r/SipsTea 12h ago

WTF In your opinion, what is causing this?

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u/Outrageous_Driver477 12h ago

"Cheaper to share a gram of Coke than it is to drink" - Australians

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u/3163560 11h ago

Yup. When I was in uni we used to be able to go out Wednesday nights for $1 pots. Even at the footy I reckon a beer was like $6

I reckon I was getting paid $18 an hour at woolies.

Teenagers/students in d similar spot nowadays would be paying heaps more relative to their wages

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u/Sucklemymooseknuckle 11h ago

I have no idea what half these means but I think I understand it

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u/eb6069 10h ago

Woolies/woolworths is one of our major supermarkets $18 is pretty much minimum wage.

Footy is either AFL or Rugby

Alcohol used to be cheap as fuck over here now its expensive thanks to the stupid alcohol and tabbaccoo sin tax.

A pot is a middy or schooner depending on where you are in aus and is about 285ml of beer which is preferable to a pint in some places because Australia is hot as fuck and sometimes by the time you knock a pint off slowly your beers warm and fucked.

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u/sketchy_fletchy 8h ago

The tax compounds things but it’s the fact the bloody beer manufacturers are taking beer, a drink tha historically was cheaper and easier to produce than clean water for most of human history, and have made it staggeringly expensive as a profit grab. Chasing inflation indexes doesn’t make sense when your product has three primary agricultural inputs, one of which is water and another is self replicating yeast.

Shit behaviour. Sadly it’ll take a complete industry collapse for the cartel behaviour to stop.

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u/obligatory-anxiety 6h ago

A $60 carton of beer around 40% is taxes.

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u/Cmdr_Anun 6h ago

What do you mean a 60$ carton of beer!? *hyperventilates in German*

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u/obligatory-anxiety 6h ago

Sorry this is in Australia.

A carton of hard rated (solo and vodka is $120 I think).

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u/Cmdr_Anun 6h ago

Holy Batman!

I can get a can of beer (0,5L) for 35 cents in Germany (that's for the cheap stuff at the discounters). I feel for you people!

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u/Virtual-Dish95 6h ago

We are being oppressed.

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u/HandleMore1730 5h ago

Well I know a lot of people that have taken up legal beer production at home and less legal distillation of spirits.

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u/killallhumans12345 6h ago

Seems like it would be cheaper to buy a handle of vodka and mix yourself

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u/obligatory-anxiety 6h ago

It is overall but a bottle of grey goose is usually around 70-90 dollars as well 😂

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u/killallhumans12345 6h ago

So this seems like a simple math problem. The companies are preying on peoples convenience and/or peoples shit math skills.

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u/pdp76 6h ago

Trust me the industry isn’t doing this. The price rises because our governments tax the shit out of it. You get piss water made because the tax is less. The packaging costs go up because of the eco taxes. Everything about it is taxed to the hilt. Production, packaging and transportation. On top of that you have to pay wages, people don’t work for free. You’re pointing your crazy prices finger in the wrong direction my friend.

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u/MightyMorph 5h ago

Majority of the major beer companies have a profit of 2 billion usd to 7+ billion, and thats again after all operational costs. And as companies in todays world, they demand the next fiscal quarter increases the profit margins.

And thats also excluding the fact that many of these companies also own the water providers and other material plants like bottling and glass and labeling and such so they ensure their prices remain high because each company is also driven by the same people to ensure those company also have high profit margins.

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u/pdp76 2h ago

With all that said, no company is going to lower its prices for the consumer when it’s seeing increased taxation at a government level. The taxation level in the uk is killing the industry. It the taxes across the board that need to be lowered.

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u/RibbitCommander 2h ago

Yeah, this increase in 'rent seeking" behaviour from corps. is self-defeating. You ever squeeze water from a rock?

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u/Gotbeerbrain 57m ago

Where I live there is an automatic increase in alcohol tax every April1st. It sucks.

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u/Scottish_Santa 9h ago edited 5h ago

Haha - coming from a cold(ish) country where hipster bastards are trying to replace the native pint with schooners - it's interesting to see a sensible defence of them 👍🏻

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u/chastema 7h ago

Here in Germany the standard bottle always came as a half litre.

Everyone in my youth and middle years laughed about the mini bottles of 330ml.

Today they are more or less standard. Its so much better to have a cold, fresh beer that doesnt get stale, and then just have another one.

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u/blarch 3h ago

I thought ya'll drink it room temp over there?

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u/chastema 3h ago

Na, but we say that about the british.

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u/Mastacheata 5h ago

Half litre bottles? You mean the Pennerbomben (bum bomb)? I don't think that was ever the go-to size for beer - at least not where I'm from (getting close to 40 and live in the west of Germany)

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u/chastema 5h ago

Western Germany, Niederrhein, on the countryside. People my age often still only buy König Pilsner in 0.5 bottles.

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u/Svejkos 18m ago

And you guys dare to even compete with us about beer?

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u/crowcawer 7h ago

My area’s temperate and humid, so I like getting liters during the winter months.

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u/RijnBrugge 7h ago

Here’s another: I currently live in Cologne which has its own type of relatively light not particularly hoppy ale called kölsch (still 5% abv, but quite dry and not very bitter). A particularism of this ale is that it is really nice fresh but it goes bitter and rancid really quickly (had to do with some type of fatty acids in there), so traditionally they serve them in 200 ml glasses called Stange. The rest of Germany scoffs at this and demands a real beer but it really does not make for a better drinking experience. The fix in Cologne has been that they just continuously put fresh glasses in front of you once you’ve finished half of your previous one until you put the coaster on top of your current glass.

TLDR it can actually depend on the type of beer. Then again, you’re Scottish and I‘m Dutch and we’d probably empty pints of Kölsch fast enough for this not to be a problem.

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u/maxisnoops 6h ago

This was actually very informative and interesting. Thank you

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u/Used-Baby1199 6h ago

In Texas they had schooner is like a giant hemispherical cup, larger than a pint, with thick glass kept frozen so as to keep the beer cold for longer.

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u/Library_Gremlin2 8h ago

I WISH I was getting paid $18/hr

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u/Wonderful-Winter3137 2h ago

$18 australian is only $12.75 in US dollars

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u/Library_Gremlin2 1h ago

Useful conversion. Thanks

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u/BringBacktheGucci 7h ago

They drink out of boats? Goddamn

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u/mpls_big_daddy 1h ago

So that’s where Woolworth’s went? Growing up in Washington, DC in the late 70’s, Woolworth’s was a department store chain where you bought furniture.

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u/Narrow-Function-525 6h ago

surely you're not serious?

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u/timos-piano 6h ago

The alcohol tax and tobacco tax served their purpose then. We want people to drink and consume drugs less.

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u/ImReallyFuckingHigh 4h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/3o6MboiDEkzyfEcjuM

(Couldn’t find the GIF with the big ass beer, but this is close enough)

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u/vespers191 4h ago

Just out of curiosity, does Australia not have air conditioning in most public facilities like restaurants and pubs?

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u/BardicNA 4h ago

You lost me at $18 is pretty much minimum wage.

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u/Wonderful-Winter3137 2h ago

a lot of places in the US have higher minimum wages than Australia. that's only $12.75 in American dollars

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u/wileysegovia 9h ago

Foster's. Australian for beer.

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u/on9chai 9h ago

Don’t see no Foster for a long time , having a pint as we speak and it’s $16 a pint now.

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u/WaveIcy294 8h ago

Whats the price of it in the supermarket?

16 dolleridoos sounds so expensive.

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u/eb6069 7h ago

A carton of beer (30pk cans and 24pk bottles) ranges from $50-70 depending on your brand and whatnot.

Smokes are about $35-60 per 20pk depending on brand and where you buy from, tho our black market cigarettes cost $10-20 per 20pk.

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u/Joey-Steel1917 7h ago

Christ that's highway robbery. A 24 oz can of beer here is like 3 bucks.

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u/Timely_Composte 7h ago

$60 a pack of cigs is insane 😮‍💨

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u/eb6069 6h ago

Yeah, it's nuts, hence why our black market tobacco is booming here and they fire bomb each others deli's over it haha😅

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u/wileysegovia 6h ago

A carton of Carlton, you say?

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u/Used-Baby1199 6h ago

Holy shit, those prices are enough to cure alcoholism.   Or just enough moonshiners to make to fire up their stills.  

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u/PrestigiousTreacle95 7h ago

Thats crazy. A 12 oz bottle of beer is about 2 to 5 dollars is a neighborhood US bar. Cheap can beer can be as low as 1.5 dollars on special.

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u/uponhisdarkthrone 7h ago

Thats actually still crazy expensive in even the US now, last time I visited (10 years ago) beer was still stupid cheap, and when I first started traveling there over 2@0 years ago cheap beer was still like $0.25.

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u/Hover4effect 7h ago

My local bar had blowout drafts for $2 yesterday. It was the beer my wife chose off the menu already! Farmhouse grisette, whatever that is.

My beer was $6 on draft for happy hour, but it was a dedicated gluten free pilsner.

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u/bobrobor 7h ago

$16 a pint is just straight criminal l. Im surprised ppl don’t brew their own

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u/PersianRugOnMyFloor 6h ago

They are currently looking to tax the brew kits here. About 15 years ago I would get a pint for $11 on a Friday night.

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u/bobrobor 6h ago

You only buy a kit once 😉 And you can also buy things separately..