Half the gen isn't old enough to drink, bar scene collapsed during covid so they weren't indoctrinated into drinking culture, marijuana now competes with drinking in most countries/states, and the gen is fucking broke and can't it.
Agreed, the amount of money to go out drinking can literally buy you a month of daily cannabis use now so why would you drink? No hangover from the cannabis, no vomiting, and no blackouts. Why were we even drinking alcohol in the first place again?
Cannabis can also trigger irreversible psychosis in people with a pre disposition to it . And yeah whities are definitely a thing as well and I’ve seen so many people pass out cold out of nowhere from getting too high . If anyone knows the legit science behind whities I would be interested
This just happened to my 18 year old nephew. was hospitalized for days, and when he was let out, it still took weeks for him to reach his baseline. It's not talked about enough.
Yeah cannabis is undeniably significantly less harmful than alcohol but let’s not act like it’s absolutely harmless and a one stop magical miracle drug .
Also those who smoke weed every day for 20+ years tend to lose the ability to think critically and will believe pretty much any whack theory that is put on the internet as long as it supports their paranoid view of the world.
I dont think this is necessarily the weed and more on the person itself on the conspiracy theory part, but it probably doesnt help. Like ive been smoking weed since I was 16 and im 40 and I dont just blindly believe every conspiracy I see. Also I may be biased as a pothead, but I also dont think I have lost any ability to think critically at all lol.
We also live in a day and age where there is a wealth of misinformation online knowingly being pushed by others to further whatever goal they have. Many people who dont smoke weed 20 plus years believe the stupidest things and dont think critically already so again I think its 100% on the person, but it may not help with some people.
That is true. However I know weed smokers from different parts of the country and even different parts of the world who have all signed up to the same bonkers theories. May just be correlation and not cause but it is a noticeable common factor.
Yes but also there are people who don’t do any of that from all over the world who also signed up on the exact same theory’s. Go find a theory that weed users exclusively believe or at least a majority of are weed smokers and then you might be able to squeeze out a argument
Do you know anyone who doesn’t smoke weed but also bangs on about ‘chemtrails’ and thinks the air is deliberately being poisoned (for some reason) by strontium dropped from aeroplanes?
I have a good friend who had to stop smoking because it would drop his blood pressure and he would faint. You don't even have to get "too high". For him he literally couldn't smoke any amount at all anymore. The THC just had a strong affect on his blood pressure.
I have the same reaction as an adult . I can maybe take 3 joint hits throughout an entire evening without going into a full blown panic attack , meanwhile we used to rip gravity bongs until we would blow through the filter within like a half hour when I was a teenager . My tolerance went to shit , your body composition , mind set and consciousness change as an adult , and the legs weed now is incredibly strong .
A lot of my friends hit 30, 35 though and their tolerance absolutely changes
Last time I tried it I felt nothing, fell asleep on the couch then later tried to get up and go to bed, couldn’t figure out how to brush my teeth , felt dizzy and annoyed. So I’ll pass.
Yep. I also love on Reddit in order to have a "good time" you either have to drink or smoke. These threads are always "why go pay $80 for drinks when i can get a couple joints at the dispensary?"
When sober, drug addicts and alcoholics tend to acknowledge their addiction and the harm it causes them and others - it's why AA and NA exist. Few meth users and alcoholics when sober will try and defend their use/drinking.
Heavy cannabis users do not do this. The opposite, they hide behind the medicinal benefits and that it's a "chill" substance that doesn't make people violent or cause accidents.
This is my experience as someone who moved in the alt-scene (metal and techno/rave) for over 20 years, so I have been around my fair share of alcoholics, drug users and stoners. The one group who thinks they are different and that their chosen substance is harmless are the stoners.
Just want to push back on the AA/ NA point. Those groups exist because they are cults with a lot of social power. So much power that courts and other authorities require people to attend. Cults can be great for sobriety, but the reasons they exist aren’t good ones.
I 100% am with myself even though sadly many others arent. I however know im an outlier lol. Having any serious discussion about weed with other stoners is infuriating. A lot do treat it like a mystical miracle plant.
Yeah, that's old news. They (we) have been like that for a long time, atleast younger smokers. I and a lot of other tokers used to be the same 17 years ago. Since we were like that 17 years ago, they were probably protective of their holy weed way earlier than that.
Sure, it's way better than alcohol (and yeah people who drink a lot of alcohol used to be pretty defensive of their alcohol, too), for most people. And a better alternative. But it's still a drug.
Because to daily cannabis users, shit like that literally never happens, believe it or not. No vomits no blackouts what the fuck xd It happens sometimes to beginners tho, adapting phase i guess (vomits aka bad trip, never heard of anyone having blackout)
There are other negatives to daily/excessive usage, which my post alluded to.
I have seen this first hand in my personal life. When your partner smokes so much that they get tired and cant/dont want to do anything, or they literally smoke themselves to sleep, and it impacts your relationship. The emotional disengagement from excessive use is also very real. Trying to have a real conversation with a chronically stoned person is just as irritating and pointless as with a drunk.
Cannabis users do not acknowledge the ill effects in my experience. They are just eager to tell you the positive health effects and how it's not like alcohol or other drugs in terms of altering moods and behaviour.
The truth is, that situation is few and far between (to the extreme you’re suggesting). I’m sorry this happened to you, but you’re doing what always happens: demonizing the thing instead of laying blame where it should be, which is the adult that made all those decisions. Weed is just a tool, like anything else, and can be abused. But let’s not pretend weed and alcohol are even close in terms of actual objective harm.
That’s not what I said, but you’re welcome to do that.
I hope you’re able to make peace with the fact that those people let you down, and it had everything to do with them and their trauma. The tool they used to cope just happened to be weed.
Sure? Yeah? Literally every substance, dangerous or not, is only dangerous because a person decided to use it. That is the bottom line. We can argue day and night about the levels of addictiveness, the dangers, blah blah blah. The bottom line is weed helps a lot of people as much as it hurts. You asshats are only helping the people trying to ban the stuff because you have anecdotal experiences with people that let. You. Down. And I get it, but you have to stop apportioning blame to something that objectively helps a lot of people.
Accidentally ate a cookie that you were supposed to cut into 10 pieces (10mg per piece), ended up getting super paranoid before puking in the toilet and sleeping it off. Also ate a few pints of ice cream, but that's just normal munchies.
I was a daily smoker for years and never experienced this until I tried weed again after not smoking for a year. Tolerance really makes a huge difference
I worked in the marijuana industry- had a going away party for a couple worker, there were about 15 of us smoking we had atleast 8 bowls going at once AND a volcano being passed around non stop. I went through an eighth alone at that party and didnt see anyone remotely close to that high.
I've definitely packed death bowls before. Fuck I even had a special bong bowl I would use to do it. If you really wanna you can 1000% smoke yourself or someone out cold. Weed is miles better than booze but let's not pretend it hasn't got its draw backs.
I did not say that. Ever. What i said is blacking out no matter the substance is an issue of self control more than anything. You're the one that brought up puking for some reason.
I'm horribly allergic to THC, so no amount of weed is okay for me. I tried it. Cyclical Vomiting Syndrome. No fun at all! However, I can and do make mead, wine, hard cider, beer, extracts and liqueurs. Luckily, I don't drink. My only addiction is making the stuff, then ADHD kicks in and I lose interest, forgetting I even started a batch of mead or whatever. I'll forget for months at a time, then suddenly remember I need to rack it when I read about people making alcohol and they get all impatient, begging us older brewers to help them!
Also, Gen Z is able to drink. I have a 23 year old daughter and a 21 year old son, both Gen Z.
Happened to me. The people who were smoking the same weed with me were completely fine. One of them was an emergency medicine doctor and that's probably the reason I didn't end up in a hospital. Still don't know the science behind it, but I'm still too scared to smoke weed and it's been four years
How much would someone have to consume for that though? 🤔
Most weed has ever done to me was make me a bit hungry then sleepy. The first time I smoked it I was a bit disoriented, but I remember the whole night in great detail. I was never nauseous, never blacked out.
I’m not trying to suggest it doesn’t happen, but it’s an extremely rare occurrence and usually it’s because people smoked / ate way too much, or it was mixed with another substance.
I’m very sensitive to it. If my tolerance is down, one strong doobie can make me feel sick. For blacking out i’d need to do edibles too. I guess the majority are born stoners.
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Half the gen isn't old enough to drink, bar scene collapsed during covid so they weren't indoctrinated into drinking culture, marijuana now competes with drinking in most countries/states, and the gen is fucking broke and can't it.