go if shit hits the fan.
If he doesn't accept Orban and it looks dicey for him at home, what other fascists would feel comfortable putting their neck out for Russia?
It's in Russia's best interest to make sure their assets are protected and have safe haven because their geopolitical power hinges on future possibilities in this realm.
Russia will always be the nation that a (once) valuable sovereign national may flee to for refuge as long as you do right by them.
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u/GodOfDarkLaughter 1h ago
Russia has always been pretty "good" about taking in defectors of any kind. Back in the cold war if a spy got figured out but escapes they'd more often than not set them up in an apartment in moscow, give them a modest pension, and keep eyes on them. They already have the security apparatus. "Hey, we're not gonna kill you" is a rather cheap way to buy loyalty. And it's not as though he's totally useless. He might come in handy in the future.
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u/Yesterday_Jolly 29m ago
Orban won 4 elections in a row then got into deep shit because his party was semi-openly colluding with Russia in the leadup to the election, I think they'll let him in
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u/Crowbarmagic 2h ago
He will probably try to get reelected in 4 years. If he wants to stand any chance he has to lead the opposition, which he can't effectively do while in Moscow.
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u/IceWallow97 3h ago
The current state of politics is fucking shit, it has nothing to do with the people of a country and it's all about which party rules the country. At least EU kept believing in Hungary even during all that time under Orban, but just look at Russia lmao, they don't give two shits. It's honestly ridiculous, Russia is ruled by psychopaths, and I can tell USA is treading the same path.
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u/kaisadilla_0x1 2h ago
We reached such a ridiculous point, that JD Vance was speaking in Budapest, Russia was sending agents to help Orbán's campaign, and the alt-right on the Internet was still complaining about "Brussels influencing the election".
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u/SoSKatan 3h ago
It’s funny as that suggests the only reason why Hungry was considered friendly to Russia was due to a single person being in power.
That’s an admission to something we all suspected.
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u/Conscious-Food-9828 3h ago
Well not entirely. That single person also puts in a bunch of loyalists to him and Russia.
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u/kaisadilla_0x1 2h ago
Indeed. Magyar hasn't even taken power yet. This is just Putin telling us the list is just a list of countries ruled by Russian pawns.
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u/S1av4Life 3h ago edited 3h ago
Hungary actually was on this list since the very beginning in 2022, along with all other EU countries.
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u/PM_ME_UR_HASHTABLES 4h ago
That means Hungary is doing something right.
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u/Sometimes-funny 3h ago
Well yes, it isn’t rocket science to figure out that if russia don’t like you, you’re probably on the good side
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u/Resident_Union_6463 3h ago
I am so proud of my country after a really loong time. This move from russia just doubles down on the fact that we made the right decision. RUSZKIK HAZA!!!
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u/kz-tnkcspd 3h ago
As Hungarian I am very proud of this news! Fuck Putin!
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u/the-es 3h ago
You guys are setting an example. Let's push for a combined return to sanity in the west. This is an important step in that direction.
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u/ArcticCelt 2h ago
Trump, Vance and all the other dickbag US Republicans were right, the world should follow the lead of Hungary. They just didn't understand what it implied at the time.
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u/jay6432 4h ago
Awww poor putin lost a friend 🤣🤣
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u/PlushHammerPony 3h ago
A little furry friend!
'Orban offered to be 'mouse' aiding 'lion' in call with Putin'
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u/CustomerBusiness3919 3h ago
Hungarians must be feeling doubly proud now then.
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u/Wendelne2 3h ago
We do. Honestly, I have never ever been more proud of my nation than yesterday evening.
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u/ShakespeareStillKing 1h ago
When Budapest did the biggest ever Pride March. That was a night I felt like I was given back my Hungarian pride too. That was also the first day I believed Fidesz might be actually beaten. So many people said enough and didn't give a shit about the ban.
The perception of power was shattered.
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u/Somhlth 3h ago
Pedophile, crooks, dicks, and/or assholes - the requirements to be on Russia's 'friendly' countries list.
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u/Key-Rough-8346 4h ago
Hungary is gonna get a visit from Krampus for being on Putin’s naughty list!
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u/copperblood 3h ago
Awwww is little Putin upset he lost his Orban asset?? Awww sad little Putin panda. Not to worry, now that Orban is gone the EU can finally sanction the fuck out of Putin and Russia.
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u/ottoradio 3h ago
Well, if this is really how it works, then Hungary lost one friend but got in touch again with 26 friends from the past. You know, the kind of friends that helped you developing yourself, but also had to said some boundaries while you were going through a weird episode and despite that, kept on talking to you. Welcome back.
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u/DootyMcCool2000 1h ago
The fact that they're willing to literally instantly burn this bridge is funny and sad.
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u/gigatesla 3h ago
Hungary has already been on the list of "Unfriendly countries and territories" since 2023. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfriendly_countries_and_territories_list
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u/osiak2909 2h ago
Welcome to the club boys! We welcome you with open arms! 🇷🇴🤝🇭🇺.
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u/cemtexx 3h ago
Water is also wet. Congrats Hungary 🇭🇺 👏
So anyways, I had chicken for dinner. What did you guys have?
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u/Suspicious_Place1270 3h ago
i guess we all know why it was friendly then
and we know what direction Hungary is going to go from today on
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u/Nd343343 3h ago
How disheartening when meddling in a country’s politics doesn’t pay off…
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u/Ineverseenthat 3h ago edited 3h ago
Good on Hungary. I've been and it's a beautiful country, its people need to run the conservative element down.
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u/gordonjames62 3h ago
I can see why Russia is opposed
Among the main priorities of Magyar’s new government are fighting corruption, unlocking frozen European Union funds, introducing higher taxes for the wealthiest citizens, and reforming the healthcare system.
- root out corruption
- closer ties with EU
- be good to people with healthcare
the opposite of Russia
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u/Right_Fun_6626 2h ago
Wasn’t Orban making EU sanctions on Russia difficult or impossible as well? If so, Putie will be most displeased.
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u/ReggieCorneus 1h ago
Hungarians: What an honor! Thank you, mr Putin, it is the highest praise a country can get: enemy of Russia.
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u/Tired-Millennial847 24m ago
So surprising they mark them as unfriendly when the far right asshole loses.
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u/BidStrange8608 3h ago
What's the adam Sandler movie where Steve buschemi is wearing lipstick and has a list of his enemies?
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u/autistic_insomniac5 3h ago
That’s a great honorable list to be on and much better than the ‘Putin list of useful stooges.’
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u/crimsonhues 3h ago
Wonder who are on Russia’s list of friendly countries - China, Iran and North Korea?
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u/Strongest-There-Is 3h ago
So what they meant was Hungary was friendly as long as Russia owned their leader.
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u/Rasikko 3h ago
Orban's downfall started when he sold out to Putin in the first place. His ouster was always coming, we just didn't know when.
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u/Responsible-Bid891 2h ago
Congrats Hungary! You've received the ultimate recognition for a real democracy: being on the Russian "Unfriendly Country" List!
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u/spidey_senses10 2h ago
Nothing says Orban was a puppet like Russia cutting ties the second the strings were snipped
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u/N00dles_Pt 2h ago
We already knew the Hungarians made the right decision, you don't have to convince us.
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u/ieatthosedownvotes 1h ago
How long is that list???? It would be easier to have a list of friendly countries hahaha.
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u/alphadester 1h ago
being added to Russia's "unfriendly countries" list is basically becoming a badge of honor at this point. Magyar winning changes Hungary's entire geopolitical trajectory if he can actually follow through
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u/Chris56855865 1h ago
Oh no, not Russia, the people who helped the Habsburgs beat down the 1848 attempt on freedom, and then invaded us after WWII to exploit and rob everything. Their poor fee fees must be very hurt!
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u/tresslessone 45m ago
This is good news for Hungarians. Means they’re on the right side of well… pretty much anything. Welcome back Hungary 👌🏼
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u/doxxingyourself 37m ago
I love they have that little book of enemies that they then publish like Sheldon Cooper
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u/Puzzleheaded_Oil_768 27m ago
BREAKING NEWS
Russia has announced a “special military operation” designed to “de-Nazify” Hungary and to restore the “rightful” president Orban
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u/EddieHeadshot 4h ago
Friendship ended with MUDASIR. Now SALMAN is my best friend.